GPL: 'F12' driving view.

I'm not sure if this is the correct term but it's how I refer to it....as if the eyeballs were located at about the same height as the peak of the roll bar, the mirrors and instruments don't show anything and the "situational awareness" is about a 300% improvement on the normal cockpit view. Is there any way to get the pit board displayed whilst driving in this view? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. ---------------------------

Yes. http://warpedracing.figc.net You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. -- Mika Takala [email hidden] ICQ UIN 14314015

Yes. http://warpedracing.figc.net You'll find some high***pit views for some cars in there. -- Mika Takala ICQ UIN 14314015

Thanks, Mika. I am actually using, in the Player.ini file, 'drivingView = 12' but in this view the lap board is not displayed. I was simply wondering if it was possible to display it when using this driverView setting, -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:94e4pm$is4$[email hidden]... > Yes. > http://warpedracing.figc.net > You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. > > -- > Mika Takala > [email hidden] > ICQ UIN 14314015 >

nope, that is not possible. I think someone (G.Smiley?) posted instructions how to change the driving view so that all mirrors and pitboards work, but I don't remember where it is. -- Mika Takala [email hidden] ICQ UIN 14314015 "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� news:[email hidden]... > Thanks, Mika. > > I am actually using, in the Player.ini file, 'drivingView = 12' but in this > view the lap board is not displayed. I was simply wondering if it was > possible to display it when using this driverView setting, > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:94e4pm$is4$[email hidden]... > > Yes. > > http://warpedracing.figc.net > > You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. > > > > -- > > Mika Takala > > [email hidden] > > ICQ UIN 14314015 > > > >

I'm not sure that's possible using the F12 view but you might try George Smiley's driving view editor to get a similar position, you will have to rely on the cockpit for information (gears, rpm's etc.) instead of the screen display that the F12 view implements. Here's the link: http://home.swbell.net/gmsmiley/ DN "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks, Mika. > > I am actually using, in the Player.ini file, 'drivingView = 12' but inthis

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> view the lap board is not displayed. I was simply wondering if it was > possible to display it when using this driverView setting, > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:94e4pm$is4$[email hidden]... > > Yes. > > http://warpedracing.figc.net > > You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. > > > > -- > > Mika Takala > > [email hidden] > > ICQ UIN 14314015 > > > >

Okay, Mika....no worries at all and thanks for your advice. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:94ep36$t86$[email hidden]... > nope, that is not possible. > > I think someone (G.Smiley?) posted instructions how to change the driving > view so that all mirrors and pitboards work, but I don't remember where it > is. > > -- > Mika Takala > [email hidden] > ICQ UIN 14314015 > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks, Mika. > > > > I am actually using, in the Player.ini file, 'drivingView = 12' but in > this > > view the lap board is not displayed. I was simply wondering if it was > > possible to display it when using this driverView setting, > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:94e4pm$is4$[email hidden]... > > > Yes. > > > http://warpedracing.figc.net > > > You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. > > > > > > -- > > > Mika Takala > > > [email hidden] > > > ICQ UIN 14314015 > > > > > > > >

Thanks for including that URL, David. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- David Noe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I1Fa6.236$[email hidden]... > I'm not sure that's possible using the F12 view but you might try George > Smiley's driving view editor to get a similar position, you will have to > rely on the cockpit for information (gears, rpm's etc.) instead of the > screen display that the F12 view implements. > Here's the link: > http://home.swbell.net/gmsmiley/ > > DN > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks, Mika. > > > > I am actually using, in the Player.ini file, 'drivingView = 12' but in > this > > view the lap board is not displayed. I was simply wondering if it was > > possible to display it when using this driverView setting, > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:94e4pm$is4$[email hidden]... > > > Yes. > > > http://warpedracing.figc.net > > > You'll find some high cockpit views for some cars in there. > > > > > > -- > > > Mika Takala > > > [email hidden] > > > ICQ UIN 14314015 > > > > > > > > >

Hi all Sorry.. I am slow... I am familiar with the F10 wiew, but F12 ? Please exsplain for me .. Stefan Zscharnack

