Nascar4 sounds

I am having a wierd problem with N4. I seem to have static or very poor qulaity sounds being played. Its mostly the engine sounds but when the spotter breaks in or there is about to be something happening that would be a sound bit the graphics seem to skip a frame or two though the average reamins high it makes me over correct. I have an SBlive value Duron 700 256 meg ram if any of it actually makes a difference, has anyone else experiuanced this or have some ideas? thanks ed

Although not quite the same thing, I notice that when I get on the grass or an accident happens, the sound seems to distort something terrible. Any suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated I have an SBLive soundcard P3 600 256 megs ram geforce 256 (32 meg) Thanks Mike

Ed.... The sound card tech sites.....and the motherboard tech sites are pretty much swamped with information about the SB Live sound cards....all models. The problem you are having seems to be the same issue most of us SB Live sound card users have had for around a year or so now. The "fix" is somewhat technical.....if you built your own system you'll have the "skills" to do the fix for this yourself (maybe). Email me and I'll give it to you. If you didn't, your best bet is to call Creative Tech Support...and have them talk you through a complete re-installation of your SB Live sound card. The "problems"....characterized by distored sound in many "games" is because the SB Live sound card only works properly on certain IRQ's and in certain configurations and must always reside by itself on an IRQ setting (no IRQ sharing, except with PCI Bus Steering). That varies with the mobo/cpu platform......its not a "cut and dry" issue. Also, with many of AMD/mobo platforms, the mobo's are late model units and no longer contain ISA slots. This could the case with you.....looking at your "specs" (always include your ops sys and DX version when giving computer specifications by the way.......these are often more important than what cpu you have, ok?). If your mobo does not have any ISA slots....then you have an added problem to go along with the one I mention above. That is: The SB Live sound card series actually needs two IRQ assignments, one for the SB Live "package" and one for the SB 16 Emulation (dos driver). The SB 16 Emulation requires that you "reserve resources for Legacy" in your system BIOS for the SB 16 Emulation IRQ.....or this choppy, scratchy, distorted sound problem is excacerbated. Also, to further create a mess for SB Live sound card users......if you have installed Windows98 with ACPI enabled (which would be the case if you, A. didn't know about this problem, or B. purchased your computer from a standard manufacturer like Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.)....then you should just be lucky your SB Live card even works at all. Even with all the "fixes" above....if you are using Win98 or Win98SE...and have ACPI enabled.....you SB Live card will not work properly, cause system crashes and "hangs".....lots of "blue screens of death" as you often see them referred to (usually these are "page fault" errors that crash your system, rather than generate the standard Windows Page Fault error dialogue). There is no "fix" for this ACPI problem.....at least there is no "known" fix......and the "problems" are so varied it is very difficult to pin them down to an ACPI "issue".....most people don't relate the random problems they have with their computers to this single source......but indeed, that is usually the case. The only way this issue can be resolved is to do a complete "fdisk, reformat C...and re-install Win98 or Win98SE and "disabled" or turn off ACPI (in favor of APM) in the installation process. Depending on what version of Win98/SE you have to install....you may or may not be given this "option" during the install process. Therefore, you have to use an "install flag" on the Win98SE to turn off ACPI. If you want to make a check to see if this is your problem (likely....but not certain).....and if the hour or so telephone call with Creative Tech Support (after waiting to get a tech support person on the phone with you)....is worth the trouble and WILL solve your problem....you can do the following: Go into your System Information, choose Hardware and select IRQ settings list. If your "SB 16 Emulation" and/or the "Creative SB Live Series" entries share the assigned IRQ with any other device (except PCI Steering...which is "ok")...then having Creative Tech Support talk you through a clean re-installation of the SB Live sound card....assigned to the proper IRQ's is well worth the time and effort. This may also eliminate or reduce the ACPI problems associated with it....but not guaranteed (its maybe a 50/50 chance). In addition to checking for IRQ sharing....if those two SB entries are on any IRQ other than 5, 7 or 9.......the phone call is worth it even if they are not "sharing"....since those are the IRQ's that the SB Live sound cards "like".....anything else may cause problems anyway. By the way, if you happen to mention this ACPI problem to the Creative Tech Support person.....if he/she is going by the "company book" they'll claim to not know what your are talking about. If the person is a "good guy"....maybe he'll let you know where they stand at the moment on fixing this issue. I have had both experiences....depends on the tech support person you get. I hope this is helpful information. I know I've not given you a "fix".....but its too complicated to write out in an email message, especially not knowing your "computer tech" knowledge and comfort level. To "others" reading this post.....if you have an SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer.....or the full-blown series of the card, the "Platinum" version....these "issues" are even more prevalent than with the "Value" cards. Again, unless you've built your own computers, are comfortable editing your BIOS, system registry and so forth.....you must call Creative Tech Support. Regards, Tom "Ed Kloskowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:967l91$uq0$[email hidden]... > I am having a wierd problem with N4. > > I seem to have static or very poor qulaity sounds being played. Itsmostly

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> the engine sounds but when the spotter breaks in or there is about to be > something happening that would be a sound bit the graphics seem to skip a > frame or two though the average reamins high it makes me over correct. > > I have an SBlive value > Duron 700 > 256 meg ram > > if any of it actually makes a difference, has anyone else experiuanced

this > or have some ideas? > > thanks > ed > >

Woah!!! I was told that upgrading to the SB Live card from my AWE 64 would help me out. You mean I could be walking into trouble with this upgrade??? Tom Pabst wrote:

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> Ed.... > > The sound card tech sites.....and the motherboard tech sites are pretty much > swamped with information about the SB Live sound cards....all models. > > The problem you are having seems to be the same issue most of us SB Live > sound card users have had for around a year or so now. The "fix" is > somewhat technical.....if you built your own system you'll have the "skills" > to do the fix for this yourself (maybe). Email me and I'll give it to you. > If you didn't, your best bet is to call Creative Tech Support...and have > them talk you through a complete re-installation of your SB Live sound card. >

Tom! Calm down, man--you're sounding hysterical. I've installed 4 SBL! cards 6 times (moved 2 twice) on both P2/3 and K7 CPUs, on mobos w & w/o legacy ISA slots, altho never w. SB16 support (who plays DOS games anymore?), and the only problems I've ever had were cured with the latest drivers, or, in 2 instances (before I knew better), moving the sound card away from the AGP slot. Take it easy; you'll blow a gasket at this rate.... --Steve Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WNVh6.86267$[email hidden]... > Ed.... > > The sound card tech sites.....and the motherboard tech sites are prettymuch > swamped with information about the SB Live sound cards....all models. > > The problem you are having seems to be the same issue most of us SB Live > sound card users have had for around a year or so now. The "fix" is > somewhat technical.....if you built your own system you'll have the"skills" > to do the fix for this yourself (maybe). Email me and I'll give it toyou. > If you didn't, your best bet is to call Creative Tech Support...and have > them talk you through a complete re-installation of your SB Live soundcard. > > The "problems"....characterized by distored sound in many "games" isbecause > the SB Live sound card only works properly on certain IRQ's and in certain > configurations and must always reside by itself on an IRQ setting (no IRQ > sharing, except with PCI Bus Steering). That varies with the mobo/cpu > platform......its not a "cut and dry" issue. Also, with many of AMD/mobo > platforms, the mobo's are late model units and no longer contain ISAslots. > This could the case with you.....looking at your "specs" (always include > your ops sys and DX version when giving computer specifications by the > way.......these are often more important than what cpu you have, ok?). If > your mobo does not have any ISA slots....then you have an added problem to > go along with the one I mention above. That is: The SB Live sound card > series actually needs two IRQ assignments, one for the SB Live "package"and > one for the SB 16 Emulation (dos driver). The SB 16 Emulation requires > that you "reserve resources for Legacy" in your system BIOS for the SB 16 > Emulation IRQ.....or this choppy, scratchy, distorted sound problem is > excacerbated. > > Also, to further create a mess for SB Live sound card users......if youhave > installed Windows98 with ACPI enabled (which would be the case if you, A. > didn't know about this problem, or B. purchased your computer from a > standard manufacturer like Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.)....then you should just > be lucky your SB Live card even works at all. Even with all the "fixes" > above....if you are using Win98 or Win98SE...and have ACPIenabled.....you > SB Live card will not work properly, cause system crashes and > "hangs".....lots of "blue screens of death" as you often see them referred > to (usually these are "page fault" errors that crash your system, rather > than generate the standard Windows Page Fault error dialogue). There isno > "fix" for this ACPI problem.....at least there is no "known" fix......and > the "problems" are so varied it is very difficult to pin them down to an > ACPI "issue".....most people don't relate the random problems they havewith > their computers to this single source......but indeed, that is usually the > case. The only way this issue can be resolved is to do a complete "fdisk, > reformat C...and re-install Win98 or Win98SE and "disabled" or turn offACPI > (in favor of APM) in the installation process. Depending on what versionof > Win98/SE you have to install....you may or may not be given this "option" > during the install process. Therefore, you have to use an "install flag"on

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> the Win98SE to turn off ACPI. > > If you want to make a check to see if this is your problem (likely....but > not certain).....and if the hour or so telephone call with Creative Tech > Support (after waiting to get a tech support person on the phone with > you)....is worth the trouble and WILL solve your problem....you can do the > following: Go into your System Information, choose Hardware and select

IRQ > settings list. If your "SB 16 Emulation" and/or the "Creative SB Live > Series" entries share the assigned IRQ with any other device (except PCI > Steering...which is "ok")...then having Creative Tech Support talk you > through a clean re-installation of the SB Live sound card....assigned tothe > proper IRQ's is well worth the time and effort. This may also eliminateor > reduce the ACPI problems associated with it....but not guaranteed (itsmaybe > a 50/50 chance). In addition to checking for IRQ sharing....if those twoSB > entries are on any IRQ other than 5, 7 or 9.......the phone call is worthit > even if they are not "sharing"....since those are the IRQ's that the SBLive > sound cards "like".....anything else may cause problems anyway. > > By the way, if you happen to mention this ACPI problem to the CreativeTech > Support person.....if he/she is going by the "company book" they'll claimto

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> not know what your are talking about. If the person is a "good > guy"....maybe he'll let you know where they stand at the moment on fixing > this issue. I have had both experiences....depends on the tech support > person you get. > > I hope this is helpful information. I know I've not given you a > "fix".....but its too complicated to write out in an email message, > especially not knowing your "computer tech" knowledge and comfort level. > > To "others" reading this post.....if you have an SB Live 5.1

X-Gamer.....or > the full-blown series of the card, the "Platinum" version....these"issues" > are even more prevalent than with the "Value" cards. Again, unless you've > built your own computers, are comfortable editing your BIOS, systemregistry

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> and so forth.....you must call Creative Tech Support. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > > > "Ed Kloskowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:967l91$uq0$[email hidden]... > > I am having a wierd problem with N4. > > > > I seem to have static or very poor qulaity sounds being played. Its > mostly > > the engine sounds but when the spotter breaks in or there is about to be > > something happening that would be a sound bit the graphics seem to skip

a

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> > frame or two though the average reamins high it makes me over correct. > > > > I have an SBlive value > > Duron 700 > > 256 meg ram > > > > if any of it actually makes a difference, has anyone else experiuanced > this > > or have some ideas? > > > > thanks > > ed > > > > > >

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:18:30 GMT, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ed.... <SNIP> >are even more prevalent than with the "Value" cards. Again, unless you've >built your own computers, are comfortable editing your BIOS, system registry >and so forth.....you must call Creative Tech Support. Whoa Tom, you use a lot of words to tell someone to call Tech Support! ;) Andre

<SNIP> Whoa Tom, you use a lot of words to tell someone to call Tech Support! ;) Andre

Guys....I was trying to provide a comprehensive answer......I'm as calm as can be and have had no problems with SB Live cards for months now. When's the last time you called CL Tech Support.....better make sure you have plenty of food, supplies and cigs (if you smoke)....its a multi-hour process at the minimum. I don't recommend calling any tech support line without having good reasons....and I was trying to provide them. Keep in mind.....how you "read" the posts.....isn't exaclty how they may have been "typed." You know? Tom Pabst

Have you tried experimenting with your sound settings in N4? Ie, reduce the number heard, run eax instead of direct sound, tried it with 3d enabled and disabled? You might find a setting that clears it up for you. If none of that works, you might try reducing the hardware acceleration a notch for your Live card. -- Don Burnette "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Although not quite the same thing, I notice that when I get on the grass or an > accident happens, the sound seems to distort something terrible. Any > suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated > > I have an SBLive soundcard > P3 600 > 256 megs ram > geforce 256 (32 meg) > > Thanks > Mike

Speaking for me, I absolutely love my Live card. I have had it in my system a couple of years, and it pretty much rocks in all my sims/games. I wouldn't swap it for anything. For me, N4 - with this card and my Klipsch 4 speaker/sub setup, absolutely sounds incredible. -- Don Burnette "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Woah!!! I was told that upgrading to the SB Live card from my AWE 64 would help > me out. You mean I could be walking into trouble with this upgrade??? > > > Tom Pabst wrote: > > > Ed.... > > > > The sound card tech sites.....and the motherboard tech sites are pretty much > > swamped with information about the SB Live sound cards....all models. > > > > The problem you are having seems to be the same issue most of us SB Live > > sound card users have had for around a year or so now. The "fix" is > > somewhat technical.....if you built your own system you'll have the "skills" > > to do the fix for this yourself (maybe). Email me and I'll give it to you. > > If you didn't, your best bet is to call Creative Tech Support...and have > > them talk you through a complete re-installation of your SB Live sound card. > > >

I absolutely loathe having to call tech support for any manufacturer. I think for the most part all tech support are about the same. If I have a problem, I will do my dangest to try and solve it either through their faq's or the usenet. I can say though, I've had my Live card for a couple years now, and I have not had a single problem with it to cause me to need to search out for support for it. -- Don Burnette "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a2_h6.88638$[email hidden]... > Guys....I was trying to provide a comprehensive answer......I'm as calm as > can be and have had no problems with SB Live cards for months now. > When's the last time you called CL Tech Support.....better make sure you > have plenty of food, supplies and cigs (if you smoke)....its a multi-hour > process at the minimum. I don't recommend calling any tech support line > without having good reasons....and I was trying to provide them. > > Keep in mind.....how you "read" the posts.....isn't exaclty how they may > have been "typed." You know? > > Tom Pabst > >

Thanks Tom, I did build it myself and wen through the trouble of seeing that the LIVE was alone out there on PCI slot #3 (for the ASUS A7V) and that it had its own IRQs, but I may have to back and check as I never really did think about it much after it was built and I had sound.... ed "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WNVh6.86267$[email hidden]... > Ed.... > > The sound card tech sites.....and the motherboard tech sites are prettymuch > swamped with information about the SB Live sound cards....all models. > > The problem you are having seems to be the same issue most of us SB Live > sound card users have had for around a year or so now. The "fix" is > somewhat technical.....if you built your own system you'll have the"skills" > to do the fix for this yourself (maybe). Email me and I'll give it toyou. > If you didn't, your best bet is to call Creative Tech Support...and have > them talk you through a complete re-installation of your SB Live soundcard. > > The "problems"....characterized by distored sound in many "games" isbecause > the SB Live sound card only works properly on certain IRQ's and in certain > configurations and must always reside by itself on an IRQ setting (no IRQ > sharing, except with PCI Bus Steering). That varies with the mobo/cpu > platform......its not a "cut and dry" issue. Also, with many of AMD/mobo > platforms, the mobo's are late model units and no longer contain ISAslots. > This could the case with you.....looking at your "specs" (always include > your ops sys and DX version when giving computer specifications by the > way.......these are often more important than what cpu you have, ok?). If > your mobo does not have any ISA slots....then you have an added problem to > go along with the one I mention above. That is: The SB Live sound card > series actually needs two IRQ assignments, one for the SB Live "package"and > one for the SB 16 Emulation (dos driver). The SB 16 Emulation requires > that you "reserve resources for Legacy" in your system BIOS for the SB 16 > Emulation IRQ.....or this choppy, scratchy, distorted sound problem is > excacerbated. > > Also, to further create a mess for SB Live sound card users......if youhave > installed Windows98 with ACPI enabled (which would be the case if you, A. > didn't know about this problem, or B. purchased your computer from a > standard manufacturer like Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.)....then you should just > be lucky your SB Live card even works at all. Even with all the "fixes" > above....if you are using Win98 or Win98SE...and have ACPIenabled.....you > SB Live card will not work properly, cause system crashes and > "hangs".....lots of "blue screens of death" as you often see them referred > to (usually these are "page fault" errors that crash your system, rather > than generate the standard Windows Page Fault error dialogue). There isno > "fix" for this ACPI problem.....at least there is no "known" fix......and > the "problems" are so varied it is very difficult to pin them down to an > ACPI "issue".....most people don't relate the random problems they havewith > their computers to this single source......but indeed, that is usually the > case. The only way this issue can be resolved is to do a complete "fdisk, > reformat C...and re-install Win98 or Win98SE and "disabled" or turn offACPI > (in favor of APM) in the installation process. Depending on what versionof > Win98/SE you have to install....you may or may not be given this "option" > during the install process. Therefore, you have to use an "install flag"on

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> the Win98SE to turn off ACPI. > > If you want to make a check to see if this is your problem (likely....but > not certain).....and if the hour or so telephone call with Creative Tech > Support (after waiting to get a tech support person on the phone with > you)....is worth the trouble and WILL solve your problem....you can do the > following: Go into your System Information, choose Hardware and select

IRQ > settings list. If your "SB 16 Emulation" and/or the "Creative SB Live > Series" entries share the assigned IRQ with any other device (except PCI > Steering...which is "ok")...then having Creative Tech Support talk you > through a clean re-installation of the SB Live sound card....assigned tothe > proper IRQ's is well worth the time and effort. This may also eliminateor > reduce the ACPI problems associated with it....but not guaranteed (itsmaybe > a 50/50 chance). In addition to checking for IRQ sharing....if those twoSB > entries are on any IRQ other than 5, 7 or 9.......the phone call is worthit > even if they are not "sharing"....since those are the IRQ's that the SBLive > sound cards "like".....anything else may cause problems anyway. > > By the way, if you happen to mention this ACPI problem to the CreativeTech > Support person.....if he/she is going by the "company book" they'll claimto

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> not know what your are talking about. If the person is a "good > guy"....maybe he'll let you know where they stand at the moment on fixing > this issue. I have had both experiences....depends on the tech support > person you get. > > I hope this is helpful information. I know I've not given you a > "fix".....but its too complicated to write out in an email message, > especially not knowing your "computer tech" knowledge and comfort level. > > To "others" reading this post.....if you have an SB Live 5.1

X-Gamer.....or > the full-blown series of the card, the "Platinum" version....these"issues" > are even more prevalent than with the "Value" cards. Again, unless you've > built your own computers, are comfortable editing your BIOS, systemregistry

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> and so forth.....you must call Creative Tech Support. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > > > "Ed Kloskowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:967l91$uq0$[email hidden]... > > I am having a wierd problem with N4. > > > > I seem to have static or very poor qulaity sounds being played. Its > mostly > > the engine sounds but when the spotter breaks in or there is about to be > > something happening that would be a sound bit the graphics seem to skip

a

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> > frame or two though the average reamins high it makes me over correct. > > > > I have an SBlive value > > Duron 700 > > 256 meg ram > > > > if any of it actually makes a difference, has anyone else experiuanced > this > > or have some ideas? > > > > thanks > > ed > > > > > >

Don, You have the identical setup to mine.........Isn't life swell :) Todd On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:14:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Speaking for me, I absolutely love my Live card. I have had it in my system >a couple of years, and it pretty much rocks in all my sims/games. I wouldn't >swap it for anything. >For me, N4 - with this card and my Klipsch 4 speaker/sub setup, absolutely >sounds incredible.

:) Rocks don't it? -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Glockenspiel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don, > > You have the identical setup to mine.........Isn't life swell :) > > Todd > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:14:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Speaking for me, I absolutely love my Live card. I have had it in my system > >a couple of years, and it pretty much rocks in all my sims/games. I wouldn't > >swap it for anything. > >For me, N4 - with this card and my Klipsch 4 speaker/sub setup, absolutely > >sounds incredible. >