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GPLEA Track Creating Unleashed

24 posts by 17 people · 16 Feb 2001 22:54 UTC - 01 Mar 2001 05:51 UTC

Notable threadGPLEA releases Grand Prix Legends track-creation tutorials

Phil Flack announced the GPLEA's online guide and tools for creating new Grand Prix Legends tracks, with discussion hosted at Legends Central. Users praised the work and one reported building a driveable track in a weekend, while a concern that editors would undermine GPLRank was answered by noting the tools cannot edit encrypted existing tracks and that cheating was easier other ways. Other developers mentioned upcoming GPL utilities such as a lap record editor.

mods/tracks/carsrelease/newsGrand Prix Legends

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Phil Flack <[email hidden]> wrote on 16 Feb 2001: >http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ Oh well, and I was going to do some work this weekend too... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +287.91) The GPL Scrapyard - http://scrapyard.netcabins.com Earn (not very much) cash with "Ciao!" reviews - http://uk.ciao.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.
Wow...what an awesome resource. Hearty thanks to everyone who has poured countless hours into making the complex and tedious job of creating tracks easier. As someone who can work all this magic (them, not me!!), it is difficult to look beyond one's own sphere and see that in the long run this kind of selfless investment pays off with more tracks for all of us to enjoy. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marc. "Phil Flack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> ...quick and easy ways to lose all your social life, find it here: > > http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ > > If you have any questions, comments, ideas, please post them at the > GPLEA Track forum hosted at Legends Central: > > http://www.legendscentral.com/ > > Phil > GPLEA
Link to GPLFM is broken Web page for LPedit has broken link Legends Central is down. buzard "Phil Flack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> ...quick and easy ways to lose all your social life, find it here: > > http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ > > If you have any questions, comments, ideas, please post them at the > GPLEA Track forum hosted at Legends Central: > > http://www.legendscentral.com/ > > Phil > GPLEA
Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. Just my 2 cents, or pfenning -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League GPL Rank +32 something, who cares, people are cheating now http://members.nbci.com/zzbusch ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch? ----------------- Stressed is just Desserts backwards
Richard 17 Feb 2001 20:53 UTC#527756
Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. Just my 2 cents, or pfenning -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League GPL Rank +32 something, who cares, people are cheating now http://members.nbci.com/zzbusch ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch? ----------------- Stressed is just Desserts backwards
The tools cannot be used to edit existing tracks, unless you want to hack the encryption :) cheers, Phil Richard \"ZZ\" Busch wrote:
Quoted text (24 lines)> > Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to > their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot > point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, > thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. > > Just my 2 cents, or pfenning > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch > > Member: > Screamers Racing League > GPL Rank +32 something, who cares, people are cheating now > > http://members.nbci.com/zzbusch > ---------------- > Busch Motorsports: > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward > ----------------- > Busch Carpentry: > Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch? > ----------------- > Stressed is just Desserts backwards
Richard \"ZZ\" Busch wrote: > > Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to > their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot > point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, > thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. If people want to cheat on GPL Rank, there are much easier ways to go about it than modifying tracks and engines. I think that the track editor is a great idea, I'm sure it will give us a few more gems.
Quoted text (7 lines)> >Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to >their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot >point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, >thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. > >Just my 2 cents, or pfenning
Hells bells . . . If you wanna cheat on GPLRank, you could just edit the damn player.ini file! People smart enough to use the track editor (I hear it's very complex and I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole!) should be able to figure that much out . . . ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com
Actually Dan, I believe that would be a decimal 17456 long pole, as measured from the centerline of the track of course. ;-) markgame GPLRank +222 (damn 'Ring!) Dan Belcher <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Hells bells . . . If you wanna cheat on GPLRank, you could just edit thedamn > player.ini file! People smart enough to use the track editor (I hear it'svery > complex and I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole!) should be able tofigure
Quoted text (7 lines)> that much out . . . > > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher > Team Racing Unlimited > http://simcrash.00game.com >
