Re: Help: GPL doesn't store laps at Nuerburgring?!?!

A number of us have run into the same thing in league racing. We've come to the conclusion that if you're off the pavement in certain areas or for certain distances, even if it doesn't DQ you it will not count your lap. I agree, 10 minutes is a long time to find out .... nothing :( Bert Hilberink wrote ... <snip> > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. Luckilymy > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-((((<snip>

Bert Hilberink <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. Luckily my > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > alright. Two things come to mind: > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a warm-up > lap of 15 minutes... > Can anybody help me? I just lost a possible improvement of about 150 on > GPLRank, so I've had better times...

There are some turns at the 'Ring where you are _not_ allowed to shortcut across the grass. Shortcut in this case means not keeping at least two wheels on the track. The righthander at the end of Adenauer Forst is one of these turns, but there are three or four others. +Cinquo [GPLRank 26.88]

yes putting off wheels at certain corners will dq the lap. If you have the trackside detail slider set high enough, you 'should' see three signs at the ring with a red x against a black circle... those are the areas you must stay on track. dave henrie "Ville V Sinkko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96rukf$g3s$[email hidden]... > Bert Hilberink <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'.Luckily my

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> > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > > > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > > alright. Two things come to mind: > > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a

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> > lap of 15 minutes... > > > Can anybody help me? I just lost a possible improvement of about 150 on > > GPLRank, so I've had better times... > > There are some turns at the 'Ring where you are _not_ allowed to shortcut > across the grass. Shortcut in this case means not keeping at least two > wheels on the track. The righthander at the end of Adenauer Forst is one > of these turns, but there are three or four others. > > +Cinquo [GPLRank 26.88] >

"Bert Hilberink" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:96rs32$265iq$[email hidden]... Hi! > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. Luckilymy

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> neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > alright. Two things come to mind: > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a warm-up > lap of 15 minutes...

First of all: Ringtrainer has nothing to do with this. *g* There are four sections along the Ring that you must not shortcut - otherwise the lap won't be counted. These sections are defined in the "track.ini"-file: *snip* [ configuration_0 ] ; Format: dlong, start dlat, end dlat, time penalty (sec), 0 (required) ; 3 checkpoint minimum checkpoint_0 = 2037.0 -14.0 7.5 5.0 0; prevents cutting Nordkehre II checkpoint_1 = 2763.3 -14.7 7.0 5.0 0; prevents cutting Hatzenbach II checkpoint_2 = 3138.0 -14.3 6.5 5.0 0; prevents cutting Hocheichen checkpoint_3 = 7069.5 -9.0 11.0 10.0 0; prevents cutting Adenauer Forst */snip* The numbers define checkpoints where your car has to be within certain "poles" of an invisible gate across the track. The position of this gate is defined by the first number (longitudinal distance from the s/f-line in meters) and the poles are defined by the following two numbers (lateral distance in meters from the track's centerline). If you're missing this gate because you left the grey stuff and are driving on the green, then GPL won't count the lap. In a race, you would get a time penalty of X seconds, where X is defined by the fourth number. So, to make sure that every lap is counted, simply stay on the asphalt and everything will be fine ;)). Use Ringtrainer to know the enemy and soon you will find yourself within the below-9-club ;)). Regards Crash

Re-install the track from the CD and do NOT use ringtrainer. Bert Hilberink <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96rs32$265iq$[email hidden]... > An hour ago I had the feeling I could finally attack the Nuerburgring and > improve on my previous best lap in a Cooper; at 12:38 that didn't seem too > difficult. Selected my trusty Eagle, took a deep breath, and after acrashy > warm-up lap I managed a first lap with less than 10 spins and even asecond > with 'only' 3. A quick glance at my watch showed me that this was around > 10:00, so a nice improvement. > > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. Luckilymy

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> neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > alright. Two things come to mind: > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a warm-up > lap of 15 minutes... > > Can anybody help me? I just lost a possible improvement of about 150 on > GPLRank, so I've had better times... > > Thanks in advance, > > Bert > >

| There are some turns at the 'Ring where you are _not_ allowed to shortcut | across the grass. Shortcut in this case means not keeping at least two | wheels on the track. The righthander at the end of Adenauer Forst is one | of these turns, but there are three or four others. I think one of the others is the nordkehre. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends

An hour ago I had the feeling I could finally attack the Nuerburgring and improve on my previous best lap in a Cooper; at 12:38 that didn't seem too difficult. Selected my trusty Eagle, took a deep breath, and after a crashy warm-up lap I managed a first lap with less than 10 spins and even a second with 'only' 3. A quick glance at my watch showed me that this was around 10:00, so a nice improvement. Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. Luckily my neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper alright. Two things come to mind: (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a warm-up lap of 15 minutes... Can anybody help me? I just lost a possible improvement of about 150 on GPLRank, so I've had better times... Thanks in advance, Bert

Don, Thanks for the suggestion. The silly thing is that on my 12:38 lap (no, I wasn't reading or watching TV...:-)) I was off track much more than on my 'relatively clean' laps with the Eagle. Maybe it's the 'off the pavement in certain areas'; any idea where that would be? Thanks, Bert "Don Jennings" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96rtdv$mb79f$[email hidden]... > A number of us have run into the same thing in league racing. We've cometo > the conclusion that if you're off the pavement in certain areas or for > certain distances, even if it doesn't DQ you it will not count your lap.I > agree, 10 minutes is a long time to find out .... nothing :( > > Bert Hilberink wrote ... > <snip> > > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'.Luckily > my > > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > <snip> > >

Joachim, Dave, Don, Ville, I tried again, drove very carefully (i.e.: left the track only 6 times and spun only once), fell almost asleep and managed an 11:05 lap in the Eagle. Indeed nothing to do with the installation, neither with the Ringtrainer (which I like quite a lot actually!), just my driving. Thanks to you all for the information! Tomorrow I'll go for a sub 10:00 lap...:-))) Regards, Bert "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96s3h5$js4$00$[email hidden]...

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> "Bert Hilberink" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:96rs32$265iq$[email hidden]... > > Hi! > > > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when I > > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'.

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> my > > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > > alright. Two things come to mind: > > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a

warm-up

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> > lap of 15 minutes... > > First of all: Ringtrainer has nothing to do with this. *g* > There are four sections along the Ring that you must not shortcut - > otherwise the lap won't be counted. These sections are defined in the > "track.ini"-file: > > *snip* > > [ configuration_0 ] > ; Format: dlong, start dlat, end dlat, time penalty (sec), 0 (required) > ; 3 checkpoint minimum > checkpoint_0 = 2037.0 -14.0 7.5 5.0 0; prevents cutting Nordkehre II > checkpoint_1 = 2763.3 -14.7 7.0 5.0 0; prevents cutting Hatzenbach II > checkpoint_2 = 3138.0 -14.3 6.5 5.0 0; prevents cutting Hocheichen > checkpoint_3 = 7069.5 -9.0 11.0 10.0 0; prevents cutting Adenauer Forst > > */snip* > > The numbers define checkpoints where your car has to be within certain > "poles" of an invisible gate across the track. The position of this gate

is > defined by the first number (longitudinal distance from the s/f-line in > meters) and the poles are defined by the following two numbers (lateral > distance in meters from the track's centerline). If you're missing thisgate > because you left the grey stuff and are driving on the green, then GPLwon't > count the lap. In a race, you would get a time penalty of X seconds, whereX > is defined by the fourth number. > > So, to make sure that every lap is counted, simply stay on the asphalt and > everything will be fine ;)). Use Ringtrainer to know the enemy and soonyou

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> will find yourself within the below-9-club ;)). > > Regards > Crash > > >

"Bert Hilberink" > > I didn't have the details 'that high', because I only have a 233MMX. Andof > course, that's the only reason I'm this slow...:-)))) > > Regards, > > Bert Oh but of course, we all knew you had to be cpu-challenged...couldn't be ANYTHING else.....:) dave(wonder if I still have that 486 lying around)henrie

I put the detail slider to high and, yes, I see them now. Helps enormously when you're watching out...:-)) I didn't have the details 'that high', because I only have a 233MMX. And of course, that's the only reason I'm this slow...:-)))) Regards, Bert "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6Pfk6.444818$[email hidden]... > yes putting off wheels at certain corners will dq the lap. > If you have the trackside detail slider set high enough, you 'should' see > three signs at the ring with a red x against a black circle... those arethe

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> areas > you must stay on track. > dave henrie > "Ville V Sinkko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:96rukf$g3s$[email hidden]... > > Bert Hilberink <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > Horror of horrors, when I passed the pits it showed nothing, and when

I

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> > > stopped and look at the list with laptimes it showed twice 'XXX'. > Luckily my > > > neighbours aren't home, otherwise... :-(((( > > > > > No idea what happened; it recorded that awfully slow lap in the Cooper > > > alright. Two things come to mind: > > > (1) I've had this before (my previous install of GPL, *before* my > > > previous HD crashed. Only on the Nuerburgring. > > > (2) I've install 'Ringtrainer', so that I don't have to drive a > warm-up > > > lap of 15 minutes... > > > > > Can anybody help me? I just lost a possible improvement of about 150

on > > > GPLRank, so I've had better times... > > > > There are some turns at the 'Ring where you are _not_ allowed toshortcut

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> > across the grass. Shortcut in this case means not keeping at least two > > wheels on the track. The righthander at the end of Adenauer Forst is one > > of these turns, but there are three or four others. > > > > +Cinquo [GPLRank 26.88] > > >

In article <96s5c2$20o$[email hidden]>, "GraDee" <[email hidden]> writes: >Re-install the track from the CD and do NOT use ringtrainer. > Why? Running with RingTrainer isn't causing his discounted times - going off the track is... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Absolutely true. I was (am...:-) the guy that went off the track at 'the wrong places'. Since I turned the resolution to 'high', at least I can see the places where GPL checks whether I have at least 2 tyres on the track... I'm still using RingTrainer. Very nice tool, and I need it! :-)) Regards, Bert "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <96s5c2$20o$[email hidden]>, "GraDee" <[email hidden]>writes: > > >Re-install the track from the CD and do NOT use ringtrainer. > > > > Why? Running with RingTrainer isn't causing his discounted times - goingoff

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> the track is... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.