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NASCAR 4: Another Damn Rookie!!!!!

4 posts by 4 people · 04 Mar 2001 22:37 UTC - 05 Mar 2001 00:27 UTC

Joe L. 04 Mar 2001 22:37 UTC#198258
Me, I'm the rookie. Prompted by my NASCAR fanatic son who said he wanted to kick my butt online (He's 35 and lives 8 miles away) I picked up Sierra's NASCAR 4. While I am a big PC Game fan I have been playing military simulations almost totally. For the first time in years I find myself competing against folks that I cannot blow up or shoot down. I am having a blast but, needless to say, I have a ways to go before I am competitive. "Winning", however, is not my concern for the moment. I am confident that, with practice, I will be able to make a respectable showing in any crowd but in the mean time I need a place to go online where I can get some practice against other humans without creating a hazard for the "Big Boys" and spoiling any "serious" racing they are doing by accidentally taking one or two of them out of the race by my "rookie mistakes". Wiping out every competetor in the room will earn you a lot of respect in the flight sims but I imagine the racing community frowns on such events. When I went online the other day I had hoped to find races labeled "For Newbies" or "Rookies" or other such but none of the races I saw had any such designation. I went into a few of them with the intention of asking the host: "Hi, I'm new at this, mind if I play?" but there was no "chat room" as is usually found with most flight sims. Everyone was out on the track and it is difficult to chat at 180mph even in a practice run. This left me the choice of either blindly jumping into the game and taking the chance of intruding my rookie ass in on a "serious" race and spoiling it for the Vets or backing out and going home. This situation may not bother a guy who doesn't care if he get in the way but it does bother me. I fully intend to play with the "Big Boys" as soon as I can do so without getting in the way but in the mean time I need to know where the rookies hang out. So where do you guys hang the fresh meat?
Thom j. 04 Mar 2001 23:42 UTC↳ reply to Joe L.#198283
Joe, I was on yesterday & last night for about 5hrs... yea 5hrs and I saw a server with "For Newbies & Rookies Only Please.".. So I believe they do have them... Also try to find a group of newer N4 drivers {and there are many} that are willing to help you in the smaller races. 'i.e. 3-5-9. If they get too *huffy* with you just leave and try another... We all had to start online one time or another so enjoy!! Cheers Thom_j. "Joe L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5tzo6.14552$%[email hidden]... | When I went online the other day I had hoped to find races labeled"For | Newbies" or "Rookies" or other such but none of the races I saw had anysuch | designation.
Tim 05 Mar 2001 00:02 UTC↳ reply to Joe L.#198204
Serious races are PW'd Online is nothing like it was, and it wasnt that great then Join as many races as you can and just try to stay 'above' the petty crap A few thoughts for you to ponder... I have 7 years online racing behind me so trust me, Ive learned the hardway I dont chat AT ALL while racing If it dont fit in an autochat msg Im not typing it After the race, if its important enough, I will make a fair attempt to find the person in question and either apologize, or, if its someone Ive learned has infulence, or a LOT of experience, I will try to engage them in conversation But Im not there to chat idley (sp), Im there to race If your going to join pickup races sooner or later your going to tic someone off Usually, its some foul-mouth kid, or some arrogant prick you wouldnt think to invite to your house, so its best to just acquire some thick skin and move on The veterans can tell the difference between an honest mistake and an asshole so dont let it bother you One thing to keep in mind, and this is harder than most people think, but your racing against 1000s of strangers, unlike any real life racing WC deals with the same 40+ guys week in and week out, and even then, they run in packs Dale Jarret is a great guy and Im a big fan of his clean driving, but watch a race where he gets caught up running with the back markers and damn if you wont see tire marks all over his car :) Racing online is more akin to walking into a 20,000 sqft Gilleys online a dry Sat nite in Texas wearing a suit n tie...Or worse asking the bartender for a glass of milk :) Keep at it, there is no other thrill in sims like racing real life drivers Joe L. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5tzo6.14552$%[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> Me, I'm the rookie. Prompted by my NASCAR fanatic son who said he > wanted to kick my butt online (He's 35 and lives 8 miles away) I picked up > Sierra's NASCAR 4. While I am a big PC Game fan I have been playing > military simulations almost totally. For the first time in years I find > myself competing against folks that I cannot blow up or shoot down. I am > having a blast but, needless to say, I have a ways to go before I am > competitive. "Winning", however, is not my concern for the moment. > I am confident that, with practice, I will be able to make a > respectable showing in any crowd but in the mean time I need a place to
go > online where I can get some practice against other humans without creatinga > hazard for the "Big Boys" and spoiling any "serious" racing they are doing > by accidentally taking one or two of them out of the race by my "rookie > mistakes". Wiping out every competetor in the room will earn you a lot of > respect in the flight sims but I imagine the racing community frowns onsuch > events. > > When I went online the other day I had hoped to find races labeled"For > Newbies" or "Rookies" or other such but none of the races I saw had anysuch > designation. I went into a few of them with the intention of asking the > host: "Hi, I'm new at this, mind if I play?" but there was no "chat room" > as is usually found with most flight sims. Everyone was out on the trackand > it is difficult to chat at 180mph even in a practice run. This left methe > choice of either blindly jumping into the game and taking the chance of > intruding my rookie ass in on a "serious" race and spoiling it for theVets
Quoted text (7 lines)> or backing out and going home. This situation may not bother a guy who > doesn't care if he get in the way but it does bother me. I fully intend to > play with the "Big Boys" as soon as I can do so without getting in the way > but in the mean time I need to know where the rookies hang out. > So where do you guys hang the fresh meat? > >
Rick E. 05 Mar 2001 00:27 UTC↳ reply to Joe L.#198203
"Joe L." <[email hidden]> wrote: > So where do you guys hang the fresh meat? Cool post. If everyone thought the way you did, there wouldn't be such a big problem. lol The answer to your question is that there is no organized way of finding newbie servers. I do a lot of flight simming, too, and it's basically the same (unless you join a squadron, etc., which isn't my thing). Sometimes you get lucky and find such a server (although experienced guys join anyway for the easy pickings), other times you just have to take the heat and jump in whereever you can. Pardon a few exceptions, it has been my experience that newbies aren't given a hard time for not knowing how to play any given game, but rather just for lacking all common sense regarding online play in general. You basically know how it all works etiquette-wise based on your online flight simming and like I said, the fact that you asked is part of the solution in itself. It's fine if you can't drive very well. It's not fine if you try to race the guys who can into the first turn of the race, or at any time when they're lapping you. Let them go, you'll be able to find the other newbies soon enough as they make their way back onto the track -- hehe. Pair up and race with the guys who drive like you, staying ever alert for that "race leader is coming up behind you" warning, then do nothing else but get the heck out of the way. Maintain situation awareness (flight sim term -- hehe) with regard to the race leaders using F2 and <space>. If you don't ruin their race, they won't care if you suck. In fact, they'll go nuts for you if they see you making a bonafide effort to just stay out of their way. That's really all most people ask. It's not being terrible that annoys good drivers, it's not doing anything about the fact that you're terrible and trying to drive like you aren't. :) Good luck, Rick

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