In article <[email hidden]>, Phil Flack <[email hidden]> writes: > >http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ > Many thx, great work! FYI: The estimation of 2 days for getting something driveable was perfect for me. Did the tutorial on Saturday, and a simple track worked for 3 guys online on Sunday evening - and it was great fun to race my own creation :) (Please dont ask for the track until 2 years are over.. - the estimation for doing something great ;) The 2 things most missing in the tutorial (for me): (no need to answer here in r.a.s., I'll find out or check the forum) How do I get the starter and guys with the flags in place? How do I create a brake marker (starting with a simple picture) and place it on the track? Ok, maybe both questions are covered somewhere (sure, markers are trackside objects - or is there an easier way?), but step by step would be nice - a simple marker should be adequate for a tutorial, and you really need 'em ;) (but: once these questions are covered, the next most needed things will pop up - never ending story.. ;) And this encryption :( oh well! I really would like to see how some parts of the original tracks are done to learn how to do similar things.. The Monza curbs (did they do it with traces and altitudes? or with a simple wall with height? or with flags? or.. ? The trees on the ring where you can crash into... - doh - so many things I could learn! Maybe you can make small pieces of 3rd party tracks available as full fledged examples to look at? Calis
In article <6xBj6.64211$%[email hidden]>, "Richard \"ZZ\" Busch" <[email hidden]> writes: >Is releasing a track editor a good idea? Now people can change tracks to >their liking as well as change their engines. Sort of makes GPL Rank a moot >point if people change a track and then a engine, then set a fast time, >thereby lowing their rank. I think it may not have been a good idea. Hmm.. before reading this message, I planned to work on a track tomorrow, but now I just want to edit my player.ini to prove that there are simpler ways to cheat :( (hmm... sending in that warped 0:02.59 second lap for IMS would probably not go unnoticed ;) Are there still ppl out who believe that GPLrank can make sense without lots of honest participants?? Calis
That fits nicely to the GPL PerfEd (Performance Editor) I'm working on. Should be ready very soon. JensSchumi On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:24:58 +0100, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)>"Phil Flack" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >news:[email hidden]... > >> ...quick and easy ways to lose all your social life, find it here: >> http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ > >Very well done, mates! >TrkCAMEdit will also go online soon. >Thank you all! > >Best regards >Crash
--------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -8.3
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:56:30 GMT, [email hidden] (JS) wrote: >That fits nicely to the GPL PerfEd (Performance Editor) I'm working on. >Should be ready very soon. What does this utility do? Andre
Quoted text (25 lines)> >JensSchumi > > >On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:24:58 +0100, "Joachim Blum" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>"Phil Flack" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>news:[email hidden]... >> >>> ...quick and easy ways to lose all your social life, find it here: >>> http://home.online.no/~bi-knu/editing/ >> >>Very well done, mates! >>TrkCAMEdit will also go online soon. >>Thank you all! >> >>Best regards >>Crash > >--------------------------------------------- >LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: >http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > >GPLRank: -8.3
JS <[email hidden]> wrote: > That fits nicely to the GPL PerfEd (Performance Editor) I'm working on. > Should be ready very soon. Hey, that's cool. When I get my in-progress LRE (Lap Record Editor) ready, we'll have a great array of GPL editors in our hands. +Cinquo
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:02:27 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Edit performance? -Just a guess. ;-) Duh :) What performance are we talking about here? Andre
Quoted text (10 lines)> >Jan. >=--- >Andre Warringa wrote... >> <snip> >> What does this utility do? >> >> Andre > >
Andre, I was just kidding. Expected some flaming though ;-) JensSchumi On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:18:06 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:02:27 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Edit performance? -Just a guess. ;-) > >Duh :) What performance are we talking about here? > >Andre
--------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -8.3
;-) JensSchumi On 20 Feb 2001 10:56:51 GMT, Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey, that's cool. When I get my in-progress LRE (Lap Record Editor) ready, >we'll have a great array of GPL editors in our hands. > > >+Cinquo --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -8.3
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:30:30 GMT, [email hidden] (JS) wrote: >Andre, >I was just kidding. >Expected some flaming though ;-) Phew, I was just about to send some assasins to your house.. :)
Quoted text (19 lines)> >JensSchumi > >On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:18:06 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: > >>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:02:27 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>Edit performance? -Just a guess. ;-) >> >>Duh :) What performance are we talking about here? >> >>Andre > >--------------------------------------------- >LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: >http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > >GPLRank: -8.3
Andre "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds think alike." - David G Fisher
In article <96rll8$9ig$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Herbert Pohlai) writes: >Are there still ppl out who believe that GPLrank can make sense >without lots of honest participants?? This should actually be TWO questions: 1. Can GPLRank work without honest participants? No. 2. Do I think the majority ARE honest? Absolutely. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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