GPL: starting line technique

OK, without a real clutch (using keypad 2 for clutch), how the heck do ya get away from the starting line with any accuracy and speed? If I rev it and pop the clutch, revs drop to near zero and then it starts to move slowly, then maybe break loose and fishtail. It's a bitch to actually get decent grid position against the AI, only to have then rocket past at the start.

Unfortunately, the AI get their own, simplified physics model (otherwise you'd need a Cray) which means they are untroubled by what you are experiencing. It's sorta like the old joke, "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" "Practice, my boy, practice!" <g> I usually bring the revs up to around 4k, dump the clutch, and modulate the throttle so the forward speed intersects the wheel speed within a second or two. I've not seen the benefit of dumping the clutch at redline, or I'm simply inexperienced. Go to Monza--off line-- and use those nice, long straights to practice standing starts. Over, and over, and over... Regards, Brett C. Cammack brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)

I rev the engine up to about 1-2K below redline...when green drops, dump the clutch and add a little more gas (it will redline the motor...don't worry, it is just for a very short time)...you need to get the tires spinning...now use the spinning tires as your clutch instead of a real clutch...as the car gets moving, let out some gas so you aren't redlining anymore and are running about 1-2k below redline, still spinning the tires...you will know when the tires begin to really grab because the revs drop down (about 4-5 seconds after you get moving) about 1K or so...once the revs drop from the tires catching (less tire squeal and revs drop a bit) floor the gas and grab second a short time later. It all happens real fast but basically, try to spin the tires to keep the revs up near the redline throughout the start so you never lose power. If you would like, I can send you a replay of one of my starts...just send me a mail at [email hidden] ...BTW, get ready to be lifting off the gas to keep from hitting people once you get this method down right, it will rocket you. Jesse Black

Well there are 2 points in your answer... 1. the AI cars have warm tires AT THE START OF THE RACE, yes I know they cheat, but it's like that, no wheelspin for them. 2. Knowing this the best I have managed is the following, this is using the lotus so it might be different in the RPM but not too much unless you use the ferrari then you can add 1500 to all numbers. Be on 1st gear, with clutch engaged at 7000 rpm, when the flag moves, BEFORE releasing the clutch make a blip with the throttle, if you do it right when you are starting to move in 1st you are just at the limit of wheelspin but going...the revs will go down to 5000 or so and when you get back to 7000 you will start to have wheelspin because of the cold tires, the shift 2nd, very early, you will lose a bit of momentum compared to the others but not too much. If the track you are racing on is one where you never use 1st then in the settings make your 1st longer that what you would do, so you don't have all that wheelspin. Good luck "MK" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: NqZn6.144$[email hidden]... > OK, without a real clutch (using keypad 2 for clutch), how the heck do ya > get away from the starting line with any accuracy and speed? If I rev itand

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> pop the clutch, revs drop to near zero and then it starts to move slowly, > then maybe break loose and fishtail. It's a bitch to actually get decent > grid position against the AI, only to have then rocket past at the start. > > > > >

Do what you're already doing, but as you drop the clutch floor the throttle (almost) and then moderate it to control your wheelspin. Practice this at Monza in a Testing session. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +10.02 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "MK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NqZn6.144$[email hidden]... > OK, without a real clutch (using keypad 2 for clutch), how the heck do ya > get away from the starting line with any accuracy and speed? If I rev it and > pop the clutch, revs drop to near zero and then it starts to move slowly, > then maybe break loose and fishtail. It's a bitch to actually get decent > grid position against the AI, only to have then rocket past at the start. > > > > >

Check out the info posted here: http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/Starting.html MK <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NqZn6.144$[email hidden]... > OK, without a real clutch (using keypad 2 for clutch), how the heck do ya > get away from the starting line with any accuracy and speed? If I rev itand

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> pop the clutch, revs drop to near zero and then it starts to move slowly, > then maybe break loose and fishtail. It's a bitch to actually get decent > grid position against the AI, only to have then rocket past at the start. > > > > >

Check out the info posted here: http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/Starting.html

Oh hell, I guess I'll put in my 2 cents. I drive the Ferrari, so this is what I do. Engage first gear while at idle (to prevent roll out) bring the rpms up to about 10:00 o'clock on the dial, dump the clutch and floor it. Immediately ease out, controlling the tire spin. Just as the tires grab (when you can just feel the car wanting to pivot hard) short shift into second and keep er' straight. At the start I never look at the tach, I just listen and try to feel the car. And again, just my 2 cents, but I'd rather lose a postion and keep going in a straight line than pass three guys, the car grabs and hooks and suddenly the cursing begins, followed by the very well worn and weary "Sorry." Mike

I lay it flat until the rear end is just about to slip then go 50% on the throttle and keep putting it on gradually... don't go to 2nd until you really need it!! MK <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NqZn6.144$[email hidden]... > OK, without a real clutch (using keypad 2 for clutch), how the heck do ya > get away from the starting line with any accuracy and speed? If I rev itand

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> pop the clutch, revs drop to near zero and then it starts to move slowly, > then maybe break loose and fishtail. It's a bitch to actually get decent > grid position against the AI, only to have then rocket past at the start. > > > >

I use to do the exact same start Mike.. It helped me alot to stay up with many of the hotshoes when GPL first came out a 100yrs ago...lol Thom_j. "Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Oh hell, I guess I'll put in my 2 cents. I drive the Ferrari, so this iswhat | I do. Engage first gear while at idle (to prevent roll out) bring therpms up | to about 10:00 o'clock on the dial, dump the clutch and floor it.Immediately | ease out, controlling the tire spin. Just as the tires grab (when you canjust | feel the car wanting to pivot hard) short shift into second and keep er' | straight. At the start I never look at the tach, I just listen and try tofeel | the car. | And again, just my 2 cents, but I'd rather lose a postion and keep goingin a | straight line than pass three guys, the car grabs and hooks and suddenlythe | cursing begins, followed by the very well worn and weary "Sorry." | | Mike