[OT] Wanna see the ugliest race car...

Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. Ray Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

In article <959q1n$tt6$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. If you think that was bad (it really was), you don't want to take a look at what Ronnie Peterson drove in 1971: http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?z=0&k=0&l=10&x=101&f=1971/02018_RN.JP G -- //[email hidden]

Ah, yes, the old card table on the nose of the car trick... Guess the wind tunnel was down for maintenance when they came up with that design! Anyway, odd and freakish, yes, but I think the Ensign was much more hideous. To each his own. Lol BTW, your link didn't work. I had to find 1971 in Forix and go to the photo gallery. Cheers, Ray > brydenrh wrote: > > Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the PhotoGallery for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > Juha Kallioinen <[email hidden]> wrote > If you think that was bad (it really was), you don't want to take alook at what Ronnie Peterson drove in 1971: > > http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?&k=0&l=10&x=101&f=1971/02018_RN.JPG Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

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> Ah, yes, the old card table on the nose of the car trick... Guess the > wind tunnel was down for maintenance when they came up with that design! > > Anyway, odd and freakish, yes, but I think the Ensign was much more > hideous. To each his own. Lol > > BTW, your link didn't work. I had to find 1971 in Forix and go to the > photo gallery.

Worked for me- I bet that part of the link was wrapped around to the next line down in your case.

did you ever see the 4wd car made by cosworth- it never raced and was eventually scrapped thank goodness Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in message Anyway, odd and freakish, yes, but I think the Ensign was much more

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> > hideous. To each his own. Lol > > > > BTW, your link didn't work. I had to find 1971 in Forix and go to the > > photo gallery. > > Worked for me- I bet that part of the link was wrapped around to the next > line down in your case. > >

ECH! -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +13.01 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "Juha Kallioinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <959q1n$tt6$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > > Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > > for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > > monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > If you think that was bad (it really was), you don't want to take a look > at what Ronnie Peterson drove in 1971: > > http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?z=0&k=0&l=10&x=101&f=1971/02018_RN.JP > G > > -- > //[email hidden] >

Ok, here's the link, to make it easy... [caution, do not look directly at your monitor as it may cause temporary blindness and nausea; ask a friend to view it and describe it to you] Enjoy: http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&x=101&f=1979/03022_RN.JPG Ray Tim O <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:46:03 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > >Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > >for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > >monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > Looks like a race car version of the Yamaha Banshee... >

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/01motorsports/01atv/01atv_images/500/01bansh_blu _4_500.jpg > > Tim >

>Ah, yes, the old card table on the nose of the car trick... Guess the >wind tunnel was down for maintenance when they came up with that design! FWIW it looks more like a surfboard mounted to the nose :) Either way its odd...shows what some teams did to simply "improve" upon last years car back then. Look at some of the monstrousities that filled the back of the grid at Indy in the late 60s early 70s...talk about plyboard remodeling :) And yes the Ensign is far uglier...and to think they actually DESIGNED it that way. Chris

jeez look at rolf stommelen http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&x=2&r=6209&f=jplc&i=63 South africa 1972 who the hell designed these who the hell wants GPL2 in the 70's drawing these cars will be a nightmare!!!!

for your information this car is still racing today. It is driven by Peter MULLER, team manager of a race truck team and is entered in the FIA classic F1 championship. This championship is with F1 cars from 1970 until 1978 (the black lotus of andretti), they are having 6 or 7 races per year on european tracks, some of the races are with us (the trucks), at least 2 next year, Nurburg (mid july) and Zolder (end of september). Even though the drivers are not "professionals" the noise is still there, and what a noise, you also have the 6 wheel tyrell from Depailler. "Juha Kallioinen" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: [email hidden]...

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> In article <959q1n$tt6$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > > Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > > for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > > monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > If you think that was bad (it really was), you don't want to take a look > at what Ronnie Peterson drove in 1971: > > http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp?z=0&k=0&l=10&x=101&f=1971/02018_RN.JP > G > > -- > //[email hidden]

>Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery >for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous >monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. I think the "Ugliest F1 car" award has to go to the 6-wheel Tyrrell or the 1979 Ferrari 312 T4. Urgh :-) - Cheers! Graeme Nash

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:46:03 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery >for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous >monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. Looks like a race car version of the Yamaha Banshee... http://www.yamaha-motor.com/01motorsports/01atv/01atv_images/500/01bansh_blu_4_500.jpg Tim

I think the past two Ferraris are OOGLY(Derek Daly's word) I just saw the 2001 Ferrari and it is MARGINALLY better, the nose droops some now. The Car Schooey won the WC in looked to me like a dang Preying Mantiss... (now comes the argument...it doesn't matter what it looks like, so long as it is fast...){here is the reply to that in advance: BOLLUCKS!} dave henrie "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > >for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > >monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > I think the "Ugliest F1 car" award has to go to the 6-wheel Tyrrell or > the 1979 Ferrari 312 T4. Urgh :-) > > - > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

hey Graeme! I used to think that Ferrari was an ugly beast too, until I saw the December 2000 issue of F1 Racing magazine! They've made that Ferrari look like a Sex Machine (As the article is named :-) Tecki Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > >for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > >monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > I think the "Ugliest F1 car" award has to go to the 6-wheel Tyrrell or > the 1979 Ferrari 312 T4. Urgh :-) > > - > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

Semi <[email hidden]> wrote: > did you ever see the 4wd car made by cosworth- it never raced and was > eventually scrapped thank goodness Actually, no. Where could we youngsters see a pic of it? +Cinquo

well its in one of my books (concise encyclopedia of formula 1) book by mark hughes and david tremayne) if your desperate to see this abberation from 1969, send me an email and ill send you a scan of the offending page Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95c34s$oab$[email hidden]...

