N4 online trouble..any ideas?

Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info.

Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info.

You have a bad internet connection (or the person who you are racing against does). It's called lag or latency. Try upgrading your connection or racing on servers where your ping to it is 150ms or less. Mr. B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <"raycerdb"@@netscape.net> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: N4 online trouble..any ideas? > Anyone having problems online where other cars"Dave" <"raycerdb"@@netscape.net> wrote in message news:NxIk6.15$[email hidden]...

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> Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they > reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this > in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A > couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any > discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if > any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A > core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info. >

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Welcome to the wonderful world of Online Racing, The Internet, and WARP! Isn't it exciting to get taken out by a car that's 1/2 mile ahead of you? -Larry "Dave" <"raycerdb"@@netscape.net> wrote in message news:NxIk6.15$[email hidden]...

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> Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they > reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this > in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A > couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any > discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if > any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A > core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info. >

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Yes, you must be new to online racing. Its called "warp" and has been around since the days of Quake (first big multiplayer, real time game I ever played over the net circa '92-'93) when we called it "lag". Be prepared to deal with it until everyone in the world has a broad band connection to the Internet. Warp and lag are general terms for dropped or lost data packets between host and client. It can be minimized by making sure nothing extraneous is running in the background on your computer and by connecting to servers (dedicated or not) that are on T1+, DSL, or cable (and even then you will still get it due to other racers having bad connections and various traffic between you and server). OF course a cable or DSL connection on your end would help greatly too. Consensus is that each racer requires 20-30k bandwidth from the server, so to host 20 guys one would need roughly 500-600k up and down stream as a minimum. If you have 56k, you'd be lucky to reliably host 2 guys outside of yourself. Book recommends a cable host only host 15-20 players, I have cable and get 2.8-3.0 MB Down, and about 360-500k Up and can host about 15 guys decently. Learn how to use PING and TRACERT from a DOS box, but you have to know hosts IP. If you run TRACERT and get more than 10-12 hops between you and server, good luck. Diehard racers get together at LAN events and hook all their gear up to a 100MB LAN and race over the network to reduce warp. Anyway, race on and good luck. edb Dog-Leg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > Welcome to the wonderful world of Online Racing, The Internet, and WARP! > > Isn't it exciting to get taken out by a car that's 1/2 mile ahead of you? > > -Larry > > "Dave" <"raycerdb"@@netscape.net> wrote in message > news:NxIk6.15$[email hidden]... > > Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they > > reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this > > in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A > > couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any > > discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if > > any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A > > core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info. > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > http://www.usenet.com > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Dave wrote:

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> > Anyone having problems online where other cars disappear and when they > reappear your car goes into a slide and usually spins? I first saw this > in the demo but, thought it was my video card having major glitches. A > couple of my friends are noticing this also. I haven't seen any > discussion about it here so i am starting to wonder how many racers, if > any..are experiencing this. Does anyone know if there is a fix? A > core.ini line that might help? Thanx in advance for any info.

Warp sucks, doesn't it? <g> -- Fester Restrictor plate racing killed Dale Earnhardt.

While i thank you for your responses i must say that i have never seen this type of behavior and i have been doing this quite a while...Hawaii which was a bit different, kali and kahn before Ten as far as internet racing. Nobodys car is hitting me and making me spin, i realize that it is probably some sort of warp and was hoping that i was not one of the only ones with this problem. N3 doesn't spin ya like that! So i thought maybe someone heard that Papyrus had addressed this and i hadn't heard yet. Wishful thinking? There was a lot of discussion and tweaking with the core.ini file by some smart racers in GPL and i hope it continues with N4. Thanks again for your time.

While i thank you for your responses i must say that i have never seen this type of behavior and i have been doing this quite a while...Hawaii which was a bit different, kali and kahn before Ten as far as internet racing. Nobodys car is hitting me and making me spin, i realize that it is probably some sort of warp and was hoping that i was not one of the only ones with this problem. N3 doesn't spin ya like that! So i thought maybe someone heard that Papyrus had addressed this and i hadn't heard yet. Wishful thinking? There was a lot of discussion and tweaking with the core.ini file by some smart racers in GPL and i hope it continues with N4. Thanks again for your time.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:59:18 GMT, Dave <"raycerdb"@@netscape.net> wrote:

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>While i thank you for your responses i must say that i have never seen >this type of behavior and i have been doing this quite a while...Hawaii >which was a bit different, kali and kahn before Ten as far as internet >racing. Nobodys car is hitting me and making me spin, i realize that it >is probably some sort of warp and was hoping that i was not one of the >only ones with this problem. N3 doesn't spin ya like that! So i thought >maybe someone heard that Papyrus had addressed this and i hadn't heard >yet. Wishful thinking? There was a lot of discussion and tweaking with >the core.ini file by some smart racers in GPL and i hope it continues >with N4. Thanks again for your time.

I'm experiencing the same thing. Never had it in GPL (with the same machine). For me I think it's a lack of CPU power to run the game (I'm using a C300A @ 450MHz - fine for GPL but struggling for N4). If the CPU can't keep up with the game as well as talking to the modem, you get warps. I think the new factor that N4 is adding is the banking of the tracks (not in GPL) and the ability to bottom out (not in N3). When you warp, you get moved abruptly around the track, there is a greater chance to bottom out on the banked track, and the result is you're into a skid before you know it. :( "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark