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Answer from Sierra about problems with Nascar 4 not starting

17 posts by 11 people · 10 Feb 2001 00:35 UTC - 14 Feb 2001 05:07 UTC

David Hearn 10 Feb 2001 00:35 UTC#205355
Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM drives. Maybe it will help some of you. David Hearn -------------------------------------------- Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start SUGGESTED SOLUTION: At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the maintenance suite software packages. Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying this upgrade. The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware current and to fine tune performance. To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as the CD ROM: Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. Double-click the System icon. Click the Device Manager tab. Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed device. Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the icon of the listed device. Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. Update the sound and video drivers Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. For further information on how to update the Video and Sound drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific hardware Mfg. *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation of the controller. To disable the gameport: Right-click on My Computer. Left-click on Properties. Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers Click on the sound card. Click on Properties. Click on Settings. Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. Click on OK. Start the game. If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the DISABLE selection. If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the gameport, do the following: First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be indicated on the TASKBAR. Now, re-enable the gameport: Right-click on My Computer. Left-click on Properties. Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers Click on the sound card. Click on Properties. Click on Settings. Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. Click on OK. Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR.
Sure am glad there is an easy fix for something that should work out of the box...... "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (121 lines)> Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > current and to fine tune performance. > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > the CD ROM: > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > Double-click the System icon. > Click the Device Manager tab. > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > icon of the listed device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Update the sound and video drivers > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > hardware Mfg. > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > of the controller. > > To disable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > Start the game. > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > DISABLE selection. > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > gameport, do the following: > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > >
good grief! David Hearn <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (121 lines)> Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > current and to fine tune performance. > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > the CD ROM: > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > Double-click the System icon. > Click the Device Manager tab. > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > icon of the listed device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Update the sound and video drivers > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > hardware Mfg. > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > of the controller. > > To disable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > Start the game. > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > DISABLE selection. > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > gameport, do the following: > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > >
Glad to see they are on top of it and looking for ways to fix the problem. -- Mike Grandy Precision Racing www.precision-racing.com "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]... > Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > current and to fine tune performance. > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > the CD ROM: > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > Double-click the System icon. > Click the Device Manager tab. > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > icon of the listed device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Update the sound and video drivers > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > hardware Mfg. > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > of the controller. > > To disable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > Start the game. > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > DISABLE selection. > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > gameport, do the following: > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > >
From the SecureRom website(below), boy, the 0.01% you out there sure whine a lot.... ;-) "Compatible: Unlike other systems on the market SecuROMT does not employ unreadable sectors (C2 errors) on the disc to create an electronic keycode. Due to its highly advanced digital signature (keycode) SecuROMT is offering an unmatched high compatibility rate (> 99,9 %) with all CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives on the market to save you from costly consumer calls to your tech support helpline. " -- Dan Wiggins Austin, TX [email hidden] "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]... > Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > <snip>
Uhh, that would be .1%.... -- Dan Wiggins Austin, TX [email hidden] "Dan Wiggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:f93h6.13535$[email hidden]... > From the SecureRom website(below), boy, the 0.01% you out there sure whine a > lot.... ;-) > > "Compatible: > Unlike other systems on the market SecuROMT does not employ > unreadable sectors (C2 errors) on the disc to create an electronic keycode. > Due to its highly advanced digital signature (keycode) SecuROMT is offering > an unmatched high compatibility rate (> 99,9 %) with all CD-ROM and DVD-ROM > drives on the market to save you from costly consumer calls to your tech > support helpline. " > > > > -- > Dan Wiggins > Austin, TX > [email hidden] > > "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]... > > Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > > > David Hearn > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > > maintenance suite software packages. > > > > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > > this upgrade. > > <snip> > >
