F1RC Demo---Fantastic

I think I may have finally found the sim I've been waiting for. As much as I like GP3 and F1CS2000, I'll be able to delete them from my hard drive tonight. This is definitely beta code though (IMO) and IT IS very common for developers to release demos (despite what some might say) with beta code if they want the demo out before the release of the full game. Graphics are absolutely stunning and run very smoothly (common for Ubi Soft games). Also, there is no fisheye effect (which I don't like) and you can really tell where you are on the track unlike some other sims. GP3 and GPL does this well too. F1CS seemed to me like it had too much of the fisheye effect. Sound is poor. I had to turn the treble down all the way just to be able to get the engine sound to an acceptable level. I'm sure this will change in the final version. Controller setup and performance is excellent. I really like the way the steering feels with this sim. Throttle response is excellent and smooth, and steering is precise and smooth as well. PHYSICS.......feel excellent. Similiar to F1CS only better. Less understeer and definitely more difficult even though anti-lock brakes and no-skid were enabled at 40% on pro level. There is an expert level which is not available in the demo. As is, try going full throttle through Eau Rouge. I doubt too many people will be able. I also like the wheel spin you can get in third gear. Sticky at high speeds, and very twitchy at low speeds if your not careful with the throttle. It just feels "right" to me. I'd write more but I'm tired and it's 2:30a.m. I'll bicker with some of you tomorrow. :-) David G Fisher

BTW, based on comparison still shots and video footage, track accuracy in this sim may be second to none. David G Fisher "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mBsf6.32998$[email hidden]... > I think I may have finally found the sim I've been waiting for. As much asI > like GP3 and F1CS2000, I'll be able to delete them from my hard drive > tonight. This is definitely beta code though (IMO) and IT IS very commonfor > developers to release demos (despite what some might say) with beta codeif > they want the demo out before the release of the full game. > > Graphics are absolutely stunning and run very smoothly (common for UbiSoft > games). Also, there is no fisheye effect (which I don't like) and you can > really tell where you are on the track unlike some other sims. GP3 and GPL > does this well too. F1CS seemed to me like it had too much of the fisheye > effect. > > Sound is poor. I had to turn the treble down all the way just to be ableto > get the engine sound to an acceptable level. I'm sure this will change in > the final version. > > Controller setup and performance is excellent. I really like the way the > steering feels with this sim. Throttle response is excellent and smooth,and > steering is precise and smooth as well. > > PHYSICS.......feel excellent. Similiar to F1CS only better. Lessundersteer > and definitely more difficult even though anti-lock brakes and no-skidwere > enabled at 40% on pro level. There is an expert level which is notavailable > in the demo. As is, try going full throttle through Eau Rouge. I doubt too > many people will be able. I also like the wheel spin you can get in third > gear. Sticky at high speeds, and very twitchy at low speeds if your not > careful with the throttle. It just feels "right" to me. > > I'd write more but I'm tired and it's 2:30a.m. I'll bicker with some ofyou > tomorrow. :-) > > David G Fisher > > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > I think I may have finally found the sim I've been waiting for. Good for you. I would also love to find my perfect modern F1 sim. GP2 was as close to it when it was released, but every other (including F1RC) failed miserably to my eyes. Still, don't expect that we all like it. It's obvious the taste of the majority in this NG are very different then yours, and over the years you have never accepted the fact. > Graphics are absolutely stunning and run very smoothly (common for UbiSoft > games). Also, there is no fisheye effect (which I don't like) and you can > really tell where you are on the track unlike some other sims. GP3 and GPL > does this well too. Whoa DGF actually writing something that make sense? ;-) It's obvious that some game engines (and the direct relation to the artistic views and 2d/3d modeling) create much more realistic and vivid recreation of the terrain. > Controller setup and performance is excellent. I can't enable my pedals to work with it (either couldn't I in another version). >Throttle response is excellent and smooth Such thing is true, the game engine (which isn't totally new as it still based on the previous but heavily modified) has finally gave us a good feeling. It's still not enough for me, it's not enough hardcore to my eyes. I could also whine about the track realism, but we all know about me vs. that ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fNsf6.4902$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I think I may have finally found the sim I've been waiting for. > > > Good for you. I would also love to find my perfect modern F1 sim. GP2was > as close to it when it was released, but every other (including F1RC)failed > miserably to my eyes. > > Still, don't expect that we all like it. It's obvious the taste of the > majority in this NG are very different then yours, and over the years you > have never accepted the fact. I assume that statement above means that my standards are lower than others here at r.a.s. What some have never seemed to understand is that my standards are actually much higher than most. No sim yet has come close to what I imagine as the ultimate sim. That's why I'm not overly critical when giving my opinions. I don't go overboard insisting that a sim is SO realsitic, and all others pale in comparison (like certain fans of a certain sim often do) because to me, that viewpoint is ridiculous. I've accepted the fact that there's a long way to go before a sim blows me away with it's realism. In the meantime, I try to enjoy what is available. If I can't do that then I'll have to just give up the hobby alltogether which would be kind of ridiculous. Trying to label me as someone who can't comprehend what the "hard-core" here at r.a.s. consider a true sim is silly. David G Fisher

