Theory: Why Americans are so bad at F1 sims

In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far behind the rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other countries...and so far no sim has model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once that oversight is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the world will do when they have to drive with one hand like most Americans do these days? dave henrie

LoL Dave, You are one funny man! I give the post of the week and now you come back with a better "retort" then the other.. What are we going to do with you? hahahaha Touche` Dave Touche` "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]... <snipped> | What is missing? | No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.<snipped again> | dave henrie

here's an American flipping you the middle finger as he passes, as Americans sometimes do. <G> Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]...

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.

Once > that oversight > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest ofthe > world will do when they have to drive with one > hand like most Americans do these days? > dave henrie > >

LOL! ROTFPP!!!! I nominate THIS as the "post of the week"!!!!!!!!!! -- JB F1CS2K Rank Handicap 58.350 (just a couple of points ahead of Dave, BTW <G>) http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/ On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:06:42 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far >behind the >rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I >have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other >countries...and so far no sim has >model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once >that oversight >is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. >After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads >crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the >world will do when they have to drive with one >hand like most Americans do these days? >dave henrie > >

I'm working on a new plug-in for F1, which simulates keeping track of lap times on a palm organizer. Of course you have to steer with your knees. Brian "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]...

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.

Once > that oversight > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest ofthe > world will do when they have to drive with one > hand like most Americans do these days? > dave henrie > >

On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:55:40 -0800, Someotherdude<[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once >>that oversight >>is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > > >Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a >BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street >while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking >as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into >a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never >even knew about her error. >

Almost every time that I get on my cell phone while driving I almost kill myself and 3 or 4 other people. But I will stop when abortion is ended.. since that is much more idiotic than driving while on a cell phone. :) RB

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:06:42 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far >behind the >rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I >have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other >countries...and so far no sim has >model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once >that oversight >is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. >After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads >crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the >world will do when they have to drive with one >hand like most Americans do these days? >dave henrie > >

hmm. It works until you realise the rest of the world seems to drive the same way. Certainly seems to be the case here in Oz. DG

Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and race...

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving...

The title of this thread got my flamethrower going even before I opened the article. But, good one! LOL. Don't forget that we also will need cupholders on our wheel housings, for that 32 Oz. Big Gulp... briGuy

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> Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass > where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the > place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding > behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the > world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut > it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and > race... > > >

HAHA I thought Dave's subject was funny, but maybe this is even funnier. If only for it's complete idiocy. Calm down there, Buckweat Zideco. (If your post was meant in jest, try some /sarcasm tags or a smiley :) ) MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

[various screaming, yelling, WWF trash-talking, and general rampant stupidity snipped] I suppose none of you chest-thumpers noticed that the original post said "we Americans," was written by Dave Henrie -- a gent who's as American as Apple Pie and full automatic weapons, and was thoroughly tongue-in-cheek? Watta buncha goons!

NO Don , I'm not a S.P. hiding behind my computer. And I truly am an American.(and said as much a couple of times in the original post.) Traveled throughout the West, Lived in two States. With the exception of a few days in Canada, I have never left the country. I am, and have said so here MANY times, a ridiculously BAD sim racer. But I enjoy it and I find humour(or at least I thought I did) in mine and other's lack of speed. Bird flip accepted, I should have put a smiley in there somewhere. Have fun dave henrie "Don Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Enso6.11159$[email hidden]... > Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep yourass > where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all overthe > place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding > behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county inthe > world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing Americanshut > it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all dayand > race... > >

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>Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass >where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the >place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding >behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the >world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut >it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and >race...

1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke. 2) *You're* the one hiding behind a computer screen making threats. 3) Country has an "r" in it. 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. 5) *Plonk* -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Thanks everyone for standing up for me. No harm, done here tho. I appreciate the support. (must learn to use :) more often) dave henrie "> 1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke.

Sorry, have to disagree, America is the best count(r)y in which to live and prosper.... its Americans that are the problem.. 8-) G Patricks

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>On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:45:42 +0000, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass >>where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the >>place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding >>behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the >>world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut >>it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and >>race... > >1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke. >2) *You're* the one hiding behind a computer screen making threats. >3) Country has an "r" in it. >4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. >5) *Plonk*

Meet me in VROC chat at 9PM PST Sunday for a good old fashioned U.S. Whoopin, you can pick the track...

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far >behind the >rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I >have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other >countries...and so far no sim has >model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.

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>that oversight >is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. >After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads >crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the >world will do when they have to drive with one >hand like most Americans do these days? >dave henrie

Okay, little confession here: I *work* for a cell phone company. We don't encourage people talking while driving, but, in an attempt to make it safer we give a hands free earpiece with each phone. So, what does that have to do with anything? Well, I actually had a set of headphones on while racing (roomie was sleeping at the time), and answered a phonecall with it in. Found out how comfortable those NASCAR drivers must be while using those earpices in the cars/trucks. Razorback wrote:

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> On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:55:40 -0800, Someotherdude<[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once > >>that oversight > >>is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > > > > > >Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a > >BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street > >while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking > >as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into > >a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never > >even knew about her error. > > > > Almost every time that I get on my cell phone while driving I almost > kill myself and 3 or 4 other people. > > But I will stop when abortion is ended.. since that is much more > idiotic than driving while on a cell phone. :) > > RB

Graeme Nash wrote: > 1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke. > 2) *You're* the one hiding behind a computer screen making threats. > 3) Country has an "r" in it. Then you're not from around here... :) > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. Since when? > 5) *Plonk* *Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:45:11 GMT, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>[various screaming, yelling, WWF trash-talking, and general rampant >stupidity snipped] > >I suppose none of you chest-thumpers noticed that the original post said >"we Americans," was written by Dave Henrie -- a gent who's as American >as Apple Pie and full automatic weapons, and was thoroughly >tongue-in-cheek? Watta buncha goons!

Especially since more non-American's use cell phones than Americans. RB

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> >>Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass >>where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the >>place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding >>behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the >>world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut >>it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and >>race... > >1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke. >2) *You're* the one hiding behind a computer screen making threats. >3) Country has an "r" in it. >4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. >5) *Plonk*

Response to #4... yes it is. I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. RB

Don Rodriguez wrote in message ... >Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass >where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all overthe >place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding >behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the >world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut >it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and >race... > I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the greatest country in the world... Sjoerd

>I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have >traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries >and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. >However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country >on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. I lived in LA for two months, does that count? :-) FWIW, I've also lived in the Canary Islands and Bangkok. I've spent most of my life in London and realise they all have good and bad points :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makes you 4 times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device did NOT reduce that number. Mike Donnelly Jr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Okay, little confession here: I *work* for a cell phone company. We don't > encourage people talking while driving, but, in an attempt to make itsafer we > give a hands free earpiece with each phone. So, what does that have to dowith > anything? Well, I actually had a set of headphones on while racing(roomie was

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> sleeping at the time), and answered a phonecall with it in. Found out how > comfortable those NASCAR drivers must be while using those earpices in the > cars/trucks. > > Razorback wrote: > > > On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:55:40 -0800, Someotherdude<[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > >> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.

Once > > >>that oversight > > >>is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through therankings.

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> > > > > > > > >Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a > > >BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street > > >while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking > > >as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into > > >a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never > > >even knew about her error. > > > > > > > Almost every time that I get on my cell phone while driving I almost > > kill myself and 3 or 4 other people. > > > > But I will stop when abortion is ended.. since that is much more > > idiotic than driving while on a cell phone. :) > > > > RB >

Then you are either ignorant, or a fool! LOL! Stick your head out your window, that sound you hear is the echo of the US conquering Europe. Enjoy the EU. (another LOL thrown in here...)

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> I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the > greatest country in the world... > > Sjoerd > > > >

i forgot my smiley. :) (btw- i'm eating a big juicy burger, mmmmmmm, good) rik anthrax <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:irxo6.14138$[email hidden]... > Then you are either ignorant, or a fool! > LOL! Stick your head out your window, that sound you hear is the echo ofthe

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> US conquering Europe. Enjoy the EU. (another LOL thrown in here...) > > > I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the > > greatest country in the world... > > > > Sjoerd > > > > > > > > > >

Sjoerd de Roest wrote: > > I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the > greatest country in the world... Really. And I live here... -- Fester

