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IDEA FOR A NEW SIM

20 posts by 13 people · 18 Jan 2001 07:17 UTC - 20 Jan 2001 18:26 UTC

Proposal for a modern 4D Sports Driving-style stunt sim

Game developer Sebastien Tixier suggested a modern version of 4D Sports Driving (Stunts) with realistic physics and a track editor. Others reminisced about Stunts, Stunt Car Racer and Whiplash/Fatal Racing and shared abandonware sites, and Ruud van Gaal said he planned a Stunt Car Racer remake with his Racer engine.

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Sebastien Tixier 18 Jan 2001 07:17 UTC#209127
Hi all ! Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : 4D Sports Driving. For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on amiga - ) . In the tracks there were stunts as looping, corscrew ( big pipe were you had to pass on roof of pipe to go through it ), banked jump, banked turns, bridges, spiral ramp, etc... Well, i imagine a game like this, with GPL car physics, and today 3D graphics. WAOW ! Could be very fun AND interesting to drive, go through the banked jump at the right speed to land right on the other side of the banked jump, not too far because you'll crash on the road ( too much vertical speed) and not to short . And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! .... well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) what do you think about this ? -- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -37.10 http://magicfr.multimania.com
S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in <[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Hi all ! > >well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) > > >what do you think about this ? >
It would be a good idea! I'm currently downloading 4D sports driving! - brian
Quoted text (8 lines)>-- >Seb >Game Developer >GPLRank -37.10 >http://magicfr.multimania.com > > >
I would buy it...include the track editor and car editor and I will take two... btgoss "S�bastien Tixier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (39 lines)> Hi all ! > > Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC > 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : > > 4D Sports Driving. > > For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you > had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game > Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on > amiga - ) . > In the tracks there were stunts as looping, corscrew ( big pipe were you > had to pass on roof of pipe to go through it ), banked jump, banked > turns, bridges, spiral ramp, etc... > > Well, i imagine a game like this, with GPL car physics, and today 3D > graphics. WAOW ! > > Could be very fun AND interesting to drive, go through the banked jump > at the right speed to land right on the other side of the banked jump, > not too far because you'll crash on the road ( too much vertical speed) > and not to short . > > And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! > > .... > > well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) > > > what do you think about this ? > > -- > Seb > Game Developer > GPLRank -37.10 > http://magicfr.multimania.com > >
!!!!! Where ? I've it on original 5"1/4 disks so i can't play it anymore ! Can you give the web site ? tks in advance ! RenderedBrian wrote:
Quoted text (24 lines)> S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > >Hi all ! > > > >well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) > > > > > >what do you think about this ? > > > > It would be a good idea! I'm currently downloading 4D sports driving! > > - > brian > > >-- > >Seb > >Game Developer > >GPLRank -37.10 > >http://magicfr.multimania.com > > > > > >
-- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -37.10 http://magicfr.multimania.com
hmmmm.... Well, i think i'm gonna put a petition on my web site, maybe if there is lot of sign my company would like to develop it ! Anyway, i'm going to develop something .... I will post about this on ras... CYA btgoss wrote:
Quoted text (45 lines)> I would buy it...include the track editor and car editor and I will take > two... > btgoss > > "S�bastien Tixier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all ! > > > > Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC > > 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : > > > > 4D Sports Driving. > > > > For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you > > had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game > > Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on > > amiga - ) . > > In the tracks there were stunts as looping, corscrew ( big pipe were you > > had to pass on roof of pipe to go through it ), banked jump, banked > > turns, bridges, spiral ramp, etc... > > > > Well, i imagine a game like this, with GPL car physics, and today 3D > > graphics. WAOW ! > > > > Could be very fun AND interesting to drive, go through the banked jump > > at the right speed to land right on the other side of the banked jump, > > not too far because you'll crash on the road ( too much vertical speed) > > and not to short . > > > > And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! > > > > .... > > > > well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) > > > > > > what do you think about this ? > > > > -- > > Seb > > Game Developer > > GPLRank -37.10 > > http://magicfr.multimania.com > > > >
-- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -37.10 http://magicfr.multimania.com
There's a list of sites that carry various abandonware titles at http://www.abandongames.com. 4D Sports Driving is definitely listed here. This site is a good one to bookmark as well. Have fun. S�bastien Tixier wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > It would be a good idea! I'm currently downloading 4D sports driving! > > It's interesting me ! > > I 've the Original 5"1/4 disks so i can't play it anymore :o( > > Could you give me the link please ? > > tks in advance > > -- > Seb > Game Developer > GPLRank -37.10 > http://magicfr.multimania.com
-- Chuck Kandler A man is no less a Slave just because he is allowed to choose a new Master every four years. Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org
S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Hi all ! > > Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC > 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : > > 4D Sports Driving. > > For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you > had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game > Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on > amiga - ) .
Stunt Driver! I still have that somewhere. It was soo cool back then, the car would lean when taking a corner and the shaker hood scoop would really shake!
And there was null-modem support , but with bugs, because after a few minutes, the 2 PCs was de-synchronised and only 1 PC could see both cars ! and Stunt Driver had some cool stunts that 4d had not , like Corscrew jump, 2 mid corscrew and a river beetween them, you'll have to land on the other side of the corscrew with the car upside down ... thrill !! :o) Moving bridge ... like those on Midtown madness. and more .... "Izzy..." a �crit :
