LWFF Problems

Hi there, I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. I have it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on a P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the Logitech Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this time N3 didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me calibrate it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process, the wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's powered up). Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came on indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is "OK". However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman calibration screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas or brake peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appear to be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed the wheel and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine, but acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's there and the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it doesn't work..). Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. I'm thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force feedback with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 weeks for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a replacement would also be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.. Take care, Tony

It's gotta be machanical. Check the power supply voltage. Trouble-shoot internally if you can. Look for a loose connection (which is a likely culprit when it goes bad suddenly). If *nothing* works (wheel, pedals), it's probably not a pot. tones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi there, > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. Ihave > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on a > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the theLogitech > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this timeN3 > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let mecalibrate > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process,the > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's poweredup). > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came on > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is "OK". > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman calibration > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas orbrake > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appearto > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed thewheel

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> and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine, but > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's there and > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it doesn't > work..). > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. I'm > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force feedback > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 weeks > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a replacement > would also be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > Take care, > > Tony > > >

Check to see if in N3 the 'use optimized' driver is selected. For the LWFF you have to choose the Direct Input option. dave henrie "tones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi there, > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. Ihave > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on a > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the theLogitech > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this timeN3 > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let mecalibrate > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process,the > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's poweredup). > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came on > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is "OK". > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman calibration > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas orbrake > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appearto > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed thewheel

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> and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine, but > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's there and > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it doesn't > work..). > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. I'm > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force feedback > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 weeks > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a replacement > would also be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > Take care, > > Tony > > >

Thanks for the input but it's not a problem related to any specific game/sim. Windows recognizes the wheel is there and shows an 'OK' status but it cannot be calibrated (no inputs are seen at all..). It's like the old cliche.. The lights are on but nobody's home... Take care, Tony "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gr6p6.514896$[email hidden]...

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> Check to see if in N3 the 'use optimized' driver is selected. For the > LWFF you > have to choose the Direct Input option. > dave henrie > "tones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi there, > > > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new > > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. I > have > > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on

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> > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the > Logitech > > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this time > N3 > > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me > calibrate > > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process, > the > > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light > > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's powered > up). > > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came

on > > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control > > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is"OK". > > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingmancalibration

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> > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas or > brake > > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appear > to > > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed the > wheel > > and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine,

but > > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's thereand > > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but itdoesn't > > work..). > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..I'm > > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs forcefeedback > > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5weeks > > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding areplacement

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> > would also be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > > > Take care, > > > > Tony > > > > > > > >

If this guy can't help ya or the forum, I dont know who can, and he has a great ball bearing kit !! click on the link to see his site and then click on the forum and join the E group/yahoo club for this wheel only !!! http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ Rd "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jF5p6.192607$[email hidden]...

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> It's gotta be machanical. Check the power supply voltage. Trouble-shoot > internally if you can. Look for a loose connection (which is a likely > culprit when it goes bad suddenly). If *nothing* works (wheel, pedals), > it's probably not a pot. > > tones <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi there, > > > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new > > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. I > have > > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on

a

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> > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the > Logitech > > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this time > N3 > > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me > calibrate > > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process, > the > > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light > > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's powered > up). > > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came

on > > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control > > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is"OK". > > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingmancalibration

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> > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas or > brake > > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appear > to > > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed the > wheel > > and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine,

but > > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's thereand > > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but itdoesn't > > work..). > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..I'm > > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs forcefeedback > > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5weeks > > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding areplacement

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> > would also be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > > > Take care, > > > > Tony > > > > > > > >

I don't know if this will help or not but here goes. I too have a LWFF Red 1.to 1/2 years old. I find that if I plug in the Logi after bootup to Windows I go in the the joystick control panel applet and the wheel shows as plugged in and o.k. but will not take inputs and will not be recognized in games. Try highlighting it, hitting properties and check then uncheck the box that references combined axis. I am set to go after I do this. Don't know what else to suggest. Good Luck, I love my wheel and would hate to have to replace it. Talon "rdracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zi8p6.3178$[email hidden]... > If this guy can't help ya or the forum, I dont know who can, and he has a > great ball bearing kit !! > click on the link to see his site and then click on the forum and join theE

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> group/yahoo club for this wheel only !!! > http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > > Rd > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jF5p6.192607$[email hidden]... > > It's gotta be machanical. Check the power supply voltage.

