What does Trim settingin NH do?

I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore mode set. Thanks, Skeeter "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** It lets you trim out the pull to the right that some of us don't like. I only wish N4 had it... It's tolerable in N4 IF you have a FF wheel and you are running FF. If you have a non-FF bungied wheel or are running a FF wheel with FF disabled, then it will make racing unbearable. -Larry "skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used > for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore > mode set. > > Thanks, > > Skeeter > > > "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > - Barry Goldwater

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Thanks. So far I find driving N4 unbearable. With the limited about of steering "ratios" available, my Force RS is too twitchy at even the slowest ration setting. I want to drive with 100% linearity and won't do it at any other lesser setting. Maybe I'm being stubborn but I don't like it if the wheel response isn't linear. If Papy would just remove the restrictions on the steering ratio, I think it would be fine. On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:24:59 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > >It lets you trim out the pull to the right that some of us don't like. > >I only wish N4 had it... > >It's tolerable in N4 IF you have a FF wheel and you are running FF. If you >have a non-FF bungied wheel or are running a FF wheel with FF disabled, then >it will make racing unbearable. > >-Larry > >"skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used >> for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore >> mode set. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Skeeter >> >> >> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." >> - Barry Goldwater > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > http://www.usenet.com >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Thanks, Skeeter "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater

just want to check...N4 steering ratio's are opposite those of N3 and more like GPL. So to slow down the steering, you increase the ratio. In N3 you lowered it. Hope that helps...a 32:1 ratio is often used on the N4 superspeedways...this would make an N3 car so twitchy you'd have an epileptic seizure. dave henrie "skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks. > > So far I find driving N4 unbearable. With the limited about of > steering "ratios" available, my Force RS is too twitchy at even the > slowest ration setting. I want to drive with 100% linearity and won't > do it at any other lesser setting. Maybe I'm being stubborn but I > don't like it if the wheel response isn't linear. If Papy would just > remove the restrictions on the steering ratio, I think it would be > fine. > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:24:59 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > > >It lets you trim out the pull to the right that some of us don't like. > > > >I only wish N4 had it... > > > >It's tolerable in N4 IF you have a FF wheel and you are running FF. If

you > >have a non-FF bungied wheel or are running a FF wheel with FF disabled,then

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> >it will make racing unbearable. > > > >-Larry > > > >"skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used > >> for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore > >> mode set. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Skeeter > >> > >> > >> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > >> - Barry Goldwater > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > > http://www.usenet.com > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Thanks, > > Skeeter > > > "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > - Barry Goldwater

Actually, I don't remember how the steering was set up in N3 but I do know that I did not have a problem with it. But in response to your question, yes, I have the steering in N4 set to 32:1. Unfortunately, that doesn't help the twitchy feeling. I'm afraid that until (unless?) Papyrus changes N4 to allow larger ratio, I won't enjoy the game. I've also noticed posts on other forums that I'm not the only one with the complaint. I'm glad to hear that most of the rest of the folks out there are having a good time with it. I just wish I could to and join in on some of the online racing. (After working on my lousy setup skills ;) ) On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:12:32 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> just want to check...N4 steering ratio's are opposite those of N3 and more >like GPL. So to slow down the steering, you increase the ratio. In N3 you >lowered it. Hope that helps...a 32:1 ratio is often used on the N4 >superspeedways...this would make an N3 car so twitchy you'd have an >epileptic seizure. >dave henrie >"skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Thanks. >> >> So far I find driving N4 unbearable. With the limited about of >> steering "ratios" available, my Force RS is too twitchy at even the >> slowest ration setting. I want to drive with 100% linearity and won't >> do it at any other lesser setting. Maybe I'm being stubborn but I >> don't like it if the wheel response isn't linear. If Papy would just >> remove the restrictions on the steering ratio, I think it would be >> fine. >> >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:24:59 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** >> > >> >It lets you trim out the pull to the right that some of us don't like. >> > >> >I only wish N4 had it... >> > >> >It's tolerable in N4 IF you have a FF wheel and you are running FF. If >you >> >have a non-FF bungied wheel or are running a FF wheel with FF disabled, >then >> >it will make racing unbearable. >> > >> >-Larry >> > >> >"skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:[email hidden]... >> >> I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used >> >> for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore >> >> mode set. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Skeeter >> >> >> >> >> >> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and >> >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." >> >> - Barry Goldwater >> > >> > >> > >> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** >> > http://www.usenet.com >> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> Thanks, >> >> Skeeter >> >> >> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." >> - Barry Goldwater >