Wrong! Act Labs has an RS Star-Tac add-on pack for $39.99. It includes 200 minutes a month talk time, which is a pretty good deal. But I still think you're wrong, the cell phone isn't what's missing. American's, myself included, need a "road rage" feature to get us going. Ideally this will be a foreigner with diplomatic plates driving without any regard for local laws. Although I guess saying a diplomat disregards local driving laws would be redundant ;-). If this person was simulated as the leader in an F1 race sim, American's would have no trouble catching up and passing. The only problem is that after passing, we'd be unable to avoid the uncontrollable urge to slam on the brakes in order to scare the crap out of the guy ;-). -- Joe Marques "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]... > In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once > that oversight > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the > world will do when they have to drive with one > hand like most Americans do these days? > dave henrie > >

Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane asylum. rik anthrax wrote:

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> Then you are either ignorant, or a fool! > LOL! Stick your head out your window, that sound you hear is the echo of the > US conquering Europe. Enjoy the EU. (another LOL thrown in here...) > > > I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the > > greatest country in the world... > > > > Sjoerd > > > > > > > >

Damn sign her up for F1 NOW!! Yeeeee Haaaaaaa <g> "Someotherdude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a | BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street | while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking | as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into | a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never | even knew about her error.

The reason is probably, That we just don't give a damn about F1. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]... > In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once > that oversight > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of the > world will do when they have to drive with one > hand like most Americans do these days? > dave henrie > >

Now listen up Dave!! I gave you the post of the week and I am also giving you the post of the month on the 'cell phone'. If they don't get the humour it's their loss! Keep up the great work Dave!! My Hero Dave Henrie.... Yeaaaahhhh And no bird flipping comes from these fingers!! <VBG> Cheers Thom_j. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fqto6.505621$[email hidden]... | NO Don , I'm not a S.P. hiding behind my computer. And I truly am an | American.(and said as much a couple of times in the original post.) | Traveled throughout the West, Lived in two States. With the exception ofa | few days in Canada, I have never left the country. | I am, and have said so here MANY times, a ridiculously BAD sim racer. | But I enjoy it and I find humour(or at least I thought I did) in mineand

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| other's | lack of speed. | Bird flip accepted, I should have put a smiley in there somewhere. | Have fun | dave henrie | "Don Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:Enso6.11159$[email hidden]... | > Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your | ass | > where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over | the | > place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick

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| > behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in | the | > world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American | shut | > it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day | and | > race... | > | > | |

Shhhhhhhh RB we're still trying to keep it a secret!! We're getting too many imigrants in here again.. hahahaha Yes I'm only joking about the "too many imigrants in here"...ok? Thom_j. "Razorback" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... <snipped>

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| Response to #4... yes it is. | | I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have | traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries | and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. | | However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country | on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. | | RB

>Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane >asylum. So insane we gave you the language you use now and your ancestors :-)) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Thank You! LOLOLOL ;) -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GMzo6.69645$[email hidden]... > The reason is probably, That we just don't give a damn about F1. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]... > > In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > > behind the > > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > > countries...and so far no sim has > > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. > Once > > that oversight > > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest of > the > > world will do when they have to drive with one > > hand like most Americans do these days? > > dave henrie > > > > > >

That's funny. Most Brits insist that the language used in the US is debased at best, unintelligible at worst. I've learned to take that with a grain of salt as it is coming from a group that would gladly mug each other while professing a love for a 'football club'. Particularly when sport in question is soccer.... Graeme Nash wrote:

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> >Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane > >asylum. > > So insane we gave you the language you use now and your ancestors :-)) > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

"Thom j." <!! <VBG> Cheers Thom_j. > Those that can, race VROC. Those that can't yuk it up... I'm pretty sure I fall into the latter category. dave henrie Team Slo Moving Objects

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:58:46 GMT, "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote wonderful things about sparkplugs: $The reason is probably, That we just don't give a damn about F1. No no, Americans care about cars that are "wrecked" when they lose paint...

Someotherdude <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.Once

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> >that oversight > >is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > > > Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a > BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street > while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking > as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into > a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never > even knew about her error.

In Australia there is a $120 fine and a loss of points from your licence if caught using a cell-phone while driving - Then again, we've had compulsory seat belts since 1976 and we still don't see anyone in American movies/TV wearing them. Now all we need is the same (cell-phone) rule for people smoking while driving Cheers.. Phillip.. > >

On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:55:39 +0100, "Sjoerd de Roest" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the >greatest country in the world... > >Sjoerd Hey Sjeorrd, I'll give you an American dollar if you put on you wooden shoes and stand over by that flower patch so I can take your picture. Ooh! Here comes a big, bad German! You better go hide under the table until I can save your ass again! Captain America

I doubt your the latter Dave.. Remember I have been in races you have raced <G> but we'll just let others think this.. Shhhhhhh ...lol Cheers Thom_j. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KpBo6.507501$[email hidden]...