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:06:10 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> Still, don't expect that we all like it. It's obvious the taste of the >> majority in this NG are very different then yours, and over the years you >> have never accepted the fact. >What some have never seemed to understand is that my >standards are actually much higher than most. No sim yet has come close to >what I imagine as the ultimate sim. That's why I'm not overly critical when

<sniip> >kind of ridiculous. Trying to label me as someone who can't comprehend what >the "hard-core" here at r.a.s. consider a true sim is silly. > >David G Fisher I think your enthousiasm about 4x4 Offroad and your disliking of GPL is saying enough here. No problem if you like 4x4, but this is about -sim- racing, and 4x4 Offroad is as far from a sim as you can imagine. And now you are stating that your standards are much higher than most... You're funny :) Anyway, back to the topic, the F1RC demo. - Graphics are the best so far for an F1 game. Very detailed, tracks seem -spot on- (really Frank), the car and especially the tires look superb, cockpit is less impressive but still looks ok. Perfect fps on my - Sound: The WORST I ever heard! Gave me a headache after a couple of lacks. - Physics: First reaction was so-so, but I just had to get used to the controls a little bit. After I gave it some more time it's much better than I expected it to be. Better than GP3 (not that that is an achievement) but it seems to be on par with F1CS2000. Yet we can't say for sure untill we can drive on 100% realistic mode. So far, it seems to be a winner.. what I wonder, will this sim be editable like GPL and F1CS2000, I mean new graphics, sounds and track addons? Andre

Oh here we go again - all the old favourites crawling out of the woodwork! Actually Francois I think you'll find that most people on this ng (except for some of the hard core) over a long period of time agree with DGF - it's you who usually comes out with statements that are inflammatory and difficult to back up. Iain (I look forward to all the long threads when F1RC is actually released.) > Still, don't expect that we all like it. It's obvious the taste of the > majority in this NG are very different then yours, and over the years you > have never accepted the fact. >

> So far, it seems to be a winner.. what I wonder, will this sim be > editable like GPL and F1CS2000, I mean new graphics, sounds and track > addons? CART ? ... sorry i had to do it :o) -- Seb Game Developer GPLRank -39.48 http://magicfr.multimania.com

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Still, don't expect that we all like it. It's obvious the taste of the > > majority in this NG are very different then yours, and over the yearsyou > > have never accepted the fact. > > I assume that statement above means that my standards are lower thanothers > here at r.a.s. You assume wrong, I just stated that it's different. > That's why I'm not overly critical when > giving my opinions. Yet you praise in this newsgroup titles that are obviously not serious. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.