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Identifying the corner in a 1967 Spa Lotus 49 photo
Rob Swindells shared a classic photo of Jim Clark's Lotus 49 at Spa in 1967, captioned as the Masta kink. Readers debated whether it was really Masta, with one noting the image appeared mirrored and others unsure which corner it showed.
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> http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg > > -- > Rob Swindells > ///////////// > Caps > Lock > > where these cars 4 wheel drive? got's enough clearance to say so <g>
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>http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg > >-- >Rob Swindells >///////////// >Caps >Lock > >If that's the straight after the kink, just where the heck was the
photographer standing? Had to be the middle of track.
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> http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg > > -- > Rob Swindells > ///////////// > Caps > Lock > >If only I could get a pic like that without the quoted text and in 1024x768.
I need a nice b/w like that for my desktop ;)
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Looks to me like (can't remember the name...) the first sharp left
hander after the S/F. Left/right chacain type or turn, then a left after
that. Then there's a strait and a right hank kink. Then there's the left
that I'm thinking of. There is a tree there and a sign about the same place
in GPL. and the elevation changes look right. Plus looking at the
background I may be right. Still could be the Masta kink though.
Any case, I imagine photographers were right up to the edge of the track
in that time frame(?)
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>If that's the straight after the kink, just where the heck was the >photographer standing? Had to be the middle of track. > >"Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg >> >> -- >> Rob Swindells >> ///////////// >> Caps >> Lock >> >> > >
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> Looks to me like (can't remember the name...) the first sharp left
> hander after the S/F. Left/right chacain type or turn,You mean one of the