ZoneAlarm and VROC

Hi all, Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having ZoneAlarm running? I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of it. Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I plan to run a lot of races from now on. Any advice?? PH

PH, I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. You could try a couple of other products : Sygate is used quite a lot and is free, not sure how good it is though. Also, if you are really serios about having a good firewall, active at all times there is lockdown2000 (www.lockdown2000.com) It works fine with VROC/GPL, there is a 30-day trial but after that it costs (about $100 I think), Also, you could make your system safe by making sure you have no Trojans, no Netbious/File Sharing etc. Go here : http://grc.com/default.htm for a fuller explanation and to run some security tests. Maxx On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:44:33 +0000, Hoops74 <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi all, >Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having >ZoneAlarm running? > >I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to >race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed >and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to >completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of >it. > >Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and >it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little >worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I >plan to run a lot of races from now on. > >Any advice?? > >PH

Maxx wrote: > > PH, > > I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've > seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. I've had no problems with VROC+GPL and ZoneAlarm. You just need to allow VROC and GPL to connect to internet (and act as a server) and it works just fine. The first time I tried it hang up, but then GPL appeared in ZoneAlarm programs-view and I could grant access for it. Best regards, Lasse

Hi, i got problem earlier with Nascar 3, even if i allow N3 in Zone Alarm, it was still freezing my system. The problem occuring is that N3 and some other game want to be on top of the internet activity and if you have Zone Alarm set also to be on top on the internet activity as well, you just have cause the freezing problem. So i have remove the check in the option box (On top during internet activity) of Zone Alarm and everything is fine now. But you must still configure N3 first, manually. You can fine the option under configure menu. Bye Coco Hoops74 wrote:

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> Hi all, > Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > ZoneAlarm running? > > I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to > race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed > and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to > completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of > it. > > Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and > it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little > worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I > plan to run a lot of races from now on. > > Any advice?? > > PH

I used ZoneAlarm and VROC/GPL for months and then I installed a Voodoo2, from that point on (even after the voodoo2 left) I could not use the two togather. I went into ZoneAlarm and told it GPL/VROC had all rights to the internet. The problem is not connecting, it is after you have done a few laps and hit ESC to exit the practice or race, that is when it would lock solid. I have since removed ZoneAlarm and I am now using a Linksys Router. SLG Lasse Hero <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Maxx wrote: >> >> PH, >> >> I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've >> seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. > >I've had no problems with VROC+GPL and ZoneAlarm. You just need to allow >VROC and GPL to connect to internet (and act as a server) and it works >just fine. > >The first time I tried it hang up, but then GPL appeared in ZoneAlarm >programs-view and I could grant access for it. > >Best regards, > >Lasse

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I use Tiny personal Firewall. http://www.tinysoftware.com/pwall.php It's a bit "hardcore" but very configurable. No problems with GPL/WinVROC. /Jens Hoops74 wrote:

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> Hi all, > Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > ZoneAlarm running? > > I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to > race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed > and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to > completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of > it. > > Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and > it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little > worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I > plan to run a lot of races from now on. > > Any advice?? > > PH

Thanks Jens, I may try uot Tinys offering if I can't solve this in the next day or 2. PH On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:35:22 +0100, "Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I use Tiny personal Firewall. > >http://www.tinysoftware.com/pwall.php > >It's a bit "hardcore" but very configurable. No problems with GPL/WinVROC. > >/Jens > >Hoops74 wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having >> ZoneAlarm running? >> >> I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to >> race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed >> and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to >> completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of >> it. >> >> Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and >> it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little >> worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I >> plan to run a lot of races from now on. >> >> Any advice?? >> >> PH