Quoted text (17 lines)> S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all ! > > > > Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC > > 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : > > > > 4D Sports Driving. > > > > For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you > > had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game > > Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on > > amiga - ) . > > Stunt Driver! I still have that somewhere. It was soo cool back then, > the car would lean when taking a corner and the shaker hood scoop would > really shake!
-- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -37.10 http://magicfr.multimania.com
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:17:45 +0100, S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote: ... >In the tracks there were stunts as looping, corscrew ( big pipe were you >had to pass on roof of pipe to go through it ), banked jump, banked >turns, bridges, spiral ramp, etc... > >Well, i imagine a game like this, with GPL car physics, and today 3D >graphics. WAOW ! Hm, yes, one of my first side-programs with the Racer engine would be a revision of Stunt Car Racer. Currently though it has the problem that GPL has with the Pants Ring. However, that is just a question of having the rays from the wheels take on the car orientation, and than you can create VRML tracks in which you can drive upside down (I have another nice idea to test for this; driving a F1 car upside down based on downforce alone, a fallen 'U' track). But that's still some time away, first some skiing. But quite fun. >Could be very fun AND interesting to drive, go through the banked jump >at the right speed to land right on the other side of the banked jump, >not too far because you'll crash on the road ( too much vertical speed) >and not to short . But very difficult probably with GPL physics! Anyway, would be too nice to skip. >And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! Just use 3D Studio Max. >what do you think about this ? Cool. :) Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Car simulation: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
>"S�bastien Tixier" <[email hidden]> wrote > I've it on original 5"1/4 disks so i can't play it anymore ! > Can you give the web site ? Do a websearch for "abandonware". Have fun ;-) (too many to list) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
speaking of these trick type games, have any of you guys played whiplash and/or know where I could get that game? I used to have it (came with some hardware I bought) but I have lost the game. It was a real fun game with some decent physics and decent AI to race against. JB "S�bastien Tixier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (39 lines)> Hi all ! > > Yesterday when ordering my stuffs, i found again my old PC ( Amstrad PC > 1512 ), and the games that i had with it... and particulary one : > > 4D Sports Driving. > > For the people who don't know the game, it was "sim" ( mean that you > had to brake to take turns and was in 3D ).It was like the arcarde game > Hard Drivin' or PC game Stunt Driver ( i don't mean Stunt Racer - on > amiga - ) . > In the tracks there were stunts as looping, corscrew ( big pipe were you > had to pass on roof of pipe to go through it ), banked jump, banked > turns, bridges, spiral ramp, etc... > > Well, i imagine a game like this, with GPL car physics, and today 3D > graphics. WAOW ! > > Could be very fun AND interesting to drive, go through the banked jump > at the right speed to land right on the other side of the banked jump, > not too far because you'll crash on the road ( too much vertical speed) > and not to short . > > And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! > > .... > > well, i think, i found an idea of game for my spare time :o) > > > what do you think about this ? > > -- > Seb > Game Developer > GPLRank -37.10 > http://magicfr.multimania.com > >
In article <[email hidden]>, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: >There's a list of sites that carry various abandonware titles at >http://www.abandongames.com. 4D Sports Driving is definitely listed >here. This site is a good one to bookmark as well. > >Have fun. > Great site - thanks! -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Whiplash was originally Fatal Racing from the UK. It was a fun head-to-head game at the time. I don't know where to find it (other than in my closet) but it might give you more options to check. Wonder if it's in abandonware sites? Jason. Wosco wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > speaking of these trick type games, have any of you guys played whiplash > and/or know where I could get that game? I used to have it (came with some > hardware I bought) but I have lost the game. It was a real fun game with > some decent physics and decent AI to race against. > > JB >
-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
First off I gota say idea does appeal to me even though I prefer more realistic type games (I too feel under the spell of Whiplash though...head-to-head was REALLY fun in that). But as far as the abandonware sites go...WOW!! I remember playing a bunch of those games on console year ago. Amazing how many Nintendo and Sega Genesis titles I recognized going through that list. Quite impressive these games are still around (other than at flea markets). Chris
In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> writes: >Whiplash was originally Fatal Racing from the UK. It was a fun >head-to-head game at the time. I don't know where to find it (other >than in my closet) but it might give you more options to check. Wonder >if it's in abandonware sites? Yes it is. I just saw Fatal Racing today, but I didn't know what it was... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
> But very difficult probably with GPL physics! Anyway, would be too > nice to skip. I don't think so !!! GPL is difficult not because the engine is very realistic BUT because the car were very difficult to drive fast. If you take normal cars with very realistic car physics it's really easy to drive !!!! I'm sur that A Subaru Impreza STI with GPL physics will be VERY easy to drive because the real car IS ! ( in fact the subaru is need more a rail train physics ;o))) ) > >And as the original 4D sport driving, it would have a track editor ! > > Just use 3D Studio Max. Good idea :o) -- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -37.10 http://magicfr.multimania.com
Yeah, Stunt Driver was great! My friend and I used to play together on a null-modem cable, or through the phone lines on our wickedly fast 2400/9600 baud modems. There was an editor for that as well, it took months before I discovered it. That really added to the fun. One really cool thing was, if you accelerated right away, then shifted into neutral (before it hit second gear, I think, it's been years), the thing would accelerate to 300 mph in about 5 seconds! I did that over the modem with my friend, who of course, freaked out. Memories :-) Todd Wasson --- Performance Simulations Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction Software http://PerformanceSimulations.Com
>Whiplash was originally Fatal Racing from the UK. It was a fun >head-to-head game at the time. I don't know where to find it (other >than in my closet) but it might give you more options to check. Wonder >if it's in abandonware sites? Yep, I got it off abandonware last summer. Great game. :) Especially with the codes. If anyone wants me to post the codes, just let me know. ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

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