Anyone here ever play a game called Hard Trucks II?

Saw this game yesterday and thought it might be entertaining if it's at all realistic. Apparently you have to tansport goods on big rigs within a certain amount of time. Anyone play it? Any good? -- Jagg

I prefer Hard Truck to its sequel. Hard Truck II seems confused about what it wants to be. It's not really a driving sim and not really an economic sim. Did I mention there are land mines? And gangsters? If you do decide to go for it, there is a huge patch at the Valusoft website and a cheat to disable the land mines. On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:40:27 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote: >Saw this game yesterday and thought it might be entertaining if it's >at all realistic. Apparently you have to tansport goods on big rigs >within a certain amount of time. Anyone play it? Any good? >-- >Jagg Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:25:16 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke:

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>I prefer Hard Truck to its sequel. Hard Truck II >seems confused about what it wants to be. It's >not really a driving sim and not really an >economic sim. Did I mention there are land mines? >And gangsters? > >If you do decide to go for it, there is a huge >patch at the Valusoft website and a cheat to >disable the land mines.

I saw HT 1 in the bargain fodder bin so maybe I'll try that out instead. Is the physics model any good? Thx. -- Jagg

Let's just say that the physics are not in the same range as Mercedes Benz Truck Racing. <g> That said, Hard Truck does have a certain goofy appeal. Driving around at night in the rain can be very relaxing. And you do have to pay attention to how you toss your vehicle into turns because the tail will let go on you if you get too eager. On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:42:43 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote:

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>On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:25:16 GMT, [email hidden] thus >spoke: > >>I prefer Hard Truck to its sequel. Hard Truck II >>seems confused about what it wants to be. It's >>not really a driving sim and not really an >>economic sim. Did I mention there are land mines? >>And gangsters? >> >>If you do decide to go for it, there is a huge >>patch at the Valusoft website and a cheat to >>disable the land mines. > >I saw HT 1 in the bargain fodder bin so maybe I'll try that out >instead. Is the physics model any good? Thx. >-- >Jagg

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:40:27 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote: >Saw this game yesterday and thought it might be entertaining if it's >at all realistic. Apparently you have to tansport goods on big rigs >within a certain amount of time. Anyone play it? Any good? Don't buy it, it's a very poor game. But Mercedes Benz Truck Racing for an excellent truck sim!! Andre

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:48:58 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke:

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>Let's just say that the physics are not in the >same range as Mercedes Benz Truck Racing. <g> > >That said, Hard Truck does have a certain goofy >appeal. Driving around at night in the rain can >be very relaxing. And you do have to pay >attention to how you toss your vehicle into turns >because the tail will let go on you if you get too >eager.

As long as it feels big and heavy that's good enough. :-) -- Jagg

spoke: As long as it feels big and heavy that's good enough. :-) -- Jagg

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:06:00 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Don't buy it, it's a very poor game. But Mercedes Benz Truck Racing >for an excellent truck sim!! > >Andre I don't want to race truck cabs. I want to do long hauls with a semi. Tried the MBTR demo and while it is very good, the subject matter doesn't interest me. -- Jagg

"Jagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I don't want to race truck cabs. I want to do long hauls with a semi. > Tried the MBTR demo and while it is very good, the subject matter > doesn't interest me. There's a pretty arcady game in the real.com games collection... Forgot the name but it involves quite a few vehicles. --KC

You can download a demo of Hard Truck from www.valusoft.com to see if you like it. (There is no demo for Hard Truck II.) On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:07:03 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote:

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>On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:06:00 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> >thus spoke: > > >>Don't buy it, it's a very poor game. But Mercedes Benz Truck Racing >>for an excellent truck sim!! >> >>Andre > >I don't want to race truck cabs. I want to do long hauls with a semi. >Tried the MBTR demo and while it is very good, the subject matter >doesn't interest me. >-- >Jagg