[email hidden] (Maxx) wrote in <[email hidden]>: I have just made GPL+VROC+ZA working. Though there are few traps I've skillfully found (by stepping in them:>): Trap #1: When GPL tries to connect outside first time, ZA pops-up a message box, but the screen is in exclusive use, so everything is frozen (I guess ZA waits for answer and GPL waits for connection). I've solved it by temporary switching GPL to software mode and disabling full screen: [ Rasterizer ] fullScreen = 0 Then connect, this time ZA is able to pop-up their message, confirm connection and set it to remember the answer. Now you can go back to 3D in GPL. Trap #2. You need to have "On to during internet activity" disabled in ZA, otherwise similar problem as in trap #1. Trap #3. Uncheck "show alert popup window" in ZA, otherwise everything get frozen when some alert will be produced. Trap #4. Automatic lock in ZA need to be disabled. (This one is my guess:>) Trap #5. Make sure that you don't have any other program running in background that could make ZA ask you to confirm connection. So you need to set 'remember' option for this kind of programs (whether the answer is 'yes' or 'no'). Alex.

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>PH, > >I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've >seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. > >You could try a couple of other products : Sygate is used quite >a lot and is free, not sure how good it is though. Also, if you >are really serios about having a good firewall, active at >all times there is lockdown2000 (www.lockdown2000.com) >It works fine with VROC/GPL, there is a 30-day trial but >after that it costs (about $100 I think), > >Also, you could make your system safe by making sure >you have no Trojans, no Netbious/File Sharing etc. > >Go here : http://grc.com/default.htm for a fuller explanation >and to run some security tests. > >Maxx > >On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:44:33 +0000, Hoops74 <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Hi all, >>Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having >>ZoneAlarm running? >> >>I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to >>race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed >>and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to >>completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of >>it. >> >>Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and >>it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little >>worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I >>plan to run a lot of races from now on. >> >>Any advice?? >> >>PH >

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> > Hi all, > Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > ZoneAlarm running? > > I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to > race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed > and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to > completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of > it. > > Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and > it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little > worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I > plan to run a lot of races from now on. > > Any advice?? > > PH

At the intermediate or high security level, ZA is guaranteed to give you grief. I've had some luck running it at the lowest level. Be sure to turn off logging and the like. Blackice worked great for me, so long as you disable the trace-back, logging, etc. stuff. Trouble is that it isn't a freebie... Still worth it, IMO. I can even host with BlackIce in the background - no apparent problems. Haven't tried anything else.... Another option is to disable all the network services that may be bound to your Network adaptor. This leaves your system fairly safe, although I'm sure Bill left a 'few' backdoors and loopholes open.... http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/securnet.htm#Not http://www.dslreports.com/ also has lots of good info. -Greg ============ Anti-Spam measures have been taken! Remove duplicate letters to reply.

"Hoops74" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > ZoneAlarm running? I did post a 4 page article about firewalls and running sims, you may find some info there...I noticed no one mentioned that, so I'm going to guess no one saw it. It's at The Pits in the hardware section... Do NOT use Lockdown 2000, there's a long story that goes with it, but suffice it to say, it's not even worth your time as a firewall... Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� SECURITY CONSULTANT The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

I use an early version of Guard Dog, by CyberMedia. It works fine with GPL and VROC, and seems to be effective, per the security tests at the site listed below. One caveat: Only use Version 1.x (I got it at a local computer show for $10). Later versions have a lot of other useless features that have locked up my system. Maxx wrote:

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> PH, > > I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've > seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. > > You could try a couple of other products : Sygate is used quite > a lot and is free, not sure how good it is though. Also, if you > are really serios about having a good firewall, active at > all times there is lockdown2000 (www.lockdown2000.com) > It works fine with VROC/GPL, there is a 30-day trial but > after that it costs (about $100 I think), > > Also, you could make your system safe by making sure > you have no Trojans, no Netbious/File Sharing etc. > > Go here : http://grc.com/default.htm for a fuller explanation > and to run some security tests. > > Maxx > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:44:33 +0000, Hoops74 <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Hi all, > >Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > >ZoneAlarm running? > > > >I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to > >race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed > >and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to > >completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of > >it. > > > >Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and > >it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little > >worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I > >plan to run a lot of races from now on. > > > >Any advice?? > > > >PH