Thanks, Skeeter "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** IMHO, they need to increase that to 40. The setting of 32 still leaves the car too twitchy at Dega and Daytona to suit me. Anyone know if you can over-ride this somewhere ? Non-Linear is NOT the answer. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4%fk6.444824$[email hidden]... > just want to check...N4 steering ratio's are opposite those of N3 andmore > like GPL. So to slow down the steering, you increase the ratio. In N3you

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> lowered it. Hope that helps...a 32:1 ratio is often used on the N4 > superspeedways...this would make an N3 car so twitchy you'd have an > epileptic seizure. > dave henrie > "skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks. > > > > So far I find driving N4 unbearable. With the limited about of > > steering "ratios" available, my Force RS is too twitchy at even the > > slowest ration setting. I want to drive with 100% linearity and won't > > do it at any other lesser setting. Maybe I'm being stubborn but I > > don't like it if the wheel response isn't linear. If Papy would just > > remove the restrictions on the steering ratio, I think it would be > > fine. > > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:24:59 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > > > > >It lets you trim out the pull to the right that some of us don't like. > > > > > >I only wish N4 had it... > > > > > >It's tolerable in N4 IF you have a FF wheel and you are running FF. If > you > > >have a non-FF bungied wheel or are running a FF wheel with FF disabled, > then > > >it will make racing unbearable. > > > > > >-Larry > > > > > >"skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >> I guess I've never noticed before but what is the Trim setting used > > >> for on the Garage screen on Nascar Heat? BTW, I've got the Hardcore > > >> mode set. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> Skeeter > > >> > > >> > > >> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > > >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > > >> - Barry Goldwater > > > > > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > > > http://www.usenet.com > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > Thanks, > > > > Skeeter > > > > > > "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > > moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > > - Barry Goldwater >

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I agree completely that non-linear is *not* the answer. I would simply remove the check that limits the ratio at 32:1. If I like 250:1 and you like 40:1, the answer should be "Great, no problem. Change it to whatever you want". The reason that the steering ratio shouldn't be an issue is that doesn't give any one driver a mechanical or aerodynamic advantage in a race. On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:55:04 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > >IMHO, they need to increase that to 40. > >The setting of 32 still leaves the car too twitchy at Dega and Daytona to >suit me. > >Anyone know if you can over-ride this somewhere ? > >Non-Linear is NOT the answer. > >-Larry >

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**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Absolute Agreement. The decision on whether to allow this change in fixed setups was bounced around forever during the Hawaii days until it was decided to leave it open. That was the proper decision... -Larry "skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I agree completely that non-linear is *not* the answer. I would simply > remove the check that limits the ratio at 32:1. If I like 250:1 and > you like 40:1, the answer should be "Great, no problem. Change it to > whatever you want". The reason that the steering ratio shouldn't be an > issue is that doesn't give any one driver a mechanical or aerodynamic > advantage in a race. > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:55:04 -0500, "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > > >IMHO, they need to increase that to 40. > > > >The setting of 32 still leaves the car too twitchy at Dega and Daytona to > >suit me. > > > >Anyone know if you can over-ride this somewhere ? > > > >Non-Linear is NOT the answer. > > > >-Larry > > > < snip > > Thanks, > > Skeeter > > > "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and > moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > - Barry Goldwater

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