Trouble-shoot

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> > internally if you can. Look for a loose connection (which is a likely > > culprit when it goes bad suddenly). If *nothing* works (wheel, pedals), > > it's probably not a pot. > > > > tones <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the

new > > > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend.I > > have > > > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SEon > a > > > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the > > Logitech > > > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, thistime > > N3 > > > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me > > calibrate > > > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the bootprocess, > > the > > > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second greenlight > > > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it'spowered > > up). > > > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green lightcame > on > > > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in thecontrol

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> > > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is > "OK". > > > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman > calibration > > > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas or > > brake > > > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not

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> > to > > > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > > > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed the > > wheel > > > and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine, > but > > > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's there > and > > > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it > doesn't > > > work..). > > > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. > I'm > > > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > > > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force > feedback > > > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > > > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 > weeks > > > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a > replacement > > > would also be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Sounds like you need the patch from the Logitech site www.wingmanteam.com to enable calibration of the LWFF on fast processors. You can also read about this problem on Alison Hine's site where she describes building her new system [email hidden] "tones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi there, > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the new > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. Ihave > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 SE on a > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the theLogitech > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this timeN3 > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let mecalibrate > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot process,the > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green light > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's poweredup). > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light came on > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the control > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is "OK". > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman calibration > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas orbrake > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not appearto > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling the > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed thewheel

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> and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly fine, but > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's there and > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it doesn't > work..). > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. I'm > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force feedback > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with the > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 weeks > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a replacement > would also be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > Take care, > > Tony > > >

Talon, That's all well & good, but if you don't have separate brake & throttle axes in GPL, you're giving away a second or more at most tracks. The 'Ring, for example, is almost undriveable. Also hard hit: Solitude, Crystal, Imola, Rouen, Spa, Holland, Monte Carlo, Riverside, the O'Ring, Louden--a long list. Other tracks--Silverstone, Elkhart, most ovals--are less affected, but still.... --Steve Smith Mediaone <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JH8p6.1162$[email hidden]... > I don't know if this will help or not but here goes. I too have a LWFFRed > 1.to 1/2 years old. I find that if I plug in the Logi after bootup to > Windows I go in the the joystick control panel applet and the wheel showsas

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> plugged in and o.k. but will not take inputs and will not be recognized in > games. Try highlighting it, hitting properties and check then uncheck the > box that references combined axis. I am set to go after I do this. Don't > know what else to suggest. Good Luck, I love my wheel and would hate to > have to replace it. > > Talon > > "rdracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Zi8p6.3178$[email hidden]... > > If this guy can't help ya or the forum, I dont know who can, and he has

a > > great ball bearing kit !! > > click on the link to see his site and then click on the forum and jointhe

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> E > > group/yahoo club for this wheel only !!! > > http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > > > > Rd > > > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:jF5p6.192607$[email hidden]... > > > It's gotta be machanical. Check the power supply voltage. > Trouble-shoot > > > internally if you can. Look for a loose connection (which is a likely > > > culprit when it goes bad suddenly). If *nothing* works (wheel,

pedals),

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> > > it's probably not a pot. > > > > > > tones <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not the > new > > > > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this past weekend. > I > > > have > > > > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98

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> on > > a > > > > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the > > > Logitech > > > > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however, this > time > > > N3 > > > > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me > > > calibrate > > > > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot > process, > > > the > > > > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green > light > > > > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's > powered > > > up). > > > > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light > came > > on > > > > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the > control > > > > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that is > > "OK". > > > > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman > > calibration > > > > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas

or > > > brake > > > > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not > appear > > > to > > > > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstallingthe > > > > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installedthe > > > wheel > > > > and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectlyfine, > > but > > > > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it'sthere

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> > and > > > > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it > > doesn't > > > > work..). > > > > > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. > > I'm > > > > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > > > > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force > > feedback > > > > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with

the

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> > > > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's 3-5 > > weeks > > > > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a > > replacement > > > > would also be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I wasn't recommending using a combined axis, only that that is the only way I can get my LWFF back to windows recognizing it. After having done this little exercise I can select combined or separate if the game calls for it. What this seems to do is "wake" the controller so that windows will see it. Talon "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I3rp6.196596$[email hidden]... > Talon, > > That's all well & good, but if you don't have separate brake & throttleaxes > in GPL, you're giving away a second or more at most tracks. The 'Ring,for

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> example, is almost undriveable. Also hard hit: Solitude, Crystal, Imola, > Rouen, Spa, Holland, Monte Carlo, Riverside, the O'Ring, Louden--a long > list. Other tracks--Silverstone, Elkhart, most ovals--are less affected, > but still.... > > --Steve Smith > > Mediaone <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JH8p6.1162$[email hidden]... > > I don't know if this will help or not but here goes. I too have a LWFF > Red > > 1.to 1/2 years old. I find that if I plug in the Logi after bootup to > > Windows I go in the the joystick control panel applet and the wheel

shows > as > > plugged in and o.k. but will not take inputs and will not be recognizedin > > games. Try highlighting it, hitting properties and check then uncheckthe > > box that references combined axis. I am set to go after I do this.Don't

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> > know what else to suggest. Good Luck, I love my wheel and would hate to > > have to replace it. > > > > Talon > > > > "rdracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Zi8p6.3178$[email hidden]... > > > If this guy can't help ya or the forum, I dont know who can, and he

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> a > > > great ball bearing kit !! > > > click on the link to see his site and then click on the forum and join > the > > E > > > group/yahoo club for this wheel only !!! > > > http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > > > > > > Rd > > > > > > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:jF5p6.192607$[email hidden]... > > > > It's gotta be machanical. Check the power supply voltage. > > Trouble-shoot > > > > internally if you can. Look for a loose connection (which is a

likely

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> > > > culprit when it goes bad suddenly). If *nothing* works (wheel, > pedals), > > > > it's probably not a pot. > > > > > > > > tones <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > I have the Red LWFF wheel that's about a year old (i.e. it's not

the > > new > > > > > version) and it's hasn't given me any grief until this pastweekend.

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> > I > > > > have > > > > > it plugged into the USB port (always have..) and am running Win 98 > SE > > on > > > a > > > > > P3 1 GHz. I always launch my games (N3, N4, etc..) using the the > > > > Logitech > > > > > Wingman software and preceded to do so this Saturday, however,

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> > time > > > > N3 > > > > > didn't recognize that I had the wheel attached and wouldn't let me > > > > calibrate > > > > > it from within the game. I rebooted and always during the boot > > process, > > > > the > > > > > wheel will turn by itself from side to side when the second green > > light > > > > > comes on (the first green light always being on as long as it's > > powered > > > > up). > > > > > Well, this time, the wheel didn't move when the second green light > > came > > > on > > > > > indicating that something was amiss. I checked the wheel in the > > control > > > > > pannel and sure enough, it is detected and the status states that

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> > > "OK". > > > > > However, when you hit on properties to calibrate, the Wingman > > > calibration > > > > > screen comes up but turning the wheel or depressing either the gas > or > > > > brake > > > > > peddles does not have any effect. The inputs to the wheel do not > > appear > > > > to > > > > > be seen by the calibration screen.. Anyway, I tried uninstalling > the > > > > > drivers and reinstalling and that did not work. I also installed > the > > > > wheel > > > > > and software on my fiance's computer and it installed perfectly > fine, > > > but > > > > > acts the exact same way as on mine (i.e. windows shows that it's > there > > > and > > > > > the status is "OK" and both green lights are illuminated.. but it > > > doesn't > > > > > work..). > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be greatly

appreciated..

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> > > I'm > > > > > thinking the unit is toast and I'm trying to decide on a suitable > > > > > replacement. I kinda have it narrowed down to an ACT-Labs force > > > feedback > > > > > with shifter (on sale for $189.00 presently) or a TSW-2 setup with > the > > > > > clutch (very expensive though... and they are backlogged so it's

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> > > weeks > > > > > for delivery..). Any comments or recommendations regarding a > > > replacement > > > > > would also be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance.. > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >