I think Im having problems with DX8 & GPL

I've been having a controller problem with GPL and I think it may be Direct X 8 related. While I'm driving the control input from my Nascar Pro Digital seems to freeze for a split second every once in a while. This has been giving me fits as I have been trying to get under the 9:00 mark at Nurburgring in F2. Help me Obi-Won, Your my only hope. Jack SmashF2 GplRank +113(and still need to get 16 secs off my N'Ring time)

DX8a is now available from here: ftp://ftp.clubic.com/pub/logiciel/PatchsLogiciel/DirectX8-433-2.exe it's a 25mb download because it has both win9x and win2000 support, it might fix your problems. But it sounds more like a dirty pot. Alex "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cqqc6.10665$[email hidden]... > I've been having a controller problem with GPL and I think it may beDirect > X 8 related. While I'm driving the control input from my Nascar ProDigital

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> seems to freeze for a split second every once in a while. This has been > giving me fits as I have been trying to get under the 9:00 mark at > Nurburgring in F2. Help me Obi-Won, Your my only hope. > > > > Jack SmashF2 GplRank +113(and still need to get 16 secs off my N'Ring > time) > > >

Could be a million things but is probably not dx8. RA recommends this in system.ini to help with disk caching glitches: [386Enh] ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 Also if it is hooked up to a soundcard port check that it is using the accelerated port driver, and turn down the detail slider. rms [email hidden]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:14:34 GMT, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Could be a million things but is probably not dx8. RA recommends this in >system.ini to help with disk caching glitches: >[386Enh] >ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 What they suggest is wrong. I don't know the details, but talk to any MSCE and they will tell you that doing this with Win98 is a bad thing and may be detrimental to performance/stability. -- Jagg

In article <cqqc6.10665$[email hidden]>, "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I've been having a controller problem with GPL and I think it may be[snip] Double-check under the "Controller IDs" tab that "Poll with interrupts enabled is NOT checked. I saw this get changed when I first installed DX8. Another potential problem I've seen is having a disconnected controller in the Controllers list - DX8 or the controller drivers seem to keep polling for the device. I just add and remove controllers as needed. HTH! Kendt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

In article <[email hidden]>, noemail wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:14:34 GMT, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> > thus spoke: > > >Could be a million things but is probably not dx8. RA recommendsthis in

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> >system.ini to help with disk caching glitches: > >[386Enh] > >ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 > > What they suggest is wrong. I don't know the details, but talk to any > MSCE and they will tell you that doing this with Win98 is a bad thing > and may be detrimental to performance/stability. > -- > Jagg

Yep - it does exactly the opposite of what people think it does. It doesn't make Windows use the Swapfile less, it just forces swaps to disk to happen irrespective of whether the system is busy or not - which could increase the chance of stuttering. Kendt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

I looked in Controllers and I only have one listed in there. I dont have a "poll with interupts enabled" box in my "Controller ID's" tab. I tried cleaning my pots first but I didnt think this would work since it locks up all controlls and not just one. I think im going to try DX8a and see if that helps. This is driving me nuts since it only happens in GPL and nothing else. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:94v668$676$[email hidden]...

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> In article <cqqc6.10665$[email hidden]>, > "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I've been having a controller problem with GPL and I think it may be > [snip] > > Double-check under the "Controller IDs" tab that "Poll with interrupts > enabled is NOT checked. I saw this get changed when I first installed > DX8. > Another potential problem I've seen is having a disconnected controller > in the Controllers list - DX8 or the controller drivers seem to keep > polling for the device. I just add and remove controllers as needed. > > HTH! > Kendt > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > noemail wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:14:34 GMT, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> > > thus spoke: > > > > >Could be a million things but is probably not dx8. RA recommends > this in > > >system.ini to help with disk caching glitches: > > >[386Enh] > > >ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 > > > > What they suggest is wrong. I don't know the details, but talk to any > > MSCE and they will tell you that doing this with Win98 is a bad thing > > and may be detrimental to performance/stability. > > -- > > Jagg > > Yep - it does exactly the opposite of what people think it does. It > doesn't make Windows use the Swapfile less, it just forces swaps to > disk to happen irrespective of whether the system is busy or not - > which could increase the chance of stuttering. > > Kendt >

What should it be? My system.ini reads as above and I get some nasty stutters on occasion in GPL. -- don GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker.co.uk/gpl/bapom/

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:40:52 -0800, "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >What should it be? My system.ini reads as above and I get some nasty >stutters on occasion in GPL. Just delete that line. The only thing you might want to do is create a permanent fixed size swap file of about 300mb and see if that helps with your problem. -- Jagg

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> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:40:52 -0800, "don hodgdon" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > > >What should it be? My system.ini reads as above and I get some nasty > >stutters on occasion in GPL. > > Just delete that line. The only thing you might want to do is create a > permanent fixed size swap file of about 300mb and see if that helps > with your problem. > -- > Jagg

Thanks Jagg. don

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>In article <cqqc6.10665$[email hidden]>, > "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> I've been having a controller problem with GPL and I think it may be >[snip] > >Double-check under the "Controller IDs" tab that "Poll with interrupts >enabled is NOT checked. I saw this get changed when I first installed >DX8.