-- Bert

Can't get this to work. GPL is set to software mode. BTW to do that you edit that in the app.ini file and change Last Used Rasterizer to softdll.dll. Also in core.ini do the fullscreen=0 change. Anyway I tried VROC and the ZA message box would not pop up. Then used Alt-Tab and screen would not change. My question is, should all the 5 steps below be done before trying VROC? Or should the 5 steps be done in sequence. Example... do Trap #1, start VROC, and then try to get the ZA pop up message. If that's right then I should see the ZA pop up when I Alt-Tab. But I don't. That's where things are. If no changes suggested then the solution doesn't work for me. Alex <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (Maxx) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > I have just made GPL+VROC+ZA working. Though there are > few traps I've skillfully found (by stepping in them:>): > > Trap #1: When GPL tries to connect outside first time, > ZA pops-up a message box, but the screen is in exclusive > use, so everything is frozen (I guess ZA waits for answer > and GPL waits for connection). I've solved it by > temporary switching GPL to software mode and disabling > full screen: > [ Rasterizer ] > fullScreen = 0 > Then connect, this time ZA is able to pop-up their message, > confirm connection and set it to remember the answer. > Now you can go back to 3D in GPL. > > Trap #2. You need to have "On to during internet activity" > disabled in ZA, otherwise similar problem as in trap #1. > > Trap #3. Uncheck "show alert popup window" in ZA, otherwise > everything get frozen when some alert will be produced. > > Trap #4. Automatic lock in ZA need to be disabled. > (This one is my guess:>) > > Trap #5. Make sure that you don't have any other program > running in background that could make ZA ask you to > confirm connection. So you need to set 'remember' option > for this kind of programs (whether the answer is 'yes' or 'no'). > > Alex. > > >PH, > > > >I gave up on trying to run the two together a while ago and I've > >seen lots of posts from others who have tried and failed. > > > >You could try a couple of other products : Sygate is used quite > >a lot and is free, not sure how good it is though. Also, if you > >are really serios about having a good firewall, active at > >all times there is lockdown2000 (www.lockdown2000.com) > >It works fine with VROC/GPL, there is a 30-day trial but > >after that it costs (about $100 I think), > > > >Also, you could make your system safe by making sure > >you have no Trojans, no Netbious/File Sharing etc. > > > >Go here : http://grc.com/default.htm for a fuller explanation > >and to run some security tests. > > > >Maxx > > > >On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:44:33 +0000, Hoops74 <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > > > >>Hi all, > >>Anybody here managed to take part in races on VROC whilst having > >>ZoneAlarm running? > >> > >>I have had ZoneAlarm since getting my ADSL connection and tried to > >>race on VROC this morning for the first time since having it installed > >>and my system froze up at the connection screen in GPL. I had to > >>completely re-boot as even the ol' ctrl-alt-del wouldn't get me out of > >>it. > >> > >>Tried running a race on VROC afterwards without ZoneAlarm running and > >>it was perfect, although I was far from that :O(. I am just a little > >>worried about leaving my connection open like that, especially as I > >>plan to run a lot of races from now on. > >> > >>Any advice?? > >> > >>PH > > >

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>Can't get this to work. GPL is set to software mode. BTW to do that you >edit that in the app.ini file and change Last Used Rasterizer to >softdll.dll. Also in core.ini do the fullscreen=0 change. Anyway I tried >VROC and the ZA message box would not pop up. Then used Alt-Tab and >screen would not change. My question is, should all the 5 steps below be > done before trying VROC? Or should the 5 steps be done in sequence. >Example... do Trap #1, start VROC, and then try to get the ZA pop up >message. If that's right then I should see the ZA pop up when I Alt-Tab. >But I don't. That's where things are. If no changes suggested then the >solution doesn't work for me.

I encountered these problems while trying to make VROC work, but I guess #2-5 can be done before VROC. Conecrinng #1 I set software mode, and fullscreen=0 then went into multiplayer mode and tried to host the race (without VROC). ZA pop-up appeared and I answered yes and remember the answer. (I didn't need alt-tab) Alex (alexti)