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| | "Thom j." <!! <VBG> Cheers Thom_j. | > | Those that can, race VROC. Those that can't yuk it up... | I'm pretty sure I fall into the latter category. | dave henrie | Team Slo Moving Objects | |

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>Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep your ass >where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all over the >place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prick hiding >behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county in the >world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing American shut >it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all day and >race... >

What the hell are you talking about? The original post was a joke... You know, funny - ha ha...? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Once >>that oversight >>is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > > >Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a stupid woman in a >BMW driving down the wrong way of a one way street >while talking on the cell phone. She continue talking >as she luckily reached the intersection and turned into >a two way street. I wouldn't be surprised if she never >even knew about her error. >

Sad - and probably all too common... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hehehe.. that's what Icelandic people say too. :) Once you spend a week in Iceland you go "Wow! This place freaking rocks!!!! Why isn't everyone here?" And the Icelander's will say "We like it quiet.. so let's keep it that way." :) RB On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:19:48 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Shhhhhhhh RB we're still trying to keep it a secret!! We're getting too >many imigrants in here again.. hahahaha Yes I'm only joking about the >"too many imigrants in here"...ok? Thom_j. > >"Razorback" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... ><snipped> >| Response to #4... yes it is. >| >| I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have >| traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries >| and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. >| >| However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country >| on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. >| >| RB >

On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:43:05 +0000, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane >>asylum. > >So insane we gave you the language you use now and your ancestors :-)) American is only similar to English. :) RB

Ahhh.. the soccer/football argument. :) Well... soccer is clearly "football" in any language. American football should change its name to "TackleBall" or "American Rugby" or even "WarBall" but not Football! A player in American Football touches the ball with his foot maybe 5% of the entire game.. MAYBE! "Soccer" doesn't represent the game at all. I guess that's the great Americanism.. call two sports the completely wrong name while taking the true name from one and giving it to the other. Almost like calling racing "walking" and then calling walking "Buddledeedoo." RB On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:09:33 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>That's funny. Most Brits insist that the language used in the US is debased at >best, unintelligible at worst. I've learned to take that with a grain of salt as it >is coming from a group that would gladly mug each other while professing a love for >a 'football club'. Particularly when sport in question is soccer.... > > > >Graeme Nash wrote: > >> >Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane >> >asylum. >> >> So insane we gave you the language you use now and your ancestors :-)) >> >> -- >> Cheers! >> Graeme Nash

Razorback wrote: > > Especially since more non-American's use cell phones than Americans. Finland, for instance, where I swear they must be in-utero implants... BB

Sjoerd de Roest wrote: > > I still have to laugh everytime I hear someone say that bit about the > greatest country in the world... You wouldn't laugh if you lived here...

Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > > Conquer Europe? What the hell for? Then we'd have to try and rule that insane > asylum. AND deal with their hoof-and-mouth disease, mad cow syndrome, and the French! Brrrrr!

Graeme Nash wrote: > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. What is, then?

Razorback wrote: > >Once you spend a week in Iceland you go "Wow! This place freakingrocks!!!! Why isn't > everyone here?" I thought it was "this place is nothing but freaking rocks!!!!"

>"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > Graeme Nash wrote: > > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > > What is, then? It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody would call a geo-political land "better" then another. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. Hmmm, I think there is something like that in Carmageddon 2 ;) Anyway, funny post. I think this same thread happened about 2 years ago here. Had the same "mine is better. No it's mine! NO it's not! Yes it is! No. Yes. No. Yes. nooooo. Yes. Ni!" effect on the newsgroup. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in ... > The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makes you4 > times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device did > NOT reduce that number.<snip> That's right. The time when you are most distracted is when you want to end the call (too busy thinking about how much it's costing you) and you can't end a call with the handsfree. -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +9.99 (Also a cellphone designer)

"Razorback" <[email hidden]> ... > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:45:42 +0000, Graeme Nash > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >>Here's another american flipping you the bird, and by the way keep yourass > >>where ever you are from, cause you know you would get it kicked all overthe > >>place talking shit like that. I think you are a little scared prickhiding > >>behind a computer. So what happened, you visited the greatest county inthe > >>world, and opened your smartass mouth and a more than willing Americanshut > >>it up for you? No we have jobs in America, we can't sit at home all dayand

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> >>race... > > > >1) The original post was *by* an American. It's called a joke. > >2) *You're* the one hiding behind a computer screen making threats. > >3) Country has an "r" in it. > >4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > >5) *Plonk* > > Response to #4... yes it is. > > I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have > traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries > and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. > > However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country > on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. > > RB

You only have to look at the reply to the OP to see why it isn't... :-P -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +9.99 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

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>I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have >traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries >and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. > >However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country >on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. >

been there seen it lived it done it too, don't agree. doesn't the USA still have capital punishment? and the normal people still carry guns. plenty of other countries on earth have 'evolved' past this already. hmmmm try england sometime, cops don't even carry guns. Andy

Point, Set & Match ymenard!! Good one!! <g> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XPHo6.14658$[email hidden]...

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| >"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote | > Graeme Nash wrote: | > > | > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. | > | > What is, then? | | | It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody | would call a geo-political land "better" then another. | | | | -- | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> | -- May the Downforce be with you... | -- http://www.ymenard.com/ | -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how | hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. | | |

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:04:06 -0800, Captain America <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey Sjeorrd, I'll give you an American dollar if you put on you wooden >shoes and stand over by that flower patch so I can take your picture. >Ooh! Here comes a big, bad German! You better go hide under the table >until I can save your ass again! > >Captain America I hate the single LOL replies, but this one really deserves it.. LOL!!! Andre

Andy wrote: > > doesn't the USA still have capital punishment? and the normal people > still carry guns. plenty of other countries on earth have 'evolved' > past this already. hmmmm Not only that, but they've executed, on numerous occasions, mentally retarded people. Only lesson they're teaching the populace is to hate the government. You can also strangle shoplifters to death, & somehow it's OK. "It wouldn't have happened if they didn't shoplift" is the usual type quote for the room temperature IQ'd among us. Geez.... don't get me going. LOL -- Fester

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> > >"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Graeme Nash wrote: > > > > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > > > > What is, then? > > It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody > would call a geo-political land "better" then another.

Amen. Now here's somebody who gets it. These countries are nothing more than political boundaries. Political institutions do nothing more than divide & conquer the population at large so as to retain power with a minimum of trouble. There is one race, the Human Race. And one country, Planet Earth. -- Fester

rik anthrax wrote: > > Then you are either ignorant, or a fool! > LOL! Stick your head out your window, that sound you hear is the echo of the > US conquering Europe. Enjoy the EU. (another LOL thrown in here...) Yes I realize you're joking. But it's a typical ignorant American way of thinking. Not a personal slam on you, you're just joking. ;-) -- Fester

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>>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote >> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. > >Hmmm, I think there is something like that in Carmageddon 2 ;) > > >Anyway, funny post. I think this same thread happened about 2 years ago >here. Had the same "mine is better. No it's mine! NO it's not! Yes it is! >No. Yes. No. Yes. nooooo. Yes. Ni!" effect on the newsgroup. >

That's not a argument - it's simply contradiction...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <97uu56$lff$[email hidden]>, "Phillip Archer" <[email hidden]> writes: >In Australia there is a $120 fine and a loss of points from your licence if >caught using a cell-phone while driving - Then again, we've had compulsory >seat belts since 1976 and we still don't see anyone in American movies/TV >wearing them. >Now all we need is the same (cell-phone) rule for people smoking while >driving I'd vote for it. We have seat belt laws, too - nevermind what the movies/TV show. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Let's hear another Amen for Uncle Fester.. "Amen!" <g> All this country verses country crap is just that **crap!** We all live on the same sphere & all have the same daily deeds, needs and desires! No More.. No Less.. Cheers To All Kindly Humans.. Thom_j. <VBG> "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| Amen. Now here's somebody who gets it. These countries are nothing | more than political boundaries. Political institutions do nothing more | than divide & conquer the population at large so as to retain power with | a minimum of trouble. | There is one race, the Human Race. And one country, Planet Earth. | -- | Fester

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> In article <vSHo6.14659$[email hidden]>, "ymenard" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving. > > > >Hmmm, I think there is something like that in Carmageddon 2 ;) > > > > > >Anyway, funny post. I think this same thread happened about 2 years ago > >here. Had the same "mine is better. No it's mine! NO it's not! Yes it

is! > >No. Yes. No. Yes. nooooo. Yes. Ni!" effect on the newsgroup. > > > > That's not a argument - it's simply contradiction...<g>No it isn't. <gg>

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> Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.That's the giveaway - a closet Monty Python fan...

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>"rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makes you 4 >>times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device did >>NOT reduce that number. > > >I think it's the act of talking to someone that's not in the same car, it >just takes you away. I remember the first time I used a cell phone while >driving, it was a short call but afterward, I didn't recall at all what >happened >in the 5 blocks I was driving while on the phone. No recollection of the >street >lights or other cars and pedestrians, I never made another call while driving >again, it's just too dangerous.

Whoa...I guess that experience *would* scare me. But when I drove a company vehicle with a hands-free system, it didn't bother me. It was sort of like I was talking to someone in the car with me. It wasn't a distraction at all. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> >Thank You! LOLOLOL ;) > >-- >Scott B. Husted >PA-Scott >ICQ# 4395450 > > >"Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:GMzo6.69645$[email hidden]... >> The reason is probably, That we just don't give a damn about F1.

Well, *this* American likes F1... <g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

We won't hold it against you... too much ;) Hell, look at how many people watch the Thanksgiving day and Christmas PARADES. Same thing, just more high tech and expensive. =P -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "Scott B. Husted" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Thank You! LOLOLOL ;) > > > >-- > >Scott B. Husted > >PA-Scott > >ICQ# 4395450 > > > > > >"Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:GMzo6.69645$[email hidden]... > >> The reason is probably, That we just don't give a damn about F1. > > Well, *this* American likes F1... <g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I think the people that crash while using a cell phone just have an inability to do more than one thing at a time. People have been talking for decades while driving. Truck drivers most of all using CB radios. I don't know what the statistics are of accidents for commercial drivers, but I know in the 7 years I spent doing it I drove more miles that I would have in almost 40 years of normal driving and never once had an accident. EldredP wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >In article <[email hidden]>, >Someotherdude<[email hidden]> writes: > >>"rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makesyou 4

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>>>times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device did >>>NOT reduce that number. >> >> >>I think it's the act of talking to someone that's not in the same car, it >>just takes you away. I remember the first time I used a cell phone while >>driving, it was a short call but afterward, I didn't recall at all what >>happened >>in the 5 blocks I was driving while on the phone. No recollection of the >>street >>lights or other cars and pedestrians, I never made another call while

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>was talking to someone in the car with me. It wasn't a distraction at all. > >Eldred >-- >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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Hmmm.. uhh.. ok... RB

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>>"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Graeme Nash wrote: >> > >> > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. >> >> What is, then? > > >It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody >would call a geo-political land "better" then another.

because it is... rb

> > That's not a argument - it's simply contradiction...<g> > No it isn't. <gg>Yes it issssss...

In article <YBWo6.511959$[email hidden]>, "Eric Franzen" <[email hidden]> writes: >I think the people that crash while using a cell phone just have an >inability to do more than one thing at a time. People have been talking for >decades while driving. Truck drivers most of all using CB radios. I don't >know what the statistics are of accidents for commercial drivers, but I know >in the 7 years I spent doing it I drove more miles that I would have in >almost 40 years of normal driving and never once had an accident. It's funny - I was driving home from work yesterday in a sudden snowstorm. A customer/friend of mine called my cell phone, and I answered it. I was talking to him while watching the results of multiple idiots spun off on the side of the road. I even watched the 18-wheeler in front of me start to slide(he stopped in time), but *I* wasn't worried. I had already left enough rome to safely stop. I think people tailgating on icy roads is pretty damn stupid. THAT"S what causes problems - tailgating in general. People drive like they're going into turn 1 on VROC, and not leaving enough room... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> writes: >We won't hold it against you... too much ;) Hell, look at how many >people watch the Thanksgiving day and Christmas PARADES. Same thing, just >more high tech and expensive. =P > Nah, the holiday parades are MUCH too slow. Let them run over 150mph, than I'll watch...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** I did a complete trip from Norfolk to DC like that once. No Cell phone either. 180 miles and 3 hours went by. When I pulled up to the house, I realized that I didn't remember the trip. I think Truckers have a name for this deal... White Line Fever or something like that. -Larry "Someotherdude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makesyou 4

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> >times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device did > >NOT reduce that number. > > > I think it's the act of talking to someone that's not in the same car, it > just takes you away. I remember the first time I used a cell phone while > driving, it was a short call but afterward, I didn't recall at all what

happened > in the 5 blocks I was driving while on the phone. No recollection of thestreet > lights or other cars and pedestrians, I never made another call whiledriving > again, it's just too dangerous. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** What we need are Cell Phones that are engineered with some sort of respect to a Human Interface incorporated. Anyone here use a Nextel 1000+ ? SHEESH! This is the most ergonomically challanged piece of electronics I have EVER seen. They could not possible have made it any harder to perform even the simplest functions. This is the most bass-ackwards piece of electronics JUNK I have ever seen. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mbjo6.502050$[email hidden]...