Is this specific to win95? I have win98, and I don't have that tab, or I'm just looking in the wrong place... Control panel, Game controllers. I've looked on the general and advanced tabs. I've also checked the properties. It ain't there... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > Is this specific to win95? I have win98, and I don't have that tab,or I'm > just looking in the wrong place... Control panel, Game controllers.I've > looked on the general and advanced tabs. I've also checked theproperties. It > ain't there... > > Eldred > I was looking at my PC - Win98, DX8. I think they switched some stuff around with DX8. I don't have a PC with 95 setup right now, but I do remember the option being there somewhere too. My "Gaming Options" Control Panel has 2 tabs: "Controllers" and "Controller IDs". At the bottom of Controller IDs, in the "Port Driver Assignment" frame, is the interrupt checkbox. HTH, Kendt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

In article <zQHc6.14833$[email hidden]>, "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I looked in Controllers and I only have one listed in there. I donthave a > "poll with interupts enabled" box in my "Controller ID's" tab. I Hmmm... is mystery ;)... I'll have to look and see why I seem to have the setting, and some others don't. The TM wheel you have is USB, right? Do you have *no* joystick port devices? I've installed the DX8 control panel, but I know I had the option from the get-go. My controllers: SB-Live sound card ActLabs Force RS TM Nascar Pro (for the pedals) MS FF joystick (sims) Logitech digital JS (FPS movement) Gravis digital gamepad (for sports games) Logitech Wingmanteam DXTweak (to manually adjust deadzones and controller ranges) So, I've had alot of controller drivers installed - but I don't think any one of them enabled this checkbox. You only have the problem in GPL? How much system memory do you have, and have you tried disabling replays? What's your video card, 3d renderer? If your wheel is USB, do you have it plugged directly in the PC, or through a USB hub? Do you know if your system is sharing interrupts between the USB ports and another device? I'd also add the fixed size swapfile - somewhere between 1 and 2x your system RAM - at least 256 or larger if a specific game needs it (I remember Unreal liking some 300mb, and people with B17-II are saying 1gig!). HTH, Kendt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Duh - forgot to ask - do you have only USB devices? I'm pretty sure the setting is only relevant to, and enabled for gameport devices. Since I have several, I see the setting. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Eldred, No, it's not specific to 95. Most likely you're stick/wheel is using a gameport driver other than the standard. You can switch back to standard by selecting it from the drop down list in the port driver box and then you should see the poll with interrupts option. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Is this specific to win95? I have win98, and I don't have that tab, orI'm > just looking in the wrong place... Control panel, Game controllers. I've > looked on the general and advanced tabs. I've also checked theproperties. It

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> ain't there... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:40:52 -0800, "don hodgdon" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > > >What should it be? My system.ini reads as above and I get some nasty > >stutters on occasion in GPL. > > Just delete that line. The only thing you might want to do is create a > permanent fixed size swap file of about 300mb and see if that helps > with your problem. > -- > Jagg

Also, go to device manager in Control panel - System, and check if DMA is checked in the properties of your disk device(s). Bart Westra

Ok here is my setup. Win2k SP1(forgot to mention that in the original post) P3@500 on a Abit Bh6 Mb w/128mb ram Soundblaster Live!Value Voodoo 3 300 AGP Ibm 20Gig Hd Seagate 8Gig Hd Mitsumi Cd-r Sony 42x? Cd-Rom Running my wheel through Usb Port on Pc(not hub) Dont no about the other stuff since I am just learning about system devices Thank You Jack Smash ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: Re: I think Im having problems with DX8 & GPL <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:951mpd$22v$[email hidden]...

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> In article <zQHc6.14833$[email hidden]>, > "Jack Smash" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I looked in Controllers and I only have one listed in there. I dont > have a > > "poll with interupts enabled" box in my "Controller ID's" tab. I > > Hmmm... is mystery ;)... > I'll have to look and see why I seem to have the setting, and some > others don't. The TM wheel you have is USB, right? Do you have *no* > joystick port devices? I've installed the DX8 control panel, but I > know I had the option from the get-go. > My controllers: > SB-Live sound card > ActLabs Force RS > TM Nascar Pro (for the pedals) > MS FF joystick (sims) > Logitech digital JS (FPS movement) > Gravis digital gamepad (for sports games) > Logitech Wingmanteam DXTweak (to manually adjust deadzones and > controller ranges) > So, I've had alot of controller drivers installed - but I don't think > any one of them enabled this checkbox. > > You only have the problem in GPL? How much system memory do you have, > and have you tried disabling replays? What's your video card, 3d > renderer? If your wheel is USB, do you have it plugged directly in the > PC, or through a USB hub? Do you know if your system is sharing > interrupts between the USB ports and another device? > I'd also add the fixed size swapfile - somewhere between 1 and 2x your > system RAM - at least 256 or larger if a specific game needs it (I > remember Unreal liking some 300mb, and people with B17-II are saying > 1gig!). > > HTH, > Kendt > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

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>Eldred, > >No, it's not specific to 95. > >Most likely you're stick/wheel is using a gameport driver other than the >standard. You can switch back to standard by selecting it from the drop down >list in the port driver box and then you should see the poll with interrupts >option. >

Correct - I have a PDPI interface. I set it back to standard gameport, and the checkbox popped up. So, if my port isn't the issue, I have to search for a different problem with my ability to control the car smoothly... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Is this specific to win95? I have win98, and I don't have that tab, > or I'm > just looking in the wrong place... Control panel, Game controllers. > I've > looked on the general and advanced tabs. I've also checked the > properties. It > ain't there...

I have Windoze 98 (se) and its there. Look in start, settings, control panel, game controllers, advanced, its a small box in the bottom left corner of the box, it says "Poll with interupts enabled". Make sure the box is not ticked. 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

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>> Is this specific to win95? I have win98, and I don't have that tab, >> or I'm >> just looking in the wrong place... Control panel, Game controllers. >> I've >> looked on the general and advanced tabs. I've also checked the >> properties. It >> ain't there... > >I have Windoze 98 (se) and its there. Look in start, settings, control >panel, game controllers, advanced, its a small box in the bottom left >corner of the box, it says "Poll with interupts enabled". > >Make sure the box is not ticked. >

You also have a standard game controller, right?<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.