N4 Track tire wear = not realistic

Has anyone else noticed a problem with this? I was running a race a Daytona today and the car started pushing real bad around lap 15-18. I managed to hang on by driving real smooth for awhile but to my amazement my tire's were in the red around lap 27. By lap 32 I could no longer hold on. I went to pit but blew the right front as I was braking for pit lane. I was using the fast setup that came with the game. I watched the race from the leader at that point because I couldn't believe that I had wasted the tires that quick. I wanted to see what I was doing wrong. The leaders started pitting around lap 52 - 54. How can they make it that much longer? I checked the track_tire wear line in the track.ini file and to my amazement it was set to 4.5!!!! This does not seem right. I tried different settings with different results but I am not sure what is the most realistic. What is everyone else out there using? I don't want to cheat, just want realism. Is it just me? Do I suck that bad? I can't see that you can squeeze another 20 laps out of your tires especially at a place like Daytona. Do I need to change the tire heat settings, grip?????

I can drive the Fast Setup around Daytona until my fuel runs out normally. There are alot of things that come into play with Tire Wear. Temperature, wind, drafting.. and just overall driving style. Maybe you are turning the wheel too hard to the left as you enter the turn and are scrubbing the tires.. shrug, hard to say without watching you drive or being there. The fast setup is a very shaky setup at Daytona.. it is hard to keep on the bottom of the track. If you are forcing it to stay on the bottom of the track, you are probably wearing down your tires more than you should. Try stabalizing the setup so that you do not have to force it to stay on the bottom, but so that it wants to stay there. You will then get better tire wear. N4 is VERY realistic when it comes to these things. You now actually have to work with setups like the Big Boys do in Nascar to get the car to handle the way you want. "coolbreeze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Has anyone else noticed a problem with this? I was running a race a > Daytona today and the car started pushing real bad around lap 15-18. I > managed to hang on by driving real smooth for awhile but to my > amazement my tire's were in the red around lap 27. By lap 32 I could > no longer hold on. I went to pit but blew the right front as I was > braking for pit lane. I was using the fast setup that came with the > game. I watched the race from the leader at that point because I > couldn't believe that I had wasted the tires that quick. I wanted to > see what I was doing wrong. The leaders started pitting around lap 52 > - 54. How can they make it that much longer? I checked the track_tire > wear line in the track.ini file and to my amazement it was set to > 4.5!!!! This does not seem right. I tried different settings with > different results but I am not sure what is the most realistic. What > is everyone else out there using? I don't want to cheat, just want > realism. Is it just me? Do I suck that bad? I can't see that you can > squeeze another 20 laps out of your tires especially at a place like > Daytona. Do I need to change the tire heat settings, grip?????

Agreed, this seems very realistic. If your setup isn't right, or if you are running a line that is hard on the tires you really wear the tires out and the handle really goes fast. On many Sundays we've seen cars drop speed midway into a fuel run for this same season. JTRIV Cliff Roman wrote:

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> I can drive the Fast Setup around Daytona until my fuel runs out normally. > > There are alot of things that come into play with Tire Wear. Temperature, > wind, drafting.. and just overall driving style. Maybe you are turning the > wheel too hard to the left as you enter the turn and are scrubbing the > tires.. shrug, hard to say without watching you drive or being there. > > The fast setup is a very shaky setup at Daytona.. it is hard to keep on the > bottom of the track. If you are forcing it to stay on the bottom of the > track, you are probably wearing down your tires more than you should. > > Try stabalizing the setup so that you do not have to force it to stay on the > bottom, but so that it wants to stay there. You will then get better tire > wear. > > N4 is VERY realistic when it comes to these things. You now actually have > to work with setups like the Big Boys do in Nascar to get the car to handle > the way you want. > > "coolbreeze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Has anyone else noticed a problem with this? I was running a race a > > Daytona today and the car started pushing real bad around lap 15-18. I > > managed to hang on by driving real smooth for awhile but to my > > amazement my tire's were in the red around lap 27. By lap 32 I could > > no longer hold on. I went to pit but blew the right front as I was > > braking for pit lane. I was using the fast setup that came with the > > game. I watched the race from the leader at that point because I > > couldn't believe that I had wasted the tires that quick. I wanted to > > see what I was doing wrong. The leaders started pitting around lap 52 > > - 54. How can they make it that much longer? I checked the track_tire > > wear line in the track.ini file and to my amazement it was set to > > 4.5!!!! This does not seem right. I tried different settings with > > different results but I am not sure what is the most realistic. What > > is everyone else out there using? I don't want to cheat, just want > > realism. Is it just me? Do I suck that bad? I can't see that you can > > squeeze another 20 laps out of your tires especially at a place like > > Daytona. Do I need to change the tire heat settings, grip?????

