I'VE HAD IT!!

These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded from the 6.31 drivers to the Detonator 3 6.50's just a couple of days ago because, in one reviewers words, "you will see up to 50% faster graphics!" Although it didn't help me at all in N4, FPS staying exactly the same, I went to GPL for the first time in a couple of weeks and I can't get anything over 18 FPS!!! DADBLASTIT! I make the assumption that it's the new drivers so I go get the 6.31's that I had before, uninstall the 6.50's, install the 6.31's and now I am really ticked! I mean I am just going to go ahead and have a CONIPTION FIT! No change in GPL and now I have lost 10 FPS on N4! CRIMINY!! HEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!! SYSTEM Dell P-3 600 256 ram sblive Geforce 256 Voodoo 2 Before all of this, in N4 I was getting 39-42 FPS in D3D mode (open gl was slower for me) - Dega - back of the pack with details turned down some (I'm now getting 32 FPS). On GPL I was getting a rock steady 36 FPS (now 18 FPS) Other than the drivers, I haven't changed anything. I have made sure the settings in display are correct and have made sure I have everything correct in GPL. Lettering in GPL looks slightly fuzzy. Help me please! I beg of you all! You don't want to see a grown man crack... Mike

Not sure where you read that the 6.50's would give you a 50% performance boost, but that certainly is not the case, at least not over any of the prior Det3 drivers. As far as your framerates going down in N4 by going back to the 6.31's, check and make sure anti-aliasing is off and vertical synch is off. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded from the > 6.31 drivers to the Detonator 3 6.50's just a couple of days ago because, in > one reviewers words, "you will see up to 50% faster graphics!" Although it > didn't help me at all in N4, FPS staying exactly the same, I went to GPL for > the first time in a couple of weeks and I can't get anything over 18 FPS!!! > DADBLASTIT! > I make the assumption that it's the new drivers so I go get the 6.31's that I > had before, uninstall the 6.50's, install the 6.31's and now I am really > ticked! I mean I am just going to go ahead and have a CONIPTION FIT! > No change in GPL and now I have lost 10 FPS on N4! CRIMINY!! > HEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!! > > SYSTEM > Dell P-3 600 > 256 ram > sblive > Geforce 256 > Voodoo 2 > > Before all of this, in N4 I was getting 39-42 FPS in D3D mode (open gl was > slower for me) - Dega - back of the pack with details turned down some (I'm now > getting 32 FPS). On GPL I was getting a rock steady 36 FPS (now 18 FPS) > > Other than the drivers, I haven't changed anything. I have made sure the > settings in display are correct and have made sure I have everything correct in > GPL. Lettering in GPL looks slightly fuzzy. > > Help me please! I beg of you all! You don't want to see a grown man crack... > > Mike

On 25 Feb 2001 00:53:34 GMT, [email hidden] (Race1530) wrote: <snip> >Help me please! I beg of you all! You don't want to see a grown man crack... > >Mike Uninstall the drivers -exactly- as being explained in this guide: http://www.3dgpu.com/tweaking/index.cfm (delete them from the registry, manually delete some inf files, yadayada) and then reinstall the 6.31 drivers. Andre

I have re-installed the drivers and that took care of GPL, but I have still suffered the frame hit on N4. Oh well, I will just keep hacking away. Thanks for the help. Mike

"Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded fromthe > 6.31 drivers to the Detonator 3 6.50's just a couple of days ago because,in > one reviewers words, "you will see up to 50% faster graphics!" This is not meant to offend, but if you believe installing new drivers is going to get you a 50% faster graphics-- I'm assuming this means higher fps-- then you're crazier than I thought a person could be. Sure, if you get 2 fps installing might get you 3. But if you get 30 I doubt you'll see 45 because of the installation. Frame rates are so dependent on such subtle things that for anyone to say you'll get this or that increase-- he's just talking like an adman. Still, try installing the drivers again or looking at how your system is running to try to increase your fps. Alanb

You didn't offend. But, no, I didn't expect to see 50% faster graphics. Since I only believe about half of what any reviewer says, and my mother taught me to believe half of that, yeah, I figured to pick up 4-5 fps a sec. That would have been worth it. As for re-installing, forget it. I just got everything back where is was. Thanks, Mike

I get the same GPL frame-rates with 6.31 and 6.50. "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded fromthe <snip> > Help me please! I beg of you all! You don't want to see a grown mancrack... > > Mike

I get the same GPL frame-rates with 6.31 and 6.50. the <snip>

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> You didn't offend. But, no, I didn't expect to see 50% faster > graphics. Since I only believe about half of what any reviewer > says, and my mother taught me to believe half of that, yeah, I > figured to pick up 4-5 fps a sec. That would have been worth it. > As for re-installing, forget it. I just got everything back where > is was. > Thanks, > Mike

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Direct from Nvidia website: Note the 50% deal NVIDIA's Detonator 3 (D3) instantly increases the processing power of the NVIDIA-based GeForce, and GeForce2 family of graphic accelerators by up to 50%. You'll be amazed at how much faster and better your games, multimedia, and other 3D applications will run. In addition to significant performance increases, D3's feature "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a3fm6.6806$[email hidden]...

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> I get the same GPL frame-rates with 6.31 and 6.50. > > "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded from > the > <snip> > > Help me please! I beg of you all! You don't want to see a grown man > crack... > > > > Mike > >

...but 6.31 and 6.50 are *both* Detonator 3 drivers, so indeed are 6.18, which were the first official D3 drivers. Detonator 3 means 6.xx onwards. nVidia are comparing 6.18 with the last 5.xx drivers in this statement. Anyway, no one should believe statistic from video card manufacturers, they're always 'best case' statistics. "Dave So" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hRtm6.20319$[email hidden]... > Direct from Nvidia website: Note the 50% deal > > NVIDIA's Detonator 3 (D3) instantly increases the processing power of the > NVIDIA-based GeForce, and GeForce2 family of graphic accelerators by up to > 50%. You'll be amazed at how much faster and better your games,multimedia, > and other 3D applications will run. In addition to significantperformance > increases, D3's feature > >

the key words are: 'by up to' that could mean anything from zero improvement to 50%. So anything that falls within that range will be a correct statement. dave henrie "Dave So" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hRtm6.20319$[email hidden]... > Direct from Nvidia website: Note the 50% deal > > NVIDIA's Detonator 3 (D3) instantly increases the processing power of the > NVIDIA-based GeForce, and GeForce2 family of graphic accelerators by up to > 50%. You'll be amazed at how much faster and better your games,multimedia, > and other 3D applications will run. In addition to significantperformance

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> increases, D3's feature > > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:a3fm6.6806$[email hidden]... > > I get the same GPL frame-rates with 6.31 and 6.50. > > > > "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > These stupid gosh darn piece of garbage NVIDIA drivers! I upgraded

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Dave So wrote: > > Direct from Nvidia website: Note the 50% deal > > NVIDIA's Detonator 3 (D3) instantly increases the processing power of the > NVIDIA-based GeForce, and GeForce2 family of graphic accelerators by up to ^^^^^ > 50%. ^^^ Key phrase here. *UP TO* 50% increase. -- Fester