F1RC demo/Lwff/split axis

<Deja Vu> The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to evaluate the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator lift results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control config........If not I won't bother. DN

You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator? David G Fisher "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:53Kg6.307$[email hidden]... > <Deja Vu> > The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible toevaluate > the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accelleratorlift > results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control > config........If not I won't bother. > > DN > >

The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to put on full brakes Ash "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:53Kg6.307$[email hidden]... | <Deja Vu> | The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible toevaluate | the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accelleratorlift | results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control | config........If not I won't bother. | | DN | |

>"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to puton > full brakes Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

What's this ? I just downloaded the game ! If tthis is true I sure hope the fix this when the game comes in a final version. Did anyone actually get it to work with split axis at all ? scrcs "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OBQg6.6854$[email hidden]... > >"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems toput

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> on > > full brakes > > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

It may be a feature. It was for Psygnosis F1 a few years ago. -- [email hidden] "scrcs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:960olo$c0e$[email hidden]... > What's this ? I just downloaded the game ! If tthis is true I sure hope the > fix this when the game comes in a final version. > > Did anyone actually get it to work with split axis at all ? > > scrcs > > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OBQg6.6854$[email hidden]... > > >"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to > put > > on > > > full brakes > > > > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > > > >

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote >> The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to put >on >> full brakes > >Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on. The controller setup however..... No, I don't have a magic trick how to solve the problem. Just play around until it finally works.... :-( Remco

Y the reason it does that is cos split axis hasnt been implemented properly yet...brakes will automatically come on when the throttle has been lifted, if you have split the axis dom "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OBQg6.6854$[email hidden]... > >"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems toput

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> on > > full brakes > > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

Yup...what he said. I've got the MS non ff wheel........set the wheel properties to "combined" (ie, not split axis), and when you lift off the accelerator, the brakes wont come on. "Dom Duhan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96146k$4bj$[email hidden]... > Y the reason it does that is cos split axis hasnt been implementedproperly

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> yet...brakes will automatically come on when the throttle has been lifted, > if you have split the axis > > > dom > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OBQg6.6854$[email hidden]... > > >"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to > put > > on > > > full brakes > > > > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise

how > > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > > > >

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:14:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Remco Moedt) thus spoke: >Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed >about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good >actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on. >The controller setup however..... I just tried the demo yesterday and it felt to me like the car was raised a foot off the road. No feeling for the road at all. Lowering ABS and slide control won't fix that at all. -- Jagg

Yeah, instant brakes upon accellerator lift, I just ran a lap at Spa and didn't even touch the brake pedal. I just read where setting combined axes will correct that problem but it amazes me that there continues to be games released without split axes support. DN "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U_Lg6.41651$[email hidden]...

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> You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the > problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator? > > David G Fisher > > > "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:53Kg6.307$[email hidden]... > > <Deja Vu> > > The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to > evaluate > > the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator > lift > > results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control > > config........If not I won't bother. > > > > DN > > > > >

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> Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed > about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good > actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on. > The controller setup however..... > > No, I don't have a magic trick how to solve the problem. Just play > around until it finally works.... :-( > > Remco

Are your pedals configured to separate axes? DN

It does have split axis support. Something is wrong with the way the demo is working with your setup. It is a beta demo so it's not a surprise. Try the high Gear forums and see if anyone can help. www.simracingnews.com David G Fisher "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zj%g6.319$[email hidden]... > Yeah, instant brakes upon accellerator lift, I just ran a lap at Spa and > didn't even touch the brake pedal. I just read where setting combined axes > will correct that problem but it amazes me that there continues to begames

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> released without split axes support. > > DN > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:U_Lg6.41651$[email hidden]... > > You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the > > problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:53Kg6.307$[email hidden]... > > > <Deja Vu> > > > The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to > > evaluate > > > the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator > > lift > > > results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control > > > config........If not I won't bother. > > > > > > DN > > > > > > > > > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > It does have split axis support. Something is wrong with the way the demois > working with your setup. Your right about that. Here's my setup : Joystick 1 X-axis : Wheel Joystick 1 Y-axis : non-separate pedals Joystick 2 X-axis : CH pedals gas Joystick 2 Y-axis : CH pedals brake Anyway, saying that it does have split axis support doesn't mean it models correctly the usage of two pedals at the same time. F1RC is growing on me, but if they can fix that it won't be long installed. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed >> about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good >> actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on. >> The controller setup however..... >> >> No, I don't have a magic trick how to solve the problem. Just play >> around until it finally works.... :-( >Are your pedals configured to separate axes?

Yes, they are. Remco

[email hidden] (Jagg) wrote:

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>On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:14:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Remco Moedt) thus >spoke: > > >>Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed >>about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good >>actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on. >>The controller setup however..... > >I just tried the demo yesterday and it felt to me like the car was >raised a foot off the road. No feeling for the road at all. Lowering >ABS and slide control won't fix that at all.

Well, I'm not saying the physics are on par with GPL. It didn't feel as a boat to me, and I hope the release version, with no ABS and slide control, will have better physics as in the demo. But for now, I think F1RC is more fun then F12kCS or GP3. Remco

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:04:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Remco Moedt) thus spoke:

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>Well, I'm not saying the physics are on par with GPL. It didn't feel >as a boat to me, and I hope the release version, with no ABS and slide >control, will have better physics as in the demo. But for now, I think >F1RC is more fun then F12kCS or GP3. > >Remco > >

We will see when it is released. But for me right now, F12KCS is still the best choice. -- Jagg

spoke: We will see when it is released. But for me right now, F12KCS is still the best choice. -- Jagg