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:07:03 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote: > >I don't want to race truck cabs. I want to do long hauls with a semi. >Tried the MBTR demo and while it is very good, the subject matter >doesn't interest me. >-- >Jagg If you download the Hard Truck demo from Valusoft, don't be misled by the fact that it is a race between conventional semi-tractors. The full game has all sorts of other modes, including longer hauls with a variety of trucks and, for the adventurous, hill climbing. Toss a few cheat codes at Hard Truck II and it, too, might fit the bill. (I quit on my copy after the fourth or fifth land mine incident. That was before I learned there was a way to turn the damned things off.) Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:40:27 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote: >Saw this game yesterday and thought it might be entertaining if it's >at all realistic. Apparently you have to tansport goods on big rigs >within a certain amount of time. Anyone play it? Any good? I have both HT1 and 2 I played HT1 quite a bit and enjoyed it. It wasn't graphically up to the standards at the time it came out, but it wasn't all that bad. The physics are OK, nothing dramatic, but not as bad as they could be, either. The economic idea was probably fun but I didn't pay much attention to it. I know you had to pick up loads and deliver them without too much damage, you had to upgrade and maintain your truck, buy new trucks, etc. It was ambitious and creative. I did spend some really long hours spacing out trying to coax a giant truck through a swamp, imagining I really had a crucial load to deliver, etc. Maybe it helps that i am a delivery driver in real life, though not in a big truck. And no, I don't deliver pizzas. I purchased Hard Truck 2 hoping it would be a graphic improvement over HT1 and maybe some physics upgrades, etc. I have installed it and started it up a couple times, but haven't had the time to get into it. Someone else in this thread noted that it was heavy on the economic sim thing this time around. I did see a lot of that in the manual, but haven't done anything with it yet. The graphics and physics seemed very similar to the first one, too. They are (as far as I know) the only sims/games in this genre, so if it interests you, I say : Take look! I had fun with HT1 and will probably eventually have some fun with HT2. They were cheap and worth at least what I paid for them. ~daxe

On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:16:21 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke: >You can download a demo of Hard Truck from >www.valusoft.com to see if you like it. (There is >no demo for Hard Truck II.) Thx. -- Jagg

On 18 Feb 2001 00:14:03 -0600, daxe <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>I have both HT1 and 2 > >I played HT1 quite a bit and enjoyed it. It wasn't graphically up to >the standards at the time it came out, but it wasn't all that bad. >The physics are OK, nothing dramatic, but not as bad as they could be, >either. The economic idea was probably fun but I didn't pay much >attention to it. I know you had to pick up loads and deliver them >without too much damage, you had to upgrade and maintain your truck, >buy new trucks, etc. It was ambitious and creative. I did spend some >really long hours spacing out trying to coax a giant truck through a >swamp, imagining I really had a crucial load to deliver, etc. Maybe >it helps that i am a delivery driver in real life, though not in a big >truck. And no, I don't deliver pizzas. > >I purchased Hard Truck 2 hoping it would be a graphic improvement over >HT1 and maybe some physics upgrades, etc. I have installed it and >started it up a couple times, but haven't had the time to get into it. >Someone else in this thread noted that it was heavy on the economic >sim thing this time around. I did see a lot of that in the manual, >but haven't done anything with it yet. The graphics and physics >seemed very similar to the first one, too. > >They are (as far as I know) the only sims/games in this genre, so if >it interests you, I say : Take look! I had fun with HT1 and will >probably eventually have some fun with HT2. They were cheap and worth >at least what I paid for them. > >~daxe

Thx for the insight. I'm downloading the demo of the first HT now so will get a better idea of what to expect soon. I can get HT1 for $10.00 CAD or HT2 for $20.00 CAD so at that price i will probably buy at least one of them. -- Jagg

Here's a great Hard Truck/Hard Truck II site. www.trucksims.com Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:44:21 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke: >Here's a great Hard Truck/Hard Truck II site. > >www.trucksims.com Thx. I read an interview with the developer of HD 1 and 2 and it sounds to me like HT2 has more of what I'm looking for, bar the land mines. But, HT 1 only has fixed trailers where as HT 2 has both fixed and independent trailers. The economic model in HT 2 sounds more interesting too. He also said that the developers of HT also developed some simulator for NASA and that they physics model in HT2 is somewhat accurate. -- Jagg

If you go for Hard Truck II, be sure to download the ht2p1005 patch. That's the patch that includes the NO LAND MINES cheat. The maps at www.trucksims.com will also be a big help. Enjoy! On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:49:24 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote:

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>On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:44:21 GMT, [email hidden] thus >spoke: > >>Here's a great Hard Truck/Hard Truck II site. >> >>www.trucksims.com > >Thx. I read an interview with the developer of HD 1 and 2 and it >sounds to me like HT2 has more of what I'm looking for, bar the land >mines. But, HT 1 only has fixed trailers where as HT 2 has both fixed >and independent trailers. The economic model in HT 2 sounds more >interesting too. He also said that the developers of HT also developed >some simulator for NASA and that they physics model in HT2 is somewhat >accurate. >-- >Jagg

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:41:12 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke: >If you go for Hard Truck II, be sure to download >the ht2p1005 patch. That's the patch that >includes the NO LAND MINES cheat. The maps at >www.trucksims.com will also be a big help. > >Enjoy! OK, thx. Tried the demo of HT 1, but it only allowed to race on a circuit with just cabs so it didn't give me a very good feeling for the overall game. Downloaded a video of HT 2 and the graphics look much better going by the video. I don't think there are any mirrors in this game though, right? -- Jagg

Actually, there ARE mirrors. Here's one of the tips from the www.trucksims.com site: "Use your mouse to rotate your view slightly to the left until you can see your drivers side mirror. This way you can drive and still monitor the road behind you." On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:19:40 GMT, [email hidden] (Jagg) wrote:

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>On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:41:12 GMT, [email hidden] thus >spoke: > >>If you go for Hard Truck II, be sure to download >>the ht2p1005 patch. That's the patch that >>includes the NO LAND MINES cheat. The maps at >>www.trucksims.com will also be a big help. >> >>Enjoy! > >OK, thx. Tried the demo of HT 1, but it only allowed to race on a >circuit with just cabs so it didn't give me a very good feeling for >the overall game. Downloaded a video of HT 2 and the graphics look >much better going by the video. I don't think there are any mirrors in >this game though, right? >-- >Jagg

The real benefit to the demo is the sense it gives you of the physics in the game. They are not bad. Still, given all you've said, HT2 is probably what you're looking for. At bargain prices, though, why not get both? :) Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

i have this game (HT2) running on a celeron 600 (not oc'ed), 192 megs of ram and a v3 2000, and i average between 10 and 20 fps no matter what i set the graphic detail to. it seems to me that i should get a better framerate than that. anyone else run into the same things and found a solution? thanks and sorry for interrupting the thread with my query. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Actually, there ARE mirrors. Here's one of the > tips from the www.trucksims.com site: > > "Use your mouse to rotate your view slightly to > the left until you can see your drivers side > mirror. This way you can drive and still monitor > the road behind you." > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:19:40 GMT, [email hidden] > (Jagg) wrote: > > >On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:41:12 GMT, [email hidden] thus > >spoke: > > > >>If you go for Hard Truck II, be sure to download > >>the ht2p1005 patch. That's the patch that > >>includes the NO LAND MINES cheat. The maps at > >>www.trucksims.com will also be a big help. > >> > >>Enjoy! > > > >OK, thx. Tried the demo of HT 1, but it only allowed to race on a > >circuit with just cabs so it didn't give me a very good feeling for > >the overall game. Downloaded a video of HT 2 and the graphics look > >much better going by the video. I don't think there are any mirrors in > >this game though, right? > >-- > >Jagg > > The real benefit to the demo is the sense it gives > you of the physics in the game. They are not bad. > Still, given all you've said, HT2 is probably what > you're looking for. At bargain prices, though, > why not get both? :) > > Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:28:56 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke:

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>Actually, there ARE mirrors. Here's one of the >tips from the www.trucksims.com site: > >"Use your mouse to rotate your view slightly to >the left until you can see your drivers side >mirror. This way you can drive and still monitor >the road behind you."

Good. Thx. -- Jagg

I love it. A guy down the hall and I are both addicted to it now. It seems like it's a simple and boring game, but it's strangely addicting. -Corey Leigh PS. Plus, it's cheap :-) Jagg wrote: > > Saw this game yesterday and thought it might be entertaining if it's > at all realistic. Apparently you have to tansport goods on big rigs > within a certain amount of time. Anyone play it? Any good? > -- > Jagg

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:52:12 -0500, "Corey A. Leigh" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >I love it. A guy down the hall and I are both addicted to it now. It >seems like it's a simple and boring game, but it's strangely addicting. So is picking your nose. :-) >PS. Plus, it's cheap :-) Probably it's saving grace. -- Jagg

thus spoke: So is picking your nose. :-) Probably it's saving grace. -- Jagg

OK, I bought HT2 today. Now to go download the patch. Thx for all your comments. -- Jagg