Stefan, you just need to make a slight edit to your player.ini file. The following is an example...... [ Personal Information ] carNumber = 4 ; preferred car number driverNationality = 1 ; nationality of the driver driverRating = 1 ; driver rating drivingView = 12 ; driving view firstName = Jackie ; first name of the player helmetColor = 15 ; helmet color lastName = Stewart ; last name of the player lastTrackSelection = monza ; last track visited team = 1 ; team On the line 'drivingView', change the number to '12' (without the parenthesis). when you are in the game, if you hit the [F10] key, the view will immediately revert to the default setting. To get it back you'll have to edit the line in the player.ini file again. Oh...the file will be found in your \Players directory......there'll be one in each the folder for each driver you have created for yourself. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stefan Zscharnack <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QkIa6.14110$[email hidden]... > Hi all > Sorry.. I am slow... > I am familiar with the F10 wiew, but F12 ? > Please exsplain for me .. > Stefan Zscharnack > > >

>"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > Stefan, you just need to make a slight edit to your player.ini file. He was clearly wondering why you wrote "F12". Everybody knows you can edit the views, but there is no relation between the key "F12" and such thing. If you press it on the keyboard, it won't do a thing in GPL. That confused people, Bruce. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing your role of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows of my mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. I was simply trying to assist. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zFRa6.119762$n%[email hidden]... > >"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Stefan, you just need to make a slight edit to your player.ini file. > > > He was clearly wondering why you wrote "F12". Everybody knows you can edit > the views, but there is no relation between the key "F12" and such thing. > If you press it on the keyboard, it won't do a thing in GPL. That confused > people, Bruce. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > >

How do you guess that english is my seckond language ? :D (It could be my tird or fourth :) ) I was confused about the "F12", or the "F" . I know I can change the settings in Player.ini. But I di not remeber all the different nubers to put in. Do you "helpers" have a list ? Thank you all :) Stefan Zscharnack Todays Legends http://home.eunet.no/~stefan/racing/drivers.htm

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:53:27 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom >English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing your role >of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the >numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > >These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows of my >mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. > >Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. I was >simply trying to assist.

Annoying or what, when someone tries to correct you.. :) Andre

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>-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia. >--------------------------- > >ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:zFRa6.119762$n%[email hidden]... >> >"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote >> > Stefan, you just need to make a slight edit to your player.ini file. >> >> >> He was clearly wondering why you wrote "F12". Everybody knows you can >edit >> the views, but there is no relation between the key "F12" and such thing. >> If you press it on the keyboard, it won't do a thing in GPL. That >confused >> people, Bruce. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >> -- May the Downforce be with you... >> -- http://www.ymenard.com/ >> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how >> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

Perhaps in honor of Bruce's attempt to help, we should rename the view to FB. That way it in no way is associated with, and thereby considered a lesser view, of the F10 key. dave henrie "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing yourrole > of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > > These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows ofmy > mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. > > Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. Iwas > simply trying to assist. > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia.

LOL! Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > Perhaps in honor of Bruce's attempt to help, we should rename the view > to FB. > That way it in no way is associated with, and thereby considered a lesser > view, of the F10 key. > dave henrie > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > > English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing your > role > > of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > > numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > > > > These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows of > my > > mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. > > > > Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. I > was > > simply trying to assist. > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia.

Sorry for the confusion, Stefan. That is the only number that I know about....others may have a list of the different numbers. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stefan Zscharnack <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%BUa6.566$[email hidden]... > How do you guess that english is my seckond language ? :D > (It could be my tird or fourth :) ) > I was confused about the "F12", or the "F" . > I know I can change the settings in Player.ini. > But I di not remeber all the different nubers to put in. > Do you "helpers" have a list ? > Thank you all :) > > Stefan Zscharnack > > Todays Legends > http://home.eunet.no/~stefan/racing/drivers.htm > >

Depends *entirely* upon the manner in which it's done, Andre. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Annoying or what, when someone tries to correct you.. > :) >

LOL!!! Succinct, and dead on target, Dave! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uSWa6.297173$[email hidden]... > Perhaps in honor of Bruce's attempt to help, we should rename the view > to FB. > That way it in no way is associated with, and thereby considered a lesser > view, of the F10 key. > dave henrie

Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:53:27 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > >English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing yourrole > >of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > >numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > > > >These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows ofmy > >mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. > > > >Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. Iwas

