Which types of CD-ROM drive is Nascar 4 having problems with?

Can anyone tell me the manufacturers that there seem to be problems with? And is there any solution yet?

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** It would probably be easier to ask which one's don't... To start off, the Kenwood 72x is ok IF you install the latest firmware. However, if there is a DVD drive (in my case, Pioneer DVD-113) or CDRW drive (in my case, HP 9200 SCSI) also installed, you may have trouble. I did. I had to remove the DVD AND the CDRW and put them in my server instead. It's sad, and this should not be an issue :( The honest get inconvenienced terribly, and the pirates party on... -Larry "Ryan S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can anyone tell me the manufacturers that there seem to be problems with? > And is there any solution yet? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:57:47 -0000, "Ryan S" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can anyone tell me the manufacturers that there seem to be problems with? >And is there any solution yet? I can tell you it doesn't work right with my Memorex 48 speed. I know this is just a re-badged drive made by someone else, but I don't know who. Unfortunately, I have one of these drives in each of my two machines, so I have to play N4 with the crack and can't play online. It also seems that people are having problems with DVD drives. Tim

Works great with my AFreey 56X

The solution is for Sierra to remove the pathetic copy protection scheme they are using and allow our CD Rom drives to perform as they were designed to perform, instead of expecting them to read purposely designed faulty disk sectors.. It doesn't work with my Panasonic 48 speed drive either, though every other piece of software i own works faultlessly with it, so i won't be changing it to compensate for N4's faulty system. I will just have to keep running the no-cd crack on my legal software to enjoy it, even though i can't use it on-line like i should be able to do. Cheers, Ron Ryan S <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>... > Can anyone tell me the manufacturers that there seem to be problemswith? > And is there any solution yet? > > >

> It doesn't work with my Panasonic 48 speed drive either, though every > other piece of software i own works faultlessly with it, so i won't be > changing it to compensate for N4's faulty system. I have two Panasonic drives in my machine, so this worries me a bit. I have a DVD ROM, and a CD Writer. Hopefully something will be sorted before the UK release in a few weeks. Does the problem only occur when you try to run the game, or does it not like installing on some drives?

"Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3aa67146$[email hidden]... > **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > It would probably be easier to ask which one's don't... > > To start off, the Kenwood 72x is ok IF you install the latest firmware. > However, if there is a DVD drive (in my case, Pioneer DVD-113) or CDRWdrive > (in my case, HP 9200 SCSI) also installed, you may have trouble. > HP 9100 ide cdrw and it installed and runs fine.... dave henrie

I have the Pioneer DVD-103s (basically the slot load version of the DVD-113) and N4 works just fine. Do you have the 1.14 firmware for the DVD-113? -- Eric "Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3aa67146$[email hidden]... > To start off, the Kenwood 72x is ok IF you install the latest firmware. > However, if there is a DVD drive (in my case, Pioneer DVD-113) or CDRW drive > (in my case, HP 9200 SCSI) also installed, you may have trouble.

That's not how SecuROM works: http://www.securom.com -- Eric "Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:01c0a758$df361cc0$ef3d36cb@ronayton... > The solution is for Sierra to remove the pathetic copy protection > scheme they are using and allow our CD Rom drives to perform as they > were designed to perform, instead of expecting them to read purposely > designed faulty disk sectors..

However it works Eric, it doesnt work for a stock standard non-problamatical Panasonic 48 speed cd rom drive which gives me absolutely no problems in any other software. I can't even legally use my N4 on Sierra's on-line interface, because i have to use a no-cd crack to play my legally bought damn game.. Companys that use this sort of crap are not hurting the pirates, just the legitimate customers, so justify it how you like... Ron. Eric Busch <[email hidden]> wrote in article <986l3b$8c$[email hidden]>...

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> That's not how SecuROM works: http://www.securom.com > > -- > Eric > > "Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:01c0a758$df361cc0$ef3d36cb@ronayton... > > The solution is for Sierra to remove the pathetic copy protection > > scheme they are using and allow our CD Rom drives to perform as

they > > were designed to perform, instead of expecting them to readpurposely > > designed faulty disk sectors.. > > >

Get a new N4 CD...it worked for me. I thought I had the "copy protection" problem on my Panasonic DVD drive, but a second disk works perfectly. Marc. "Tim O" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:51:48 -0500, "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >That's not how SecuROM works: http://www.securom.com > > They're claiming a 99.9% compatibilty with all drives on the market, > and I can tell you just from the number of people reporting problems > here that number is way off. I'd be hesitant to say the percentage is > much over 90. > > The real kicker is that people are saying they are able to copy the > disc with CloneCD, which means this is all for nothing. > > I'm not trying to take this out on you, because you're a good, > longtime RAS dude and this probably wasn't your decision, but I won't > be buying any more Sierra or Papyrus games that use SecuROM. > The warez is readily available, and legit purchasers like me are > getting screwed. It's really bad. > > Tim >

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:02:27 -0000, "Ryan S" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Does the problem only occur when you try to run the game, or does it not >like installing on some drives? It installs fine, but kicks back to the desktop when you try to run it. Tim

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:51:48 -0500, "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote: >That's not how SecuROM works: http://www.securom.com They're claiming a 99.9% compatibilty with all drives on the market, and I can tell you just from the number of people reporting problems here that number is way off. I'd be hesitant to say the percentage is much over 90. The real kicker is that people are saying they are able to copy the disc with CloneCD, which means this is all for nothing. I'm not trying to take this out on you, because you're a good, longtime RAS dude and this probably wasn't your decision, but I won't be buying any more Sierra or Papyrus games that use SecuROM. The warez is readily available, and legit purchasers like me are getting screwed. It's really bad. Tim

Had a Creative CD-RW 4224 and wouldn't work. Bought a generic 56x and worked fine. BTW I don't know if I ever thanked you guys for that info. Thanks Ryan S wrote: > Can anyone tell me the manufacturers that there seem to be problems with? > And is there any solution yet?