Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works well and is under say $60?

For $60 you can't go wrong with the TM Pro Digital 2. "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly > successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a > wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing > prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most > mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or > so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times > by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) > > The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with > brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't > need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works > well and is under say $60? >

That is strange. For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis Xterminator gamepad. I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup. Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad. But I want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the wheel. It's more fun. I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel. Got it for $69CAN after rebate. That's like $45-50US. The Act Labs RS looks good. And you can buy the wicked shifter for it too. I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the MS. Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and you're set. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:13:37 -0600, Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing >prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) > >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works >well and is under say $60?

Oh yes you do.... and get one with proper pedals too. Jan. ;-) =--- Destroy wrote... > I don't need or want force feedback. <snip>

Yes you do! Let me tell you my little FF story with N4. With the TM NasPro Digital2 I was running 182's and 183's with the setup off of precision-racing.com. I said, God only knows how the guys at that site could run 185 there. Well, I decided to put on my Logitech Wingman Formula Force USB wheel and I went out with the same setup and ran a 185 on lap 3. LOL! Then I said, let's go to the garage and I might can get a little more out of it seeing it was a little loose for me. Well, I went into the garage and come to find out I was running the default setup that came with the demo. LOL! Get FF! If you HAVE to buy a wheel for less than $60 you should go with the TM Nascar Pro Digital 2. Love it for the older games but not GPL and definitelty not for N4 now! Phillip Malphrus, Jr. "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I don't need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel thatworks > well and is under say $60? >

I just replaced my aging TM wheel with a Logitech Wingman Formula GP (non-FF) that I bought at Office Depot for $50. Works great! Todd -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Todd Walker Nikon Coolpix 950 picture pages: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=184230&Auth=false Email: [email hidden] Homepage: http://twalker.d2g.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly > successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a > wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing > prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most > mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or > so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times > by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) > > The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with > brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't > need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works > well and is under say $60? >

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:13:37 -0600, Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing >prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) > >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works >well and is under say $60? >

I've been very happy with my Logitech Wingman Formula (non-FF, I believe it has a new name now but is essentially the same - it's the yellow one, not red). Having never used another wheel I don't know how it compares to the high end models, but I can't afford them and this thing suits me just fine. DG

If u use a gamepad u should just use the keyboard. Both are digital and i feel they are useless. Luke -=87=- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> That is strange. For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis > Xterminator gamepad. I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup. > Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad. But I > want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the > wheel. It's more fun. > > I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel. Got it for $69CAN after rebate. > That's like $45-50US. The Act Labs RS looks good. And you can buy > the wicked shifter for it too. I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster > Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the > MS. Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and > you're set. > > On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:13:37 -0600, Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly > >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a > >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing > >prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most > >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or > >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times > >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) > > > >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with > >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't > >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works > >well and is under say $60? >

Not the Gravis Xterminator. It has an analog joystick and a few more analog buttons that can be used for gas and brake. It's got tons of digital buttons and a digital directional pad too. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:36:57 +1000, "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>If u use a gamepad u should just use the keyboard. Both are digital and i >feel they are useless. > >Luke >-=87=- ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> That is strange. For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis >> Xterminator gamepad. I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup. >> Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad. But I >> want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the >> wheel. It's more fun. >> >> I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel. Got it for $69CAN after rebate. >> That's like $45-50US. The Act Labs RS looks good. And you can buy >> the wicked shifter for it too. I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster >> Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the >> MS. Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and >> you're set. >> >> On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:13:37 -0600, Destroy <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly >> >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a >> >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing >> >prot�g�s out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most >> >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or >> >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times >> >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :) >> > >> >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with >> >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own. I don't >> >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works >> >well and is under say $60? >> >