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> >simply trying to assist. > > Annoying or what, when someone tries to correct you.. > :) > > Andre >

If I didn't know better , I'd swear that ymenard and Bruce were married judging by the way the're constantly bickering over language subtleties. :-) Andrew

>"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing yourrole > of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? Hey man relax Bruce, I was just stating that you wrote F12 in your subject header which might have confused some people. It wasn't harsh at all, actually it wasn't really compare to when you actually do such thing! Remember your failure with the "grill" situation. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Bruce... Francois, no longer sim races.......didn't he send you an email too? Frank told me a few weeks ago.... he now spends all of his time on newsgroups......looking for arguments and heated discussions. Its some kind of sexual thing or something.......I don't know? I'm just sorry we lost a good sim racer.....well, sort of a good sim racer! I actually didn't believe Frank when he wrote me. But then, last weekend my granddaughter was on the Internet, sniffing about in one of her Girl Scout newsgroups and found a girl talking about a new Girl Scout cookie being produced for next year's annual cookie drive. The ingredients for the new cookie were listed.....and my grand daughter said some person was arguing over the benefits of using "bleached flour" instead of "whole grain" flour and that she thought she recognized the name from something she saw on my computer a few nights earlier? I asked her what the person's name was.....she said: "Frank <the-ymenard-cookie-monster> Expert" She thought that was an awfully unusual name.....especially for someone acting so rude on her Girl Scout newsgroup! So, alas.....Frank was not fibbing when he wrote me of his decision! I understand he now has four desktop PC's and three "notebooks" on his desk....that way he can keep up his rude and pointless remarks on 6 newsgroups at the same time! My guess is, he has the money to buy those new computers now that he doesn't have to buy 4 or 5 new race controllers every week.....looking for the reason why everyone else is faster than he is in GPL. He always figured it was "an equipment issue".....you know? I'll know Frank has really flipped out.....if he ever tells me he's given up "collecting Star Wars dolls"......man, that would be the ultimate sacrifice, Frank! Don't Do It Man! We probably could all help Frank, if we'd just give him a good argument every day or two. Maybe he'd come back to sim racing eventually? Gosh, Frank...buddy........what can we do to help you through this "thing"........huh?????? Tom Pabst (...lol....) "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing yourrole > of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > > These, and many, many more, questions are tumbling through the windows ofmy > mind, Frank. Please help to relieve the confusion. > > Oh, and in the meantime, Stefan: if I confused you, my apology, sir. Iwas

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> simply trying to assist. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zFRa6.119762$n%[email hidden]... > > >"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Stefan, you just need to make a slight edit to your player.ini file. > > > > > > He was clearly wondering why you wrote "F12". Everybody knows you can > edit > > the views, but there is no relation between the key "F12" and such

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> > If you press it on the keyboard, it won't do a thing in GPL. That > confused > > people, Bruce. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise

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> > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > now spends all of his time on newsgroups... Hey, I appreciate this form of communications over the other parts of the Internet. It's a choice no? Btw did you wrote this just because I wrote a couple of words on you in Jacob's NG? > I'm just sorry we lost a > good sim racer.....well, sort of a good sim racer! LOL ;) I'm good, but I have my style. I have learned from the Villeneuve. Give my any car, any setup and I'll push it to the limit (and often past it). I'm spectacular to watch, but I know it's not the fastest way. It's my fastest way. I would be a good Rally driver ;) > I actually didn't believe Frank when he wrote me. It's somehow true, I don't have much time to devote to racing sims. Basically I have a couple of hours free per night, so I need to decide what I do with them. I most of the times prefer to hop on newsgroups and communicate with the world. Try to put out my opinions for the community. I'll often check out VROC or ICQ, but my racing time has diminuish by much since the end of the NROS when I was 12hours per day there as a NROS Guide. I remember somebody who did that in the NG a couple of months. He basically retired of r.a.s. because he didn't had anymore time to devote to racing sims. I can understand him. I don't see why you think it's a bad thing either to devote time on the Usenet. It's a great tool of communication. I also suffer from major procrastination. UGH!

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> But then, last weekend my > granddaughter was on the Internet, sniffing about in one of her Girl Scout > newsgroups and found a girl talking about a new Girl Scout cookie being > produced for next year's annual cookie drive. The ingredients for the new > cookie were listed.....and my grand daughter said some person was arguing > over the benefits of using "bleached flour" instead of "whole grain" flour > and that she thought she recognized the name from something she saw on my > computer a few nights earlier? I asked her what the person's name > was.....she said: > > "Frank <the-ymenard-cookie-monster> Expert" > > She thought that was an awfully unusual name.....especially for someone > acting so rude on her Girl Scout newsgroup!

LOL funny but untrue ;-) Anyway ymenard is unique and my propriety. > looking for the reason why everyone else is faster than he is in > GPL. He always figured it was "an equipment issue".....you know? LMAO! ;-D > I'll know Frank has really flipped out.....if he ever tells me he's givenup > "collecting Star Wars dolls"......man, that would be the ultimatesacrifice, > Frank! Don't Do It Man! If you ever see that I'm about to do that, contact me via email DIRECTLY because something is truely wrong ;-) > We probably could all help Frank, if we'd just give him a good argument > every day or two. Maybe he'd come back to sim racing eventually? Who knows? Perhaps WSC and N4 will cure my psychological problems ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Well, neither my wife nor I bicker over language subtleties and I doubt if there'd be too many married couples who would! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- A Thomas <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:94i6dg$8p7$[email hidden]... > > If I didn't know better , I'd swear that ymenard and Bruce were married > judging by the way the're constantly bickering over language subtleties. > :-)

"Failure"? Because the French use both versions for the same thing whereas the English trend is to use them separately? Yeah...."failure" for sure, Frank! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jr3b6.105593$[email hidden]... > >"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Frankie, have you now set yourself up as spokesman for all those for whom > > English is not their first language? Or are you merely continuing your > role > > of RAS Genius-in-Residence? You did a quick survey overnight to get the > > numbers on just how many people it confused, did you? > > > Hey man relax Bruce, I was just stating that you wrote F12 in your subject > header which might have confused some people. It wasn't harsh at all, > actually it wasn't really compare to when you actually do such thing! > Remember your failure with the "grill" situation. > > Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. >

You *are* pulling my leg, aren't you, Tom?! Frank's given up racing???? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Cp4b6.16386$[email hidden]... > Bruce... > > Francois, no longer sim races.......didn't he send you an email too? >

Well....I'm speechless!! I am totally without speech, Frank. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b08b6.107650$[email hidden]... > > > It's somehow true, I don't have much time to devote to racing sims. > Basically I have a couple of hours free per night, so I need to decide what > I do with them. I most of the times prefer to hop on newsgroups and > communicate with the world. Try to put out my opinions for the community.

>"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > Well....I'm speechless!! I am totally without speech, Frank. You should also apply this to your writing from time to time, instead of babbling some non-sense you don't know just for the sake of being grouchy. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

>"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > "Failure"? Because the French use both versions for the same thing whereas > the English trend is to use them separately? I'm so glad you learned your lesson. Don't do to others what you don't like to be done to yourself. And yes, it was a _failure_. Anybody who has knowledge of motorsport terms know that we use the word GRILL. Heck I've just searched my dictionary of automotive term and it's there as the alternate spelling of grille. Everybody who wants to point out the front of car in Stockcar tells it's a *grill*. Nice try Bruce. FYI, in French it's "grille" and only that. It wasn't even a French thing, LMAO! > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote > > Hey man relax Bruce, I was just stating that you wrote F12 in yoursubject > > header which might have confused some people. It wasn't harsh at all, > > actually it wasn't really compare to when you actually do such thing! > > Remember your failure with the "grill" situation. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Dave Henrie wrote: > Perhaps in honor of Bruce's attempt to help, we should rename the view > to FB. > That way it in no way is associated with, and thereby considered a lesser > view, of the F10 key. Now that was funny! Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

ymenard wrote ... > Hey man relax Bruce, I was just stating that you wrote F12 in your subject > header which might have confused some people. It wasn't harsh at all, For the record, let this disinterested third party state that your initial response to Bruce did indeed seem harsh and unnecessary. In terms of marital language subtlety discussions, it would be called "pissy". FWIW.