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Won.Net - Here we go again?

6 posts by 3 people · 10 Feb 2001 09:22 UTC - 10 Feb 2001 23:58 UTC

Larry 10 Feb 2001 09:22 UTC#205258
Ok, once upon a time we had NROS. A nice little place for online racers to hang their hats (and heads, depending on how the night went :) ). Then, deciding that making money was a bad thing, the hosting company, decided to go 'free' and renamed themselves Pogo.Net. They also dropped NROS, and our hat-rack went away. Then comes Won.Net. Not NROS, but at least it was online racing. We got used to it. Along comes N4, probably the most important racing simulator (ok, maybe second to GPL - Leave me alone!) to come along, ever. We even have rankings again! But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gaming site based mainly on free online games. Are we in trouble again? I have to wonder, especially since all of the Won.Net links they provide are DEAD! -Larry
ymenard 10 Feb 2001 10:38 UTC↳ reply to Larry#205276
>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > Then, deciding that making money was a bad thing The Total Entertainment Network was loosing tons of money with the NROS. This changes totally your point, as it wasn't really a good thing business-wise. They had to change their philosophy because they were in deep trouble. Do you see much of those pay-to-play network anymore? With MPlayer, MSN Zone, Sony Station, TEN just couldn't cope up with the others. Hardly any publicity, they had to rely totally on their small number of consumers, which anyway was 75% made of simracers. > But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gaming site > based mainly on free online games. Flipside = Won. Won had all those free online games. Just wait until they put up the real website and all the stuff. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Larry 10 Feb 2001 11:36 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#205194
Points taken. However, 'change' in this area has never worked out to our advantage, yet :) -Larry BTW... I know TEN lost money on NROS. To this day, I still do not see HOW this was possible. I would love to see the balance sheet these people had. I'm no business major, but I am fairly confident I could have figured out why it wasn't making money and how to fix it. -Larry "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wS8h6.8713$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Then, deciding that making money was a bad thing > > The Total Entertainment Network was loosing tons of money with the NROS. > This changes totally your point, as it wasn't really a good thing > business-wise. They had to change their philosophy because they were in > deep trouble. Do you see much of those pay-to-play network anymore? With > MPlayer, MSN Zone, Sony Station, TEN just couldn't cope up with the
others. > Hardly any publicity, they had to rely totally on their small number of > consumers, which anyway was 75% made of simracers. > > > > But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gamingsite > > based mainly on free online games. > > Flipside = Won. Won had all those free online games. Just wait untilthey
Quoted text (14 lines)> put up the real website and all the stuff. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KL7h6.57387$[email hidden]... [history lesson snipped] > But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gamingsite > based mainly on free online games. > Are we in trouble again? Flipside.com recently had a BIG fallout with Interplay due to Starfleet Command 2. Apparently Flipside.com backed out of a deal with Interplay to provide play servers AFTER the game has gone gold. Interplay eventually set up their own servers, but the damage was already done. All my manuals on SFC2 still says Flipside.com and all that. --KC
This is the sort of thing that worries me:( -Larry "Kasey Chang (use EXCITE.COM instead!)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cMeh6.11$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (26 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KL7h6.57387$[email hidden]... > [history lesson snipped] > > But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gaming > site > > based mainly on free online games. > > > Are we in trouble again? > > Flipside.com recently had a BIG fallout with Interplay due to Starfleet > Command 2. > Apparently Flipside.com backed out of a deal with Interplay to provide > play servers > AFTER the game has gone gold. Interplay eventually set up their own > servers, but > the damage was already done. All my manuals on SFC2 still says > Flipside.com and > all that. > > --KC > > > > >
Larry 10 Feb 2001 23:58 UTC↳ reply to Larry#205050
Oh, I was meaning to mention this but forgot to. This is a VERY good reason for IRF to continue to live, IMHO. Just because we have an 'official' method of online racing doesn't mean that we don't need an alternative method. I personally hope that the author of IRF keeps updating it and fixes it up to work with the release version of N4. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dskh6.61864$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (34 lines)> This is the sort of thing that worries me:( > > -Larry > > "Kasey Chang (use EXCITE.COM instead!)" <[email hidden]> wrote in > message news:cMeh6.11$[email hidden]... > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:KL7h6.57387$[email hidden]... > > [history lesson snipped] > > > But, wait! Now, Won.Net has become Flipside.com, yet ANOTHER gaming > > site > > > based mainly on free online games. > > > > > Are we in trouble again? > > > > Flipside.com recently had a BIG fallout with Interplay due to Starfleet > > Command 2. > > Apparently Flipside.com backed out of a deal with Interplay to provide > > play servers > > AFTER the game has gone gold. Interplay eventually set up their own > > servers, but > > the damage was already done. All my manuals on SFC2 still says > > Flipside.com and > > all that. > > > > --KC > > > > > > > > > > > >

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