My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!!
Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running
nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and
downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for
the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right.
And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get
tagged if you try to be conservative.
Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
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Players' toughest individual corners in GPL
markgame named Imola's Rivazza as his hardest GPL corner, and others offered Mosport's Moss corner, the Monaco chicane, Rouen's left before the hairpin, Malmedy and others. Calis quoted Niki Lauda's 1975 book on cornering, and some posters noted that the topic had been discussed recently.
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The next corner coming up at the Ring. :)
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> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote:
> markgame <[email hidden]> writes:
>> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
The corner of the leftmost haybale at the Monaco chicane.
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> markgame <[email hidden]> writes: > > > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > The next corner coming up at the Ring. :) >Im gonna say my toughest corner on the original circuts would be casino square
at Monaco. No matter what I loose time here. I either brake too early or too
late or try to trail brake and screw that up as well. Just cant get it right.
Now as for the add on tracks my personal hell is....well pretty much any corner
at Goodwood. I can memorize all 174 turns of the Ring but the like 10(?) turns
at Goodwood still puzzle me.
Chris
Hasn't this already been done to death? Anyway, for me it's always been the
little left-right kink after the hairpin at Rouen. I only got that right once in
all the times I've raced and practiced there and I even went to the trouble of
recording a replay of it just to remember what it was like to slide through that
thing in a perfect four-wheel drift.
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> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!!
>
> Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running
> nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and
> downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for
> the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right.
> And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get
> tagged if you try to be conservative.
>
> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
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With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand
turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j.
> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!!
beat me to it. I was going to say Turn two at the Pants Ring ;-)
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>With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand >turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > >> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > >Turn 1 at Spa, but not at the start of a race, I mean when at full race speed.
That is one corner (of many) that I have never "nailed" . It looks like it
should be SO simple. I must be doing something fundamentally wrong there.I
think I am at the point now where I overthink it everytime I come to it. I know
my time at Spa would be significantly better if I could hit it a little more
consistently. My PB at Spa is 3.30.x.xsomething.
Still haven't figured out Solitude yet either, but I love the rhythym there,
especially the back part that starts with the river on the left.
The right hander at the end of the straight at Mosport always gives me fits
too.
>> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
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writes:
What - again?!? :)
The left-hander before the hairpin at Rouen. I can't brake in the
mini-straight after the turn because I can't slow down in time. I can't brake
IN the turn because I spin out. As a result, I brake BEFORE the turn, and
coast through it...and hope I've slowed the correct speed to make the hairpin.
I screw this one up 8 laps out of 10... :(
Close second is the chicane at Monaco. I can make it when I'm not trying to go
fast. That's about it.
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>My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > >Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running >nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and >downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for >the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. >And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get >tagged if you try to be conservative. > >Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? >T2 at Kylami,
Ok I know your all saying "Whaaaaaaaa?"
But since I like to race so much at Kylami this is the one corner I always
have problems with, it's relatively easy to get through the corner but it's
a real make or break one for a lap, I always brake too early. If i try to
brake too late I usually lock up since I find it difficult going downhill.
Not a terrible corner, but a terrible one to drive perfectly.
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> My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > Highest on my list would be the Rivizza at Imola. I'm already running > nearly flat out and sweeping to the left when I have to brake and > downshift while rolling into a slight right then back to the left for > the first of the two apexes... I never feel like I got it quite right. > And heaven help you if there is a car behind, because you WILL get > tagged if you try to be conservative. > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > -- > Email: [email hidden] > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/Malmedy at Spa..
I am all over the place through there and never
seem to get it right. People always catch me there
which sets them up to pass me before Masta.
Lol SpeedFreek
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What the...?
Cinquo, you really *must* get out more...<g>
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> Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why?
Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book
"Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975
- well written book (in german), but most probably out of print.
btw: a picture of a Goodyear tire protocol sheet is given, looks exactly
like the tire readings in GPL-setup menu... (temps and pressure readings)
in alphabetical order:
(Some of these corners are available in GPL :)
1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander)
2. Brands Hatch: Clearways (surface change and track camber change,
Niki crashed in a F3 here..) and Paddock Bend (downhills, getting
narrower and bumpy braking zone "unerhoert holprig")
3.Interlagos Curva 2
4. Monza: Curva Grande (no particular reason given)
5. Mosport: the full-speed (1975 and aero help :) left kink
down to the hairpin.
6. N.Ring: the jump (yes, even with aero!) between Pflanzgarten
and Schwalbenschwanz. no need to translate why, I guess :)
Niki also mentions that Mike Hailwoods' career ended here in 1974 :(
7. Oesterreichring: the fast uphill right hander (Hella - Lichtkurve)
after s/f which has to be taken without seeing the exit.
8. Silverstone: Woodcote (the old one without chicane :)
with aero it's *almost* flat out... there has been a mass collision in
1973
started by Scheckter
9. Watkins Glen: (different to GPL version?) the left kink to the Bridge,
where
Francois Cevert made his last mistake when he took it just a bit too far
to the left :(
10. Zandvoort: the full speed passage (aero help, mind you..)
starting at Scheivlak, almost 1 km long, left - right - right
at full throttle with no margin for mistakes..
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I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL?
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> > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 > - well written book (in german), but most probably out of print. > btw: a picture of a Goodyear tire protocol sheet is given, looks exactly > like the tire readings in GPL-setup menu... (temps and pressure readings) > > in alphabetical order: > (Some of these corners are available in GPL :) > > 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander)Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander)
> I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL?
Because everyone is busy suggesting banked Monza, Reims and banked
Monza.
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While I was in the US last year one week as the USGP approached a promo
supplement to introduce F1 to the mass US audience came with my
newspaper. It described the difference between standard US oval racing
and F1 as being that F1 was "road racing" and tried to emulate normal
driving conditions "and therefore has right as well as left turns".
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> With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand
> turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j.
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> > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!!
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> > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book
> > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975
> > 1. the jump in Barcelona (wide left hander)
> I wonder why no one has suggested making Barcelona for GPL?
A street circuit like Monaco. Would probably be very hard to make, and
framerate would be bad (unless they solved that problem now).
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Calis schrieb:
Very interesting book to read! I got it from the library years ago. It's
a shame that they didn't have it anymore.
> 6. N.Ring: the jump (yes, even with aero!) between Pflanzgarten
> and Schwalbenschwanz. no need to translate why, I guess :)
> Niki also mentions that Mike Hailwoods' career ended here in 1974 :(
What happened to him?
> 9. Watkins Glen: (different to GPL version?) the left kink to the Bridge,
> where
> Francois Cevert made his last mistake when he took it just a bit too far to the left :(
IMO it wasn't a drivers error but a mechanical failure on his Tyrrell.
BTW: Do you got any F1-Videos from the old days (70ties, 80ties -
recorded from ORF perhaps)?
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> > markgame <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > 95emh9$4u6$[email hidden]... > > Anyone else like to post what is their toughest corner and why? > > Ok, here is what Niki Lauda wrote in his book > "Formel 1 - Technik und Praxis des Grand-Prix_Sports" in 1975 > - well written book (in german), but most probably out of print.On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:14:11 +0100, Lutz Goerke
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>BTW: Do you got any F1-Videos from the old days (70ties, 80ties -
>recorded from ORF perhaps)?
Check out: http://www.thef1files.com/
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> While I was in the US last year one week as the USGP approached a promo > supplement to introduce F1 to the mass US audience came with my > newspaper. It described the difference between standard US oval racing > and F1 as being that F1 was "road racing" and tried to emulate normal > driving conditions "and therefore has right as well as left turns". > > > In article <sODe6.25895$[email hidden]>, > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: > > With out a doubt!! It has to be turning right on all the lefthand > > turned ovals <BG>......Cheers Thom_j. > > > > > My toughest corner in GPL? There are so many!! > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/
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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:14:11 +0100, Lutz Goerke > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >BTW: Do you got any F1-Videos from the old days (70ties, 80ties - > >recorded from ORF perhaps)? > > Check out: http://www.thef1files.com/ > > > > > /Magnus > GPLRank hcp: -40.33>"Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote
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