F1RC - Worth a look!

I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing (or whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this straight, it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straight at Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep through the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics can be a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own ways, and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up for it by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if any, racing sims. So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you going for a while. James PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this? I have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before.

James, Typically, for UbiSoft, I couldn't get any of my controllers to work, at least, not in the demo. Not my ECCI, not my LWFF, not a TM Ferrari FF nor a TM NASCAR Digital Pro 2 I had under test for a Car & Driver article, not even a box-stock CH FlightStick (all of which work with most other autoracing sims). Ubi's had this problem with every sim since F1RS. --Steve Smith James Pickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TUNo6.64451$[email hidden]... > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing(or > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get thisstraight, > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straightat > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweepthrough > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics canbe > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their ownways, > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up forit

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> by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > any, racing sims. > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you > going for a while. > > > > James > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this?

I > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > >

F1RC released now?

> F1RC released now? Nopes, still planned for March 15th. -- Kenneth Verburg Editor-in-chief High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com

What kind of system are you running it on? I tried the demo on my Voodoo2 SLI system, and it kicks me back to the desktop when I try to start a race. I'm wondering if this has been fixed in the final release (ir whether there's a workaround for the demo)? James Pickard wrote:

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> I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing (or > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this straight, > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straight at > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep through > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics can be > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own ways, > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up for it > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > any, racing sims. > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you > going for a while. > > James > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this? I > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before.

-- Bert

Setting up the controller is not intuitive, shame on Ubi :-(. I had trouble setting up my LWFF until I figured it out. You must turn the wheel, or hold down the button/pedal and then hit enter to "lock in" your selection. It does work but it's not obvious. -- Joe Marques "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:63Oo6.218270$[email hidden]... > James, > > Typically, for UbiSoft, I couldn't get any of my controllers to work, at > least, not in the demo. Not my ECCI, not my LWFF, not a TM Ferrari FF nor a > TM NASCAR Digital Pro 2 I had under test for a Car & Driver article, not > even a box-stock CH FlightStick (all of which work with most other > autoracing sims). Ubi's had this problem with every sim since F1RS. > > --Steve Smith > > James Pickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TUNo6.64451$[email hidden]... > > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing > (or > > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this > straight, > > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straight > at > > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep > through > > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics can > be > > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own > ways, > > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up for > it > > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > > any, racing sims. > > > > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you > > going for a while. > > > > > > > > James > > > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this? > I > > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > > > > > >

How much did UbiSoft pay you to write this? Nick James Pickard wrote:

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> I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing (or > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this straight, > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straight at > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep through > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics can be > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own ways, > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up for it > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > any, racing sims. > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you > going for a while. > > James > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this? I > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before.

"James Pickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TUNo6.64451$[email hidden]... > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get thisstraight, > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. Uggh. You lost me with the last two lines. :-P > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics canbe > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their ownways, > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up forit > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > any, racing sims. Just so people know, no one has yet seen the gold version of this sim. Those are on their way to reviewers like Kenneth at High Gear right now. The versions floating around now are beta copies with unfinished AI, etc.

Why is it that if someone writes something positive about an upcoming sim, they are always accused of being paid by the developer? David G Fisher "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> How much did UbiSoft pay you to write this? > > Nick > > James Pickard wrote: > > > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing

(or > > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable,and > > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get thisstraight, > > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down thestraight at > > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweepthrough > > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics canbe > > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their ownways, > > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up forit > > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > > any, racing sims. > > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keepyou > > going for a while. > > > > James > > > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this?I > > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. >

I never harass the people who complain about sims, so to balance the act... Nick David G Fisher wrote:

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> Why is it that if someone writes something positive about an upcoming sim, > they are always accused of being paid by the developer? > > David G Fisher > > "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > How much did UbiSoft pay you to write this? > > > > Nick > > > > James Pickard wrote: > > > > > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > > > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > > > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing > (or > > > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > > > > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > > > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, > and > > > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this > straight, > > > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > > > > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > > > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the > straight at > > > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep > through > > > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > > > > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics can > be > > > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > > > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own > ways, > > > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up for > it > > > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > > > any, racing sims. > > > > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > > > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > > > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep > you > > > going for a while. > > > > > > James > > > > > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this? > I > > > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > >

Got it. :-) David G Fisher "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I never harass the people who complain about sims, so to balance theact... > > Nick > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > Why is it that if someone writes something positive about an upcomingsim,

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> > they are always accused of being paid by the developer? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > How much did UbiSoft pay you to write this? > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > James Pickard wrote: > > > > > > > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula

1 > > > > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1Racing > > > > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1Racing > > (or > > > > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > > > > > > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth alook. > > > > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, butacceptable, > > and > > > > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this > > straight, > > > > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > > > > > > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the'immersion

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> > > > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the > > straight at > > > > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep > > through > > > > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > > > > > > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics

can > > be > > > > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not faroff, > > > > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in theirown > > ways, > > > > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes upfor > > it > > > > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say aboutmany, if > > > > any, racing sims. > > > > > > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > > > > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), thenF1RC is > > > > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it willkeep > > you > > > > going for a while. > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experiencedthis? > > I > > > > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > > > >

Done the time, got the tatoo. Joe Marques <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in message news:5QOo6.343447$[email hidden]... > Setting up the controller is not intuitive, shame on Ubi :-(. I hadtrouble > setting up my LWFF until I figured it out. You must turn the wheel, orhold

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> down the button/pedal and then hit enter to "lock in" your selection. It > does work but it's not obvious. > > -- > Joe Marques > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:63Oo6.218270$[email hidden]... > > James, > > > > Typically, for UbiSoft, I couldn't get any of my controllers to work, at > > least, not in the demo. Not my ECCI, not my LWFF, not a TM Ferrari FF

nor

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> a > > TM NASCAR Digital Pro 2 I had under test for a Car & Driver article, not > > even a box-stock CH FlightStick (all of which work with most other > > autoracing sims). Ubi's had this problem with every sim since F1RS. > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > James Pickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:TUNo6.64451$[email hidden]... > > > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > > > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1

Racing > > > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1Racing > > (or > > > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > > > > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth alook.

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> > > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, > and > > > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get this > > straight, > > > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > > > > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > > > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the > straight > > at > > > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweep > > through > > > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > > > > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics

can > > be > > > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not faroff, > > > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their own > > ways, > > > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes upfor > > it > > > by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many,if > > > any, racing sims. > > > > > > > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > > > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RCis

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> > > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep > you > > > going for a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced

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> > I > > > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:05:21 GMT, "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote: >How much did UbiSoft pay you to write this? Looking for a change? Not satisfied with MPS'/Hasbro's salary anymore? ;-) Jan

> Just so people know, no one has yet seen the gold version of this sim.Those > are on their way to reviewers like Kenneth at High Gear right now. The > versions floating around now are beta copies with unfinished AI, etc. Week and a half ago received review version. A serial produced CD of the final code. Ubisoft was clear this was such. AI still leaves lot to hope for. Not so terrible as in preview / demo code though. Joona

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** I'd like to try it, but I've yet to get it to work with my MSFFW/USB. It won't recognize the steering, pedals or anything. Ditto for Insane (which I'd REALLY like to try). Have game developers forgotten the decades-old skill of writing Controller routines? -Larry "James Pickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TUNo6.64451$[email hidden]... > I have just just tried this new F1 sim called, funny enough, Formula 1 > Racing Championship. It is by the same people who brought us F1 Racing > Simulation (F1RS) back in about '97 and eventually the Monaco F1 Racing(or > whatever it was called). Either way, they both were pretty poor. > > But their latest release, while not being perfect, is well worth a look. > The graphics are very good, sounds are a little basic, but acceptable, and > the physics are basic in nature, but acceptable. Let me get thisstraight, > it's no Grand Prix Legends. But for what it is, it does the job ok. > > The biggest thing this simulation has giong for it, is the 'immersion > level', somthing most sims seem to lack. As you travel down the straightat > Albert Park, it truly feels like you are doing 300kph. As you sweepthrough > the corners, it just looks right and feels really good. > > Admittedly, it has it's flaws. AI is basic, but ok, and the physics canbe > a little 'funny' at times. Compared to F1CS and GP3, it's not far off, > maybe on par. Personally I feel both these sims are good in their ownways, > and while F1RC isn't quite as sophisticated in someways, it makes up forit

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> by the sheer 'exhileration factor'. Somthing I can't say about many, if > any, racing sims. > > > So if your bored with racing sims we have at the moment, looking for > somthing new (and who wouldn't be? It's been a while :), then F1RC is > well worth a look. It isn't the next GPL (WSC is), but it will keep you > going for a while. > > > > James > > PS. My sound is skipping for some reason. Has anyone experienced this?

I > have a Diamond MX300 s/c, and it's never done it before. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

There is still another version. David G Fisher "Joona Vainio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9838rk$68d$[email hidden]...

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> > Just so people know, no one has yet seen the gold version of this sim. > Those > > are on their way to reviewers like Kenneth at High Gear right now. The > > versions floating around now are beta copies with unfinished AI, etc. > > Week and a half ago received review version. A serial produced CD of the > final code. Ubisoft was clear this was such. > > AI still leaves lot to hope for. Not so terrible as in preview / demo code > though. > > Joona > >

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Kpbp6.9254$[email hidden]... > There is still another version. In that case Ubisoft would be plain crazy. They would have a review based on unfinished code in Scandinavia's largest computer gaming mag. Of code they said was finished. Go figure. Joona