LWFF - cables lose

I had a bit of a disaster last night. Just before I was due to start my league race as well - the cables inside my LWFF decided to pop off the spindles inside!! Nothing to get the adrenaline going like a broken wheel when time is not on your side. Anyway, I popped off the top to have a look inside and damn, there are cables everywhere. Tried to work it out myself and had no chance. I did a quick hunt around for a site and eventually came up with this little gem: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ Thanks to Jens Schumi!! He has a very thorough walk through in his ball bearing manual on how to get those babies back on. I consider myself pretty handy but there is no way I would have worked it out. I had to do it 3 times to get it right and overall the process took me 4 hours. The wheel is smooth and works. However, the FF effects seem greatly reduced. Kind of like if you set the damping too high in GPL. I can feel them but barely. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? I can't see any cables crossed over and I was careful not to damage the motor or cables. I'm wondering if something got shorted. Maybe it's time to tell my GF that I need a replacement wheel. :-) The problem is I want a LWFF as I have had it since they first came out and IMO nothing comes close. I use CHPro pedals or heavily modified LWFF ones with it depending on the sim. Are there any online stores still selling the original? This one could then go on my new LAN setup as well. BTW don't hit the wheel stoppers too hard when turning the wheel - I learnt the hard way. Darren -- --------------------------------------------------------- TopGear Offline GP3 League http://topgear.dhs.org/cgi-bin/main/ In line with the F1 Calendar ---------------------------------------------------------

On February 25 2001, "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> wrote: > The wheel is smooth > and works. However, the FF effects seem greatly reduced. Kind of like > if you set the damping too high in GPL. I can feel them but barely. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? You prob have stretched the springs on the ends of the cables a little when refitting it 3 times<S> Little buggers aint they! The tension of the cables wrapped round the motor shaft may not now be enough for the same forces you had before so they slip a bit giving less FF feel. Jens is the Guy to chat with on this, he will be along later no doubt, but you could try shortening the cables a small amount with a knot where its not going to matter to increase the tension. I am working on a new cables kit for the LWFF and if/when I ever get round to finishing it, I hope to have some sort of minor adjustment on it for tensioning. Good luck. MikeT. -- - MikeT [email hidden] http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

MikeT wrote: > I am working on a new cables kit for the LWFF and if/when I ever get > round to finishing it, I hope to have some sort of minor adjustment on > it for tensioning. Put me on the list for one of those too :). Best Gerry

Whooo! Yes I'm interested. Actually your suggestion makes a lot of sense as I did have to pull those little buggers to get the cables fitted. Gonna have another look tomorrow, but first I need a couple of hours free, :-) Darren --------------------------------------------------------- TopGear Offline GP3 League http://topgear.dhs.org/cgi-bin/main/ In line with the F1 Calendar --------------------------------------------------------- "MikeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : On February 25 2001, "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> : wrote: : : > The wheel is smooth : > and works. However, the FF effects seem greatly reduced. Kind of like : > if you set the damping too high in GPL. I can feel them but barely. : > : > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? : : You prob have stretched the springs on the ends of the cables a little : when refitting it 3 times<S> Little buggers aint they! : : The tension of the cables wrapped round the motor shaft may not now be : enough for the same forces you had before so they slip a bit giving less : FF feel. : : Jens is the Guy to chat with on this, he will be along later no doubt, : but you could try shortening the cables a small amount with a knot where : its not going to matter to increase the tension. : : I am working on a new cables kit for the LWFF and if/when I ever get : round to finishing it, I hope to have some sort of minor adjustment on : it for tensioning. : : Good luck. : : MikeT. : : -- : - MikeT [email hidden] : : http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm : :

I tied a knot on the main one and granted its not quite as smooth as it use to be but its very nice in the FF and everything else,( been thinking about putting a knot in the big pulley, i've also been thinking about getting jens BB kit to make it much smooother !! Rd "MikeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On February 25 2001, "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> > wrote: > > > The wheel is smooth > > and works. However, the FF effects seem greatly reduced. Kind of like > > if you set the damping too high in GPL. I can feel them but barely. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? > > You prob have stretched the springs on the ends of the cables a little > when refitting it 3 times<S> Little buggers aint they! > > The tension of the cables wrapped round the motor shaft may not now be > enough for the same forces you had before so they slip a bit giving less > FF feel. > > Jens is the Guy to chat with on this, he will be along later no doubt, > but you could try shortening the cables a small amount with a knot where > its not going to matter to increase the tension. > > I am working on a new cables kit for the LWFF and if/when I ever get > round to finishing it, I hope to have some sort of minor adjustment on > it for tensioning. > > Good luck. > > MikeT. > > -- > - MikeT [email hidden] > > http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm > >

On February 25 2001, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> MikeT wrote: > >> I am working on a new cables kit for the LWFF and if/when I ever get >> round to finishing it, I hope to have some sort of minor adjustment >> on it for tensioning. > > Put me on the list for one of those too :). > > Best > > Gerry

What about the replacement motors, paddle switch repair kits and pedals Gerry, without those you still havnt got all the options<BG> Cheers. MikeT. -- - MikeT [email hidden] http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

If tension is too low so that the cable slips through, you can clearly hear that. Are all effects low (incl. centering force) or only the FF? JensSchumi

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>On February 25 2001, "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> >wrote: > >> The wheel is smooth >> and works. However, the FF effects seem greatly reduced. Kind of like >> if you set the damping too high in GPL. I can feel them but barely. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? >

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