Online Petition: Retire the Number 3

Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an online petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 from NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/

Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Robert Roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:erlk6.259852$[email hidden]... > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an online > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 from > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > > >

Oops, make that 1800 sigs, not 18,000. Jeez, I could really use some coffee. -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SXsk6.571$[email hidden]... > Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Dean > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > "Robert Roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:erlk6.259852$[email hidden]... > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an online > > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 from > > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > > > > > > > > > >

it's a great idea, please join in. Robert Roy wrote: > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an online > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 from > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** While I agree with this 100%, a part of me would like to see Jr. run the number for the 2001 season as a tribute, and then have it retired at the Champion Awards at the end of the year... -Larry "Robert Roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:erlk6.259852$[email hidden]...

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> Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an online > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 from > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > >

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Hmmmm this is weird... I could swear it said 10,000 (yes - ten-thousand) signatures signed, when I signed the petition last night..... now however... it reads 1900... ??? ed_ "DTP" wrote: > Oops, make that 1800 sigs, not 18,000. Jeez, I could really use somecoffee.

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> > -- > > "DTP" > > Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 > > > > -- > > See ya in the pits, > > Dean > > > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember

how > > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > > > "Robert Roy" wrote > > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an > online > > > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3from > > > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/

> While I agree with this 100%, a part of me would like to see Jr. run the > number for the 2001 season as a tribute, and then have it retired at the > Champion Awards at the end of the year... > > -Larry >I live in the UK and we see very little of NASCAR (groan). I'll risk being flamed but I think Jr should inherit the number 3. And if he dosn't want it then retire it. Farewell Dale, men with charisma, style and true grit are hard to find. Alan

If anyone should have the option to run the Great #3, it should be Jr. I think he may opt to retire it tho' if possible.. only "mho".. Thom_j. | I live in the UK and we see very little of NASCAR (groan). I'll risk being | flamed but I think Jr should inherit the number 3. And if he dosn't wantit

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| then retire it. | | Farewell Dale, men with charisma, style and true grit are hard to find. | | Alan | |

Weird. I just signed at 2:01pm PST, Tuesday Feb 20th. It says there are "21906 Total Signatures" <which is a copy and paste from the page itself>. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kcwk6.3613$[email hidden]...

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> Hmmmm this is weird... I could swear it said 10,000 (yes - ten-thousand) > signatures signed, when I signed the petition last night..... now > however... it reads 1900... ??? > > ed_ > > > "DTP" wrote: > > Oops, make that 1800 sigs, not 18,000. Jeez, I could really use some > coffee. > > > > -- > > > > "DTP" > > > Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 > > > > > > -- > > > See ya in the pits, > > > Dean > > > > > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember > how > > > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > > > > > "Robert Roy" wrote > > > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an > > online > > > > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 > from > > > > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > >

The first is here: http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/petition.html The other here: http://www.petitiononline.com/dalee3/petition.html "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kcwk6.3613$[email hidden]...

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> Hmmmm this is weird... I could swear it said 10,000 (yes - ten-thousand) > signatures signed, when I signed the petition last night..... now > however... it reads 1900... ??? > > ed_ > > > "DTP" wrote: > > Oops, make that 1800 sigs, not 18,000. Jeez, I could really use some > coffee. > > > > -- > > > > "DTP" > > > Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 > > > > > > -- > > > See ya in the pits, > > > Dean > > > > > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember > how > > > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > > > > > "Robert Roy" wrote > > > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an > > online > > > > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number 3 > from > > > > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > >

Robert Roy <[email hidden]> wrote on 20 Feb 2001: >Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is now an >online petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the >number 3 from NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > >http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ This is interesting to those of us in the UK and Europe, where this sort of thing is pretty uch unknown. After all, Ferrari didn't retire the number 27 after Villeneuve's death. To be honest (and I accept I'm in a minority here), I don't really like this as a method of tribute - what would you do in F1 (even under the old-style numbering system) if the champion was killed? Retire number one? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +287.79) Earn (not very much) cash with "Ciao!" reviews - http://uk.ciao.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

> I don't really like this as a method of tribute - >what would you do in F1 (even under the old-style numbering system) if >the champion was killed? Retire number one? Again, from my perspective across the pond, there is no equivalent to Earnhardt in F1 today (or for that matter, possibly ever), not even Schumie. Its not a case of Earnhardt being the champ either. He hasn't won it for several years now. - Alan Dale Earnhardt, 1951-2001: "The Last American Hero" R.I.P.