David, Thanks for the info. You know, that 2-pager could be reduced to one line: 1. Sierra removes stupid copy protection that doesn't protect anything anyway. -Larry "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (121 lines)> Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > current and to fine tune performance. > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > the CD ROM: > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > Double-click the System icon. > Click the Device Manager tab. > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > icon of the listed device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Update the sound and video drivers > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > hardware Mfg. > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > of the controller. > > To disable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > Start the game. > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > DISABLE selection. > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > gameport, do the following: > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > >
And CloneCD makes perfect copies, too :) Mine is now safely back in the box on the shelf, and I'm using the copy I made. -Larry "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:08:43 GMT, "Dan Wiggins"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > >From the SecureRom website(below), boy, the 0.01% you out there surewhine a > >lot.... ;-) > > > >"Compatible: > >Unlike other systems on the market SecuROMT does not employ > >unreadable sectors (C2 errors) on the disc to create an electronickeycode. > >Due to its highly advanced digital signature (keycode) SecuROMT isoffering > >an unmatched high compatibility rate (> 99,9 %) with all CD-ROM andDVD-ROM
Quoted text (10 lines)> >drives on the market to save you from costly consumer calls to your tech > >support helpline. " > > The funny part of all this high-technology SecuROM crap is that > the No-CD crack as well as the W***Z version was released > within hours of N4 hitting the shelves. > > I guess it would deter those casual copiers who don't get on > the newsgroups much. >
So soundcard drivers and video card drivers will effect whether you can read files from the CD-Rom? Sounds like a marvelous system there :-) -- [email hidden] "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]... > Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received from > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > David Hearn > > -------------------------------------------- > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > maintenance suite software packages. > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > this upgrade. > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > current and to fine tune performance. > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > the CD ROM: > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > Double-click the System icon. > Click the Device Manager tab. > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > icon of the listed device. > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Update the sound and video drivers > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > hardware Mfg. > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > of the controller. > > To disable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > Start the game. > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > DISABLE selection. > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > gameport, do the following: > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > Right-click on My Computer. > Left-click on Properties. > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > Click on the sound card. > Click on Properties. > Click on Settings. > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > Click on OK. > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > >
The last time I saw "help" that was this complicated was the advice offered by Zipper and Microsoft on how to get Crimson Skies to load. Nothing quite like having to flash the BIOS in order to get past the splash screen..... On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:05:18 GMT, "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>Oh really? > >So when do I have time to go to work. > >What a bunch of hogwash. There's no way we should have to deal with this >convuluted work around. > >Alanb > >
Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> The last time I saw "help" that was this > complicated was the advice offered by Zipper and > Microsoft on how to get Crimson Skies to load. > Nothing quite like having to flash the BIOS in > order to get past the splash screen..... > > On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:05:18 GMT, "Alan Bernardo" > <[email hidden]> wrote: >
Actually the process is not as Sierra describes it, at least not as difficult. I wonder who writes these things? Here they screw things up and then like a bunch of buffoons they compose a fix that by their estimation takes longer than it should. First, you do not need to be in 640x480 resolution: any will do. Second, you don't have to be in Direct 3D mode: OpenGl will do. Just disable the joystick port, start the game, atl-tab out, re-enable the port, go back in, select "direct input" (the one at the bottom-- not sure what it's called), calibrate wheel, and you're all set. I wasn't able to calibrate wheel when I had the top button selected. Despite this, we shouldn't have to do all this crap and a fix is warranted. Alanb
No, that's just the currently 'corporate approved' canned response. Like most of these, it won't actually address the problem. It just gets the user off the phone. -Larry "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cTbh6.84378$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> So soundcard drivers and video card drivers will effect whether > you can read files from the CD-Rom? Sounds like a marvelous > system there :-) > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9622eb$59q$[email hidden]... > > Just thought you guys might be interested in a reply that I received
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Quoted text (122 lines)> > Sierra today about the problems with Nascar 4 and some CDROM and DVDROM > > drives. Maybe it will help some of you. > > > > David Hearn > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > Summary: Can't play Nascar 4. Won't start > > > > SUGGESTED SOLUTION: > > At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are > > having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy > > protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Specifically the > > issues are with the CD-ROM drive, sound card, and some of the > > maintenance suite software packages. > > > > > > Some manufacturers, such as Kenwood, have resolved this issue with > > firmware upgrades for the CD-ROM drive. Contact either the computer > > or CD-ROM Mfg. for the firmware upgrade and instructions on applying > > this upgrade. > > > > The Hourglass problem can also result from conflicts with outdated > > or incompatible driver software for the sound or video card. Always > > be sure that the computer has the latest drivers for the video card > > and sound card. Drivers are frequently updated to keep the hardware > > current and to fine tune performance. > > To find the brand and model of the sound and video cards as well as > > the CD ROM: > > Click the Start button, choose Settings, and then Control Panel. > > Double-click the System icon. > > Click the Device Manager tab. > > Double-click the Display Adapters icon, then the icon of the listed > > device. > > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > Double-click the Sound, video and game controllers icon then the > > icon of the listed device. > > Make a note of the name and manufacturer of the device. > > > > Update the sound and video drivers > > Driver software is generally available for free as a download on the > > Web site of the card manufacturer. The particular Web site can be > > located by a Web search, although domain names are often the name of > > the manufacturer itself (just as Sierra On-Line is found at > > www.sierra.com). There are also general driver sites such as > > http://www.windrivers.com and http://www.driverzone.com. > > > > When a driver file is found that is the latest for the particular > > model of card, select it for download. A window will come up asking > > what to do with the file; select Save it to disk. Find a place on > > your hard drive to download the driver software; be sure to create a > > new folder to contain the driver software. After the download, go > > into the driver software folder in the hard drive and double-click > > on the executable to extract the other files. There will be at least > > one README file with instructions on how to install the drivers. > > These directions are brief, and relatively simple to follow, but are > > extremely precise, so read and follow the instructions carefully. > > > > For further information on how to update the Video and Sound > > drivers, please contact the Mfg. of the computer or the specific > > hardware Mfg. > > *NOTE* Users with the Creative PCI64 should download the latest > > PCI64 drivers from Creative Labs Support. > > > > The Hourglass issue may also be caused by the joystick port settings > > on some soundcards conflicting with the copy protection software. > > Please follow the instructions below to disable the joystick port. > > ****NOTE**** disabling the gameport will render any device connected > > to the gameport (sound card) inoperable. As the device is necessary > > for use with NASCAR 4, we have developed a work-around to re-enable > > the device once the game has started. If your controller connects to > > the USB port, disabling the gameport will not affect the operation > > of the controller. > > > > To disable the gameport: > > > > Right-click on My Computer. > > Left-click on Properties. > > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > > Click on the sound card. > > Click on Properties. > > Click on Settings. > > Put a check in the disable Joystick port box. > > Click on OK. > > Start the game. > > > > If the game will not start, re-trace the steps above, but remove the > > DISABLE selection. > > > > If the game did start, but your controller is connected via the > > gameport, do the following: > > > > First, you must have set the video to run in Direct3D. If OpenGL was > > chosen it will be necessary to run CONFIGURE 3D GRAPHICS from the > > Main Menu. Select DIRECT3D as a renderer and click NEXT. Set the > > GRAPHICS MODE to 640x480x16 and click FINISH. > > > > Next, hold down the ALT key (on the keyboard) and, while continuing > > to hold down the ALT key, press the TAB key (on the keyboard). This > > will drop you out of the game. The game is still running and will be > > indicated on the TASKBAR. > > > > Now, re-enable the gameport: > > > > Right-click on My Computer. > > Left-click on Properties. > > Click the + next to Sound, Video, and Game Controllers > > Click on the sound card. > > Click on Properties. > > Click on Settings. > > Remove the check in the disable Joystick port box. > > Click on OK. > > > > Re-start the game by clicking N4.1.0.0.0 on the TASKBAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote: >SUGGESTED SOLUTION: >At 02/09/2001 10:49 AM we wrote - There are a few systems that are >having conflicts between some of their components and the new copy >protection software (SecuROM) used with this game. Damnit, when will people learn? The ONLY effect of copy protection is to inconvenience legitimate customers. It has been this way for twenty years. Why do they insist on inflicting this punishment on their customers? It has NO EFFECT on piracy whatsoever. Thank goodness for gamecopyworld. The crack will be up there in days if it isn't already. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: >I guess it would deter those casual copiers who don't get on >the newsgroups much. Seems to me the only thing it would deter them from doing is keeping the game. They'll return the flawed product to the store. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Joe62) writes: >Why do they insist on inflicting this punishment on their customers? >It has NO EFFECT on piracy whatsoever. Probably wrong. It has a huge positive effect on piracy. No cracker would be proud to present the first working warez - as long as the original has no protection.. I guess, half of the warez-sites wouldn't be there without cracker groups wanting to show off their skillz :) Calis
[email hidden] (Herbert Pohlai) wrote: >I guess, half of the warez-sites wouldn't be there >without cracker groups wanting to show off their skillz :) Good point! Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

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