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> In GPLrank and the Ranking system for F1cs2k, the Americans lag far far > behind the > rest of the world. Why? I believe, after moments of shallow thought, I > have discovered the reason. Americans drive differently than many other > countries...and so far no sim has > model the style that will allow we Yanks to excell. What is missing? > No sim, to date, has included a cell phone to be used while driving.

Once > that oversight > is corrected, you'll see Americans literally jump through the rankings. > After all, how can you expect us to do well when we don't have our heads > crimped over to hold the phone up and how well do you think the rest ofthe > world will do when they have to drive with one > hand like most Americans do these days? > dave henrie > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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> > On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:08:23 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >>"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> Graeme Nash wrote: > >> > > >> > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > >> > >> What is, then? > > > > > >It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody > >would call a geo-political land "better" then another. > > because it is...

Nonsense, or do you really believe there are NO negative sides to the US, politically, socially or ethically? I lived in the States for 3 years, and I experienced them. OTOH, I know ALL the negative sides of my home country, too. Everytime I hear someone say: My country is the BEST, I just take it as "wishful thinking"...and definitly not a knowledge based on facts and own experience. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

but i bet you didnt hold the cb up to your ear to use it! <g> Eric Franzen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YBWo6.511959$[email hidden]... > I think the people that crash while using a cell phone just have an > inability to do more than one thing at a time. People have been talkingfor > decades while driving. Truck drivers most of all using CB radios. Idon't > know what the statistics are of accidents for commercial drivers, but Iknow

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> in the 7 years I spent doing it I drove more miles that I would have in > almost 40 years of normal driving and never once had an accident. > > EldredP wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >In article <[email hidden]>, > >Someotherdude<[email hidden]> writes: > > > >>"rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >>>The same study that showed the use of a cell phone while driving makes > you 4 > >>>times more likely to crash also claims that using a hands free device

did > >>>NOT reduce that number. > >> > >> > >>I think it's the act of talking to someone that's not in the same car,it > >>just takes you away. I remember the first time I used a cell phonewhile > >>driving, it was a short call but afterward, I didn't recall at all what > >>happened > >>in the 5 blocks I was driving while on the phone. No recollection ofthe

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> >>street > >>lights or other cars and pedestrians, I never made another call while > driving > >>again, it's just too dangerous. > > > >Whoa...I guess that experience *would* scare me. But when I drove a > company > >vehicle with a hands-free system, it didn't bother me. It was sort of

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> > > >Eldred > >-- > >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > >GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > >with experience... > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

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>Razorback wrote: >> >> On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:08:23 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >>"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote >> >> Graeme Nash wrote: >> >> > >> >> > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. >> >> >> >> What is, then? >> > >> > >> >It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody >> >would call a geo-political land "better" then another. >> >> because it is... > >Nonsense, or do you really believe there are NO negative sides to >the US, politically, socially or ethically? I lived in the States >for 3 years, and I experienced them. OTOH, I know ALL the negative >sides of my home country, too. > >Everytime I hear someone say: My country is the BEST, I just take >it as "wishful thinking"...and definitly not a knowledge based on >facts and own experience.

Not nonsense.. it's true.. the US of A is the greatest country on the planet. No one said "a country without faults" or "a country without more faults than some others." It is THE GREATEST. Simple. Let's move on. :) RB

>It is THE GREATEST. Simple. Let's move on. :) No it isn't. Simple. This could go on :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Euro-court outlaws criticism of EU By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels THE European Court of Justice ruled yesterday that the European Union can lawfully suppress political criticism of its institutions and of leading figures, sweeping aside English Common Law and 50 years of European precedents on civil liberties. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=004500667862225&rtmo=VkkxFu1x&atmo=rrrrrrrq &pg=/et/01/3/7/weuc07.html Sounds like a wonderful place to not be.