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> Semi <[email hidden]> wrote: > > did you ever see the 4wd car made by cosworth- it never raced and was > > eventually scrapped thank goodness > > Actually, no. Where could we youngsters see a pic of it? > > +Cinquo

The Ugliest race car I've ever seen was an Austin Maestro Turbo Diesel Automatic (I'm not kidding!) in a saloon car race last year at Castle Combe. Although I'd say it's probably the worst possible car for track racing it was by no means last. Some Call Me Tim

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> Semi <[email hidden]> wrote: > > did you ever see the 4wd car made by cosworth- it never raced and was > > eventually scrapped thank goodness > > Actually, no. Where could we youngsters see a pic of it? > > +Cinquo

When I visited 2 years ago, the car was on display at Donnington Park museum. Andy.

This one makes you wonder if some f1 designer has a timemachine. http://www.forix.com/asp/pa.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=7403014&c=0 ..Bob

Ugliest cars I ever saw? Anything from the 2000 grid would fit that bill nicely ! MS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:959q1n$tt6$[email hidden]...

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> Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo Gallery > for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most hideous > monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > Ray > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

That'll be the March 711. Peterson actually took that car to four second places in 1971 and finished runner up in the championship. Dem was da days when you could buy a chassis and a Cossie and go racing with the big boys at Grands Prix <sigh> MS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95a0a2$422$[email hidden]...

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> Ah, yes, the old card table on the nose of the car trick... Guess the > wind tunnel was down for maintenance when they came up with that design! > > Anyway, odd and freakish, yes, but I think the Ensign was much more > hideous. To each his own. Lol > > BTW, your link didn't work. I had to find 1971 in Forix and go to the > photo gallery. > > Cheers, > > Ray > > > brydenrh wrote: > > > Go to http://www.forix.com - go to 1979 and look in the Photo > Gallery for Derek Daly's Ensign at the South African GP. Truly the most > hideous monstrosity ever entered into a Grand Prix. > > > Juha Kallioinen <[email hidden]> wrote > > If you think that was bad (it really was), you don't want to take a > look at what Ronnie Peterson drove in 1971: > > > > http://www.forix.com/asp/photos.asp? > &k=0&l=10&x=101&f=1971/02018_RN.JPG > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

"Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Kmcf6.9541$[email hidden]... > Ugliest cars I ever saw? > Anything from the 2000 grid would fit that bill nicely ! >agreed! dave henrie

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> "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Kmcf6.9541$[email hidden]... >> Ugliest cars I ever saw? >> Anything from the 2000 grid would fit that bill nicely ! >> > agreed! > dave henrie

Naa, I don't think the current cars are that ugly, compared to all those seventies' abominations people have presented here. The problem is that they all look identical. BTW, I understand that in the past F1 cars used to be painted according to some kind of scheme of national colors. Do the modern cars pay any heed to this tradition? +Cinquo

Red was Italy. Green was England Blue was France Silver was Germany(?) Ferrari developed a specific 'Blood Red' color that has been bastardized by the Marlboro Orange-Red they are forced to wear now. The Ligier/Prost still run blue. The Lotus colors were green but none of the current English teams run a strick British Green. However the Jaguar team does run a shade of green. the rest carry sponsorhsip colors not national colors dave henrie "Ville V Sinkko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95k25r$rrq$[email hidden]...

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> Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Kmcf6.9541$[email hidden]... > >> Ugliest cars I ever saw? > >> Anything from the 2000 grid would fit that bill nicely ! > >> > > agreed! > > dave henrie > > Naa, I don't think the current cars are that ugly, compared to all those > seventies' abominations people have presented here. The problem is that > they all look identical. > > BTW, I understand that in the past F1 cars used to be painted according > to some kind of scheme of national colors. Do the modern cars pay any heed > to this tradition? > > > +Cinquo

Silver was the traditional German racing color due to a special happening: Somewhen a car was to heavy to fulfil the regulations. So the mechanics scratched off all the paint during the night and the car started aluminum-silver on the next day. Later white became the official German racing color. Jens Disclaimer: The above statement was made right from my memory. If there is anything to correct or add please simply do it and do *not* shout at me please. On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:20:41 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Red was Italy. >Green was England >Blue was France >Silver was Germany(?)<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -8.3

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>In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >> I'm curious though. How much does a coat(or 2) of paint weigh? :) > >Apparently more than you might think. Didn't Jaguar change the color >of their F1 car from a true BRG (that it was once shown in, although it >never raced in that color) to the current green, due to the particular >paint they had for BRG being "too heavy"? > >Also, a friend of mine who is quite interested in aviation has assured me >that American Airlines, with their unpainted jets, achieves noticeable >fuel savings over other airlines, who paint theirs. I don't have a >reference for that, but this being USENET, I'm not required to, right? :)

No, I can believe it's a significant weight savings on a jumbo jet. But, we're talking about a single-seater racing car, not a 747...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.