GPL - new track - Keimola released

The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site without the ads). Have fun, The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia

Jussi Kaskia <[email hidden]> writes: >The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at >http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site >without the ads). GREAT JOB! Thank you guys! I was really waiting for that track. All GPL racers, welcome to Finland! Arto PS Tosi hieno rata! Suuret kiitokset! Eik� El�intarha sopisi seuraavaksi projektiksi? :-)

The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a difference. Marc. "Jussi Kaskia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:97461g$8qj$[email hidden]...

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> The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site > without the ads). > > Have fun, > The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia > > > >

i noticed the .dat file was named incorrectly. once i renamed it to keimola.dat everything worked fine. Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:X%jl6.301862$[email hidden]...

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> The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party > track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a > difference. > > Marc. > > "Jussi Kaskia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:97461g$8qj$[email hidden]... > > The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > > http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same

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> > without the ads). > > > > Have fun, > > The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia > > > > > > > > > >

Nice job! Can't say that I've heard of the track before, but you've done a nice job modeling that Mercedes-Benz tower based on the picture. "Jussi Kaskia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:97461g$8qj$[email hidden]...

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> The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site > without the ads). > > Have fun, > The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia > > > >

I couldn't agree more Arto... Well done guys, this is a great track and a real pleasure to drive on. Thanks again for a job well done.. Cheers, Ron Arto Wikla <[email hidden]> wrote in article <wikla.982885597@kanasaari>... > Jussi Kaskia <[email hidden]> writes: > > >The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > >http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (samesite

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> >without the ads). > > GREAT JOB! Thank you guys! I was really waiting for that track. > All GPL racers, welcome to Finland! > > Arto > > PS Tosi hieno rata! Suuret kiitokset! Eik� El�intarha sopisi

seuraavaksi > projektiksi? :-) >

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:35:35 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party >track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a >difference. I've got a few questions to you guys having problems installing the track: 1. Does the installer say that both update of ini-files and install of track files went OK? 2. Is the \tracks\keimola\ folder completely empty? 3: Any error messages? From what I know this is the first time the "stand alone" installer was used, so I'm trying to hunt down any possible bugs. Cheers, /Martin

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:01:27 GMT, "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:X%jl6.301862$[email hidden]... >> The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party >> track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a >> difference. > >i noticed the .dat file was named incorrectly. once i renamed it to >keimola.dat everything worked fine.

Hmm, strange, the installer should definitely work without any changes because I tried it few times myself and other people reported that it worked, too. I also have GPL on D: drive so that's not the problem. One tester had problems with the installer because he didn't have \gpl directory under \sierra. The installer modified the ini-files correctly and created \keimola but didn't copy the files. Other than that I can't think of anything else at the moment. Anyway, thanks for all the positive comments and feedback everyone, it's really appreciated! :) - Greger

On 22 Feb 2001 23:46:38 GMT, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) wrote:

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>Jussi Kaskia <[email hidden]> writes: > >>The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at >>http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site >>without the ads). > >PS Tosi hieno rata! Suuret kiitokset! Eik� El�intarha sopisi seuraavaksi > projektiksi? :-)

Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta projektia k�ynniss�. Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) - Greger

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:04:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) wrote:

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>Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta >projektia k�ynniss�. > >Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n >k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) > - Greger

Here's the proof: Greger IS an ALIEN!! :) Andre "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds think alike." - David G Fisher

> 1. Does the installer say that both update of ini-files and install oftrack files went OK? YES > 2. Is the \tracks\keimola\ folder completely empty? YES > 3: Any error messages? NO Hope this helps you !

track files went OK? YES YES NO Hope this helps you !

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> > On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:04:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) > wrote: > > >Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta > >projektia k�ynniss�. > > > >Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n > >k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) > > > - Greger > > Here's the proof: Greger IS an ALIEN!! :) > > Andre > > "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds > think alike." - David G Fisher

No, he's not; he's only a proof of the old Ron Dennis saying, 'To finish first, first you must be Finnish!' -Gregor

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:13:07 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:04:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) >wrote: > >>Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta >>projektia k�ynniss�. >> >>Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n >>k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) > >> - Greger > >Here's the proof: Greger IS an ALIEN!! :)

Yeah, he must have lost his babelfish (for output)! :) Cheers, /Martin

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:15:12 +0100, "Marcus Bletz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hope this helps you ! Thanks. It gives me more info, but I still have no idea why this should happen. One of the most strange bugs I've seen. What OS do you use? Cheers, /Martin

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in ...

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:04:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) > wrote: > > >Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta > >projektia k�ynniss�. > > > >Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n > >k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) > > > - Greger > > Here's the proof: Greger IS an ALIEN!! :) >

Oh. I thought both of them were trying out their touch-typing skills... > Andre > > "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Greatminds > think alike." - David G FisherNice sig! -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +9.99 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:31:01 GMT, [email hidden] (Martin Granberg) wrote:

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>On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:15:12 +0100, "Marcus Bletz" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Hope this helps you ! > >Thanks. It gives me more info, but I still have no idea why this >should happen. One of the most strange bugs I've seen. > >What OS do you use? > >Cheers, > >/Martin

I didn't have time to install Keimola yet, but on the GPLEA forum I read something about manually renaming the .dat file to keimola.dat, maybe that will help? Andre Andre "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds think alike." - David G Fisher

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:37:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >I didn't have time to install Keimola yet, but on the GPLEA forum I >read something about manually renaming the .dat file to keimola.dat, >maybe that will help? Nope, doing that will definitely make the installer fail. The reason they renamed it was cause they installed it manually(which works). Cheers, /Martin

yes the keimola folder was empty, but the ini files were updated properly. Martin Granberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:35:35 GMT, "Marc Collins" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party > >track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a > >difference. > > I've got a few questions to you guys having problems installing the > track: > > 1. Does the installer say that both update of ini-files and install of > track files went OK? > > 2. Is the \tracks\keimola\ folder completely empty? > > 3: Any error messages? > > From what I know this is the first time the "stand alone" installer > was used, so I'm trying to hunt down any possible bugs. > > Cheers, > > /Martin > > >

see my previous post. Martin Granberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:37:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre > Warringa) wrote: > > >I didn't have time to install Keimola yet, but on the GPLEA forum I > >read something about manually renaming the .dat file to keimola.dat, > >maybe that will help? > > Nope, doing that will definitely make the installer fail. The reason > they renamed it was cause they installed it manually(which works). > > Cheers, > > /Martin >

oh yea, there was no error message either- said the installation was complete.wierd. track worked fine though, after i put all the files into the keimola folder that the installer created. Martin Granberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:37:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre > Warringa) wrote: > > >I didn't have time to install Keimola yet, but on the GPLEA forum I > >read something about manually renaming the .dat file to keimola.dat, > >maybe that will help? > > Nope, doing that will definitely make the installer fail. The reason > they renamed it was cause they installed it manually(which works). > > Cheers, > > /Martin >

That's what happened for me--it modified the ini files, made a keimola directory, but did not copy anything. I renamed the "dat" file to "keimola.dat" and it made no difference. I have my GPL on D under the default SIERRA\gpl folder. Should the main .dat file be named correctly? I also have no programme cover files... Perhaps the original Zip is faulty? Marc. "Greger Huttu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:01:27 GMT, "rik anthrax" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:X%jl6.301862$[email hidden]... > >> The track install program doesn't work for me -- first time a 3rd party > >> track hasn't installed. My GPL is on my "D:" drive if that makes a > >> difference. > > > >i noticed the .dat file was named incorrectly. once i renamed it to > >keimola.dat everything worked fine. > > Hmm, strange, the installer should definitely work without any changes > because I tried it few times myself and other people reported that it > worked, too. I also have GPL on D: drive so that's not the problem. > > One tester had problems with the installer because he didn't have \gpl > directory under \sierra. The installer modified the ini-files > correctly and created \keimola but didn't copy the files. Other than > that I can't think of anything else at the moment. > > Anyway, thanks for all the positive comments and feedback everyone, > it's really appreciated! :) > > - Greger

Jussi Kaskia <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:97461g$8qj$[email hidden]...

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> The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site > without the ads). > > Have fun, > The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia > > > > Well done guys, now that i know how hard it really is !!!

Greger Huttu <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>PS Tosi hieno rata! Suuret kiitokset! Eik� El�intarha sopisi seuraavaksi >> projektiksi? :-) > Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta > projektia k�ynniss�. > Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n > k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :)

No, no, no! Do the old Pyynikki track! Bremgartenish (narrow, dangerous, round the houses, round the forest, some cobblestones, even a bit of gravel), hosted WC motorcycle races in the sixties, and even car races in 1962-1963. http://www.dlc.fi/~kakeh/pyynikki/index.htm, http://www.info.tampere.fi/~ypyvapri/Ajot/ ... .) +Cinquo

> What OS do you use? WIN 98 SE

Good one, Gregor! Gregor Veble <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Andre Warringa wrote: > > > > On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:04:50 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) > > wrote: > > > > >Joo, voisihan se olla aika mielenkiintoinen tosin nyt on jo pari muuta > > >projektia k�ynniss�. > > > > > >Mutta jos siit� l�ytyy tarpeeksi infoa (mulla ei ole oikein mit��n > > >k�sityst� radasta) niin mik� ettei! :) > > > > > - Greger > > > > Here's the proof: Greger IS an ALIEN!! :) > > > > Andre > > > > "Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great

minds > > think alike." - David G Fisher > > No, he's not; he's only a proof of the old Ron Dennis saying, 'To finish > first, first you must be Finnish!' > > -Gregor

Had the same problem, fixed it by renaming the "dat" to files.dat, and using pack/unpack, or winmip's unpack feature, I unpacked the "files.dat". It created a temp directory and inside it was the keimola.dat file. I copied it and all the other files in the install directory, except for the "dat" file to the new keimola directory in the GPL/tracks directory and it worked fine. Hope this helps. "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hNtl6.59247$[email hidden]... > oh yea, there was no error message either- said the installation was > complete.wierd. track worked fine though, after i put all the files intothe

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> keimola folder that the installer created. > Martin Granberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:37:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre > > Warringa) wrote: > > > > >I didn't have time to install Keimola yet, but on the GPLEA forum I > > >read something about manually renaming the .dat file to keimola.dat, > > >maybe that will help? > > > > Nope, doing that will definitely make the installer fail. The reason > > they renamed it was cause they installed it manually(which works). > > > > Cheers, > > > > /Martin > > > >

I loaded Keimola but can not get it to come up in the game. I am running 46 tracks now is this too many for GPL or is something else worng? Tia.. Cheers Thom_j. "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:50zl6.164518$[email hidden]... | Good one, Gregor! |<snipped>

Fixed it!! Thanx for the info on the post that came up right after I posted by David & Martin.. Thanx Cheers Thom_j. "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HgAl6.7778$[email hidden]...

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| I loaded Keimola but can not get it to come up in the game. I am running | 46 tracks now is this too many for GPL or is something else worng? Tia.. | Cheers Thom_j. | | "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:50zl6.164518$[email hidden]... | | Good one, Gregor! | | | <snipped> | |

Jussi Kaskia wrote:

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> > The Finnish Keimola track has finally been released. Check it out at > http://turn.to/keimola or http://www.pp.htv.fi/jkaskia/keimola (same site > without the ads). > > Have fun, > The team: OPA Suominen, Greger Huttu and Jussi Kaskia

Great job guys! GPL get better and better by the day.:) Gerry

"Thom j." wrote: > > I loaded Keimola but can not get it to come up in the game. I am running > 46 tracks now is this too many for GPL or is something else worng? Tia.. > Cheers Thom_j. After adding maybe the 10th user made track I was getting sick of clicking through so many tracks (papy, use a scrolled list for track selection in GPL2! yeah, right! ;) As a solution I have three bat-files copying different 67season.ini files into the seasons directory. Of course, I have to decide what tracks I want to see (orig, oval or others) before I start GPL. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Great Idea Ronald!! I think I will give it a whirl? Btw: Where & how do you make the three 67season bat files for 67season.ini? Tia......Thom_j. "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| "Thom j." wrote: | > | > I loaded Keimola but can not get it to come up in the game. I am running | > 46 tracks now is this too many for GPL or is something else worng? Tia.. | > Cheers Thom_j. | | After adding maybe the 10th user made track I was getting sick of clicking | through so many tracks (papy, use a scrolled list for track selection in | GPL2! yeah, right! ;) | | As a solution I have three bat-files copying different 67season.ini files | into the seasons directory. Of course, I have to decide what tracks I want | to see (orig, oval or others) before I start GPL. | | -- | l8er | ronny | | Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change | to take effect. Reboot now? | |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, | ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. | |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

"Thom j." wrote: > > Great Idea Ronald!! I think I will give it a whirl? Btw: Where & > how do you make the three 67season bat files for 67season.ini? > Tia......Thom_j. Hmm, that's quite simple to do, but hard to describe... ;) Go into the 'seasons' directory in your GPL directory. Create 3 copies of the existing 67season.ini, e.g. orig_67season.ini conv_67season.ini oval_67season.ini and edit them to only contain the appropriate tracks. I put all converted road tracks into the conv file. Make sure to change the numEvents variable on line 4 to the correct number of tracks and that the numbering of the events [Event1]is correct, too. Now create 3 bat-files, e.g. origseason.bat convseason.bat ovalseason.bat containing nothing more than two lines, e.g. for origseason.bat @echo off cp orig_6~1.ini 67season.ini Make sure to find the correct short file names in a dos box, orig_67season.ini -> orig_6~1.ini (stupid dos ;) Now you can put links to the bat-files on your desktop. Have fun! (btw, I don't accept responsibility for formated harddrives or exploding monitors... ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> writes: >Hmm, that's quite simple to do, but hard to describe... ;) >Go into the 'seasons' directory in your GPL directory. Create >3 copies of the existing 67season.ini, e.g.... Ronald, thanks for yoyur clear explanation! One question though: Does your method corrupt the player.ini? Or more technically: Is 67season.ini's first 11 items used to calculate the player.ini? It would be bad for example for sending it to GPLRank... Arto

Arto Wikla wrote: > > Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Hmm, that's quite simple to do, but hard to describe... ;)snip > Ronald, thanks for yoyur clear explanation! > One question though: Does your method corrupt the player.ini? > Or more technically: Is 67season.ini's first 11 items used > to calculate the player.ini? It would be bad for example for > sending it to GPLRank... The 67season.ini only contains the available tracks. The file player.ini is updated with your personal lap times. But I'm not sure if lap times of tracks are removed from it just because they are not in the current season file anymore. Anybody know? -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Thanx Ronald! It does seem that confusing & if so I will *blame* you! Sorry couldnt resist... <G> Only joking on the *blame* Thanx Again! Cheers Thom_j. "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| "Thom j." wrote: | > | > Great Idea Ronald!! I think I will give it a whirl? Btw: Where & | > how do you make the three 67season bat files for 67season.ini? | > Tia......Thom_j. | | Hmm, that's quite simple to do, but hard to describe... ;) | | Go into the 'seasons' directory in your GPL directory. Create | 3 copies of the existing 67season.ini, e.g. | | orig_67season.ini | conv_67season.ini | oval_67season.ini | | and edit them to only contain the appropriate tracks. I put all | converted road tracks into the conv file. Make sure to change | the numEvents variable on line 4 to the correct number of tracks | and that the numbering of the events [Event1]is correct, too. | | Now create 3 bat-files, e.g. | | origseason.bat | convseason.bat | ovalseason.bat | | containing nothing more than two lines, e.g. for origseason.bat | | @echo off | cp orig_6~1.ini 67season.ini | | Make sure to find the correct short file names in a dos box, | orig_67season.ini -> orig_6~1.ini (stupid dos ;) | | Now you can put links to the bat-files on your desktop. | | Have fun! (btw, I don't accept responsibility for formated | harddrives or exploding monitors... ;) | | -- | l8er | ronny | | Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change | to take effect. Reboot now? | |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, | ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. | |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!