At Daytona Rusty blew his tire just before the first round of pitstops...Waltrip said he had a history of too much camber and not enough air pressure. Isn't it amazing....with gpl it was EVERYONE wanting to EDIT the grip levels. and now with N4, rather than fix a setup or learn how the tire is affected, or even dloading other setups...we have many users that want to EDIT the track file rather than compete. That's not a personal flame, just a general observation. dave henrie "JTRIV" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Agreed, this seems very realistic. If your setup isn't right, or if youare > running a line that is hard on the tires you really wear the tires out andthe > handle really goes fast. On many Sundays we've seen cars drop speed midwayinto

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> a fuel run for this same season. > > JTRIV > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > I can drive the Fast Setup around Daytona until my fuel runs out

normally. > > > > There are alot of things that come into play with Tire Wear.Temperature, > > wind, drafting.. and just overall driving style. Maybe you are turningthe > > wheel too hard to the left as you enter the turn and are scrubbing the > > tires.. shrug, hard to say without watching you drive or being there. > > > > The fast setup is a very shaky setup at Daytona.. it is hard to keep onthe > > bottom of the track. If you are forcing it to stay on the bottom of the > > track, you are probably wearing down your tires more than you should. > > > > Try stabalizing the setup so that you do not have to force it to stay onthe > > bottom, but so that it wants to stay there. You will then get bettertire > > wear. > > > > N4 is VERY realistic when it comes to these things. You now actuallyhave > > to work with setups like the Big Boys do in Nascar to get the car tohandle

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> > the way you want. > > > > "coolbreeze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Has anyone else noticed a problem with this? I was running a race a > > > Daytona today and the car started pushing real bad around lap 15-18. I > > > managed to hang on by driving real smooth for awhile but to my > > > amazement my tire's were in the red around lap 27. By lap 32 I could > > > no longer hold on. I went to pit but blew the right front as I was > > > braking for pit lane. I was using the fast setup that came with the > > > game. I watched the race from the leader at that point because I > > > couldn't believe that I had wasted the tires that quick. I wanted to > > > see what I was doing wrong. The leaders started pitting around lap 52 > > > - 54. How can they make it that much longer? I checked the track_tire > > > wear line in the track.ini file and to my amazement it was set to > > > 4.5!!!! This does not seem right. I tried different settings with > > > different results but I am not sure what is the most realistic. What > > > is everyone else out there using? I don't want to cheat, just want > > > realism. Is it just me? Do I suck that bad? I can't see that you can > > > squeeze another 20 laps out of your tires especially at a place like > > > Daytona. Do I need to change the tire heat settings, grip????? >

"coolbreeze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Has anyone else noticed a problem with this? I was running a race a > Daytona today and the car started pushing real bad around lap 15-18. I > managed to hang on by driving real smooth for awhile but to my > amazement my tire's were in the red around lap 27. By lap 32 I could > no longer hold on. I went to pit but blew the right front as I was > braking for pit lane. Did you watch the Daytona 500? That's not too far removed from the point where Rusty Wallace blew his right front, if memory serves. Setups on most tracks are a tradeoff. Lots of setups that let you take the turns like a dream eat the hell out of your rubber just like you describe, both in real life and in the sim. Jerry Morelock

What line are you taking (low, mid, high) on average, and did you make any adjustments to the "FAST" setup? Thanks in advance Cheers >I can drive the Fast Setup around Daytona until my fuel runs out normally. >

Not when your running consistent low 46s at 102% you cant Cliff Roman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:979rs3$smi$[email hidden]... > I can drive the Fast Setup around Daytona until my fuel runs out normally. >