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GPL - Personal Toughest Corner??

25 posts by 22 people · 02 Feb 2001 16:16 UTC - 22 Mar 2001 03:20 UTC

Players' toughest individual corners in GPL

markgame named Imola's Rivazza as his hardest GPL corner, and others offered Mosport's Moss corner, the Monaco chicane, Rouen's left before the hairpin, Malmedy and others. Calis quoted Niki Lauda's 1975 book on cornering, and some posters noted that the topic had been discussed recently.

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markgame 02 Feb 2001 16:16 UTC#206775
My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get tagged if you try to be conservative. Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? -- Email: [email hidden] Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Moss (5b) at Mosport. Man, I can never seem to get the power down fast or smooth enough to keep up with the fast(er)-guys down the back straight :) Jason. markgame wrote: > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
markgame <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (10 lines)> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
The next corner coming up at the Ring. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying
Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote: > markgame <[email hidden]> writes: >> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? The corner of the leftmost haybale at the Monaco chicane. +Cinquo (GPLRank 30.19 and now premiering triple Oscar winner "Stranded in the Eldred Plateau II")
Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> markgame <[email hidden]> writes: > > > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > The next corner coming up at the Ring. :) >
DING DING DING DING! > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying
Im gonna say my toughest corner on the original circuts would be casino square at Monaco. No matter what I loose time here. I either brake too early or too late or try to trail brake and screw that up as well. Just cant get it right. Now as for the add on tracks my personal hell is....well pretty much any corner at Goodwood. I can memorize all 174 turns of the Ring but the like 10(?) turns at Goodwood still puzzle me. Chris
Hasn't this already been done to death? Anyway, for me it's always been the little left-right kink after the hairpin at Rouen. I only got that right once in all the times I've raced and practiced there and I even went to the trouble of recording a replay of it just to remember what it was like to slide through that thing in a perfect four-wheel drift. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +13.01 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "markgame" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]... > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > -- > Email: [email hidden] > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/ >
With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!!
beat me to it. I was going to say Turn two at the Pants Ring ;-) Thom j. wrote in message ...
Quoted text (7 lines)>With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand >turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > >> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > >
Turn 1 at Spa, but not at the start of a race, I mean when at full race speed. That is one corner (of many) that I have never "nailed" . It looks like it should be SO simple. I must be doing something fundamentally wrong there.I think I am at the point now where I overthink it everytime I come to it. I know my time at Spa would be significantly better if I could hit it a little more consistently. My PB at Spa is 3.30.x.xsomething. Still haven't figured out Solitude yet either, but I love the rhythym there, especially the back part that starts with the river on the left. The right hander at the end of the straight at Mosport always gives me fits too. >> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? >> >> -- >> Email: [email hidden]
In article <95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]>, markgame <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (11 lines)>My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > >Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running >nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and >downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for >the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. >And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get >tagged if you try to be conservative. > >Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? >
What - again?!? :) The left-hander before the hairpin at Rouen. I can't brake in the mini-straight after the turn because I can't slow down in time. I can't brake IN the turn because I spin out. As a result, I brake BEFORE the turn, and coast through it...and hope I've slowed the correct speed to make the hairpin. I screw this one up 8 laps out of 10... :( Close second is the chicane at Monaco. I can make it when I'm not trying to go fast. That's about it. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
T2 at Kylami, Ok I know your all saying "Whaaaaaaaa?" But since I like to race so much at Kylami this is the one corner I always have problems with, it's relatively easy to get through the corner but it's a real make or break one for a lap, I always brake too early. If i try to brake too late I usually lock up since I find it difficult going downhill. Not a terrible corner, but a terrible one to drive perfectly. markgame <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > -- > Email: [email hidden] > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/
Malmedy at Spa.. I am all over the place through there and never seem to get it right. People always catch me there which sets them up to pass me before Masta. Lol SpeedFreek
In article <95eqs6$o6j$[email hidden]>, Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> writes: >+Cinquo (GPLRank 30.19 and now premiering triple Oscar winner "Stranded in >the Eldred Plateau II") What the...? Cinquo, you really *must* get out more...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Calis 06 Feb 2001 10:40 UTC↳ reply to markgame#206241
markgame <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]... > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 - well written book (in german), but most probably out of print. btw: a picture of a Goodyear tire protocol sheet is given, looks exactly like the tire readings in GPL-setup menu... (temps and pressure readings) in alphabetical order: (Some of these corners are available in GPL :) 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander) 2. Brands Hatch: Clearways (surface change and track camber change, Niki crashed in a F3 here..) and Paddock Bend (downhills, getting narrower and bumpy braking zone "unerhoert holprig") 3.Interlagos Curva 2 4. Monza: Curva Grande (no particular reason given) 5. Mosport: the full-speed (1975 and aero help :) left kink down to the hairpin. 6. N.Ring: the jump (yes, even with aero!) between Pflanzgarten and Schwalbenschwanz. no need to translate why, I guess :) Niki also mentions that Mike Hailwoods' career ended here in 1974 :( 7. Oesterreichring: the fast uphill right hander (Hella - Lichtkurve) after s/f which has to be taken without seeing the exit. 8. Silverstone: Woodcote (the old one without chicane :) with aero it's *almost* flat out... there has been a mass collision in 1973 started by Scheckter 9. Watkins Glen: (different to GPL version?) the left kink to the Bridge, where Francois Cevert made his last mistake when he took it just a bit too far to the left :( 10. Zandvoort: the full speed passage (aero help, mind you..) starting at Scheivlak, almost 1 km long, left - right - right at full throttle with no margin for mistakes.. -- Calis
"Calis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4wQf6.55382$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 > - well written book (in german), but most probably out of print. > btw: a picture of a Goodyear tire protocol sheet is given, looks exactly > like the tire readings in GPL-setup menu... (temps and pressure readings) > > in alphabetical order: > (Some of these corners are available in GPL :) > > 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander)
I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL? Chris -- GPL FD League http://www.geocities.com/simbokza/gplfd http://www.egroups.com/group/gplfd Simbok Racing www.geocities.com/simbokza Remove _your_clothes before replying --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.214 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16-Nov-00
Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: >> 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander) > I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL? Because everyone is busy suggesting banked Monza, Reims and banked Monza. +Cinquo [27.14]
While I was in the US last year one week as the USGP approached a promo supplement to introduce F1 to the mass US audience came with my newspaper. It described the difference between standard US oval racing and F1 as being that F1 was "road racing" and tried to emulate normal driving conditions "and therefore has right as well as left turns". In article <sODe6.25895$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: > With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand > turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > > > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
"Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book > > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 > > 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander) > I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL? A street circuit like Monaco. Would probably be very hard to make, and framerate would be bad (unless they solved that problem now). -- ____ /______\_ .\\ a t t h e a d [ XT./~~~~ [ Rex\_____ http://my.bawue.de/~matthead \____/\__]_] 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro (154 Mm)
Hi! Calis schrieb:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > markgame <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > 95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]... > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 > - well written book (in german), but most probably out of print.
Very interesting book to read! I got it from the library years ago. It's a shame that they didn't have it anymore. > 6. N.Ring: the jump (yes, even with aero!) between Pflanzgarten > and Schwalbenschwanz. no need to translate why, I guess :) > Niki also mentions that Mike Hailwoods' career ended here in 1974 :( What happened to him? > 9. Watkins Glen: (different to GPL version?) the left kink to the Bridge, > where > Francois Cevert made his last mistake when he took it just a bit too far to the left :( IMO it wasn't a drivers error but a mechanical failure on his Tyrrell. BTW: Do you got any F1-Videos from the old days (70ties, 80ties - recorded from ORF perhaps)? Lutz -- Home: http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/8059/
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Quoted text (19 lines)> While I was in the US last year one week as the USGP approached a promo > supplement to introduce F1 to the mass US audience came with my > newspaper. It described the difference between standard US oval racing > and F1 as being that F1 was "road racing" and tried to emulate normal > driving conditions "and therefore has right as well as left turns". > > > In article <sODe6.25895$[email hidden]>, > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: > > With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand > > turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > > > > > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/
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Quoted text (13 lines)> On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:14:11 +0100, Lutz Goerke > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >BTW: Do you got any F1-Videos from the old days (70ties, 80ties - > >recorded from ORF perhaps)? > > Check out: http://www.thef1files.com/ > > > > > /Magnus > GPLRank hcp: -40.33
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