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>Euro-court outlaws criticism of EU >By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels >THE European Court of Justice ruled yesterday that the European Union >can lawfully suppress political criticism of its institutions and of >leading figures, sweeping aside English Common Law and 50 years of >European precedents on civil liberties. >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=004500667862225&rtmo=VkkxFu1x&atmo=rrrrr >rrq &pg=/et/01/3/7/weuc07.html > >Sounds like a wonderful place to not be.

If you mean reading the Telegraph on issues involving the EU (and expecting truth/coherent reporting), then yes, you are indeed correct. Z. -- Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

"O" Graeme your sooo silly... hahahaha.. Watch out guyz this is my GPL mentor & even tho' I don't agree with the "American thang," he's usually a "level-headed" bloak{sp?} <G> Cheers Thom_j. "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| | >It is THE GREATEST. Simple. Let's move on. :) | | No it isn't. Simple. This could go on :-) | | -- | Cheers! | Graeme Nash

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> [various screaming, yelling, WWF trash-talking, and general rampant > stupidity snipped] > > I suppose none of you chest-thumpers noticed that the original post said > "we Americans," was written by Dave Henrie -- a gent who's as American > as Apple Pie and full automatic weapons, and was thoroughly > tongue-in-cheek? Watta buncha goons!

What's wrong with you? Don't you read the news? We shoot our own children here. The reason there seem to be so many under-par american drivers is simple. There are so many americans, and every one is too stupid to keep the bad news about their IQ's to themselves. Unlike the chinks, ewes, and ozzies, who seem to have too much self respect to appraise themselves publicly. Mike.

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:13:48 +0000, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>It is THE GREATEST. Simple. Let's move on. :) > >No it isn't. Simple. This could go on :-) No.. its simple. RB

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> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:13:48 +0000, Graeme Nash > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >>It is THE GREATEST. Simple. Let's move on. :) > > > >No it isn't. Simple. This could go on :-) > > No.. its simple. > > RB

No.. it's simple :-)

"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Razorback wrote: > > > >Once you spend a week in Iceland you go "Wow! This place freaking > rocks!!!! Why isn't > > everyone here?" > > > I thought it was "this place is nothing but freaking rocks!!!!"

But at least the rocks blow up once in a while to keep things interesting. Especially for the sheep standing on them at the time. KFG

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> > >I am not an American but I do live in the New York City area. I have > >traveled all over the world, speak 3 languages, lived in 4 countries > >and even gone through my "Americans are morons" faze. > > > >However, the Unites States of America really is the greatest country > >on Earth. You have to live here to understand why. > > > been there seen it lived it done it too, don't agree. > > doesn't the USA still have capital punishment? and the normal people > still carry guns. plenty of other countries on earth have 'evolved' > past this already. hmmmm > > try england sometime, cops don't even carry guns. > > Andy >

On the other hand England no longer has lions and 1000 lb. carnivorous bears roaming around peoples back yards. There are huge areas of the US that still actually do, in esentially urban settings. Believe it or not. KFG KFG

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> >"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Graeme Nash wrote: > > > > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > > > > What is, then? > > > It's qualitative and relative. I have yet to see a reason why somebody > would call a geo-political land "better" then another. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

I have always stated the the term " freedom" is entirely relative to just what it is you wish to be free to do. If you wish to smoke a joint with a hooker, male or female, Holland is certainly a freer and better place than the US. KFG

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> > I have always stated the the term " freedom" is entirely relative to just > what it is you wish to be free to do. > > If you wish to smoke a joint with a hooker, male or female, Holland is > certainly a freer and better place than the US. > > KFG >

I think the fact that our freedoms are a basic foundation of our constitution, guaranteed by the bill of rights, and embedded in all law is just a little more important than "smoking joints with hookers".

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XPHo6.14658$[email hidden]... > >"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Graeme Nash wrote: > > > > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > > > > What is, then? Easy. Canada. -Phasor

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> > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. > > > > > > What is, then? > > Easy. Canada. > > -Phasor

No way dude, not since we stole the NHL!

On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:16:16 GMT, "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >> > > > 4) America is not the greatest country on Earth. >> > > >> > > What is, then? >> >> Easy. Canada. >> >> -Phasor > >No way dude, not since we stole the NHL! > > >

Canada a country? Uhhh.. I believe it's the 51st state. :) RB