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Well, the first one won't load at all, and the second one is a dead link... Interesting... -Larry "Tim Elhajj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The first is here: > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/petition.html > > The other here: > http://www.petitiononline.com/dalee3/petition.html > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kcwk6.3613$[email hidden]... > > Hmmmm this is weird... I could swear it said 10,000 (yes -

ten-thousand)

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> > signatures signed, when I signed the petition last night..... now > > however... it reads 1900... ??? > > > > ed_ > > > > > > "DTP" wrote: > > > Oops, make that 1800 sigs, not 18,000. Jeez, I could really use some > > coffee. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "DTP" > > > > Almost 18,000 signatures as of 7:00am, Feb.20, 2001 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > See ya in the pits, > > > > Dean > > > > > > > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't

remember > > how > > > > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > > > > > > > "Robert Roy" wrote > > > > > Don't know how many have already seen this yet, but there is nowan > > > online > > > > > petition (not my own, passed to me by email) to retire the number3

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> > from > > > > > NASCAR. to view and/or sign, see: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/DaleE3/ > > > > > > > >

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In article <fkxk6.2119$[email hidden]>, "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> While I agree with this 100%, a part of me would like to see Jr. run the >> number for the 2001 season as a tribute, and then have it retired at the >> Champion Awards at the end of the year... >> >> -Larry >> >I live in the UK and we see very little of NASCAR (groan). I'll risk being >flamed but I think Jr should inherit the number 3. And if he dosn't want it >then retire it. >

I agree. The ONLY person who should be able to run #3 should be Little E. Side question: how DO the numbers get determined? Can a new team just pick any number that's not in use? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Alan Conceicao <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Feb 2001:

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>> I don't really like this as a method of tribute - >>what would you do in F1 (even under the old-style numbering system) >>if the champion was killed? Retire number one? > >Again, from my perspective across the pond, there is no equivalent >to Earnhardt in F1 today (or for that matter, possibly ever), not >even Schumie. Its not a case of Earnhardt being the champ either. He >hasn't won it for several years now.

OK, so would you have supported retiring 27 when GV was killed? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +287.79) Earn (not very much) cash with "Ciao!" reviews - http://uk.ciao.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

David Buttery wrote: > This is interesting to those of us in the UK and Europe, where this > sort of thing is pretty uch unknown. After all, Ferrari didn't retire > the number 27 after Villeneuve's death. To be honest (and I accept I'm > in a minority here), I don't really like this as a method of tribute - > what would you do in F1 (even under the old-style numbering system) if > the champion was killed? Retire number one? The link between Gilles Villeneuve and #27 was much weaker than Earnhardt and #3. Villeneuve was only #27 by chance (Ferrari inherited it from Williams after Alan Jones won the championship for Williams in 1980 - the teams just swapped numbers). Villeneuve was only #27 for the last 20 races of his short 68 race career. 1977 - #40 McLaren (1 race), #21 Ferrari (1 race), #11 Ferrari (1 race) 1978 - #12 Ferrari (16 races) 1979 - #12 Ferrari (15 races) 1980 - #2 (because Sheckter was 1979 champ for Ferrari) (14 races) 1981 - #27 Ferrari (15 races) 1982 - #27 Ferrari (5 races) Plus, Villenueve, although his reputation has become almost mythic, was nowhere near the icon that Earnhardt was. Gilles only won 6 races in his career and never won the championship. Don't get me wrong, I am a much bigger fan of Gilles Villeneuve than Dale Earnhardt, just because I have always been a huge F1 fan and don't follow NASCAR that closely. However, there is no denying that Earnhardt meant much, much more to his discipline (7 time champion, the length of his career, etc.). Plus, as you said, the numbering system is different in NASCAR - drivers are more strongly identified with their numbers because they don't change them based on the previous year's performance. Given all that, I think that retiring his number (or giving it to Dale, Jr.) would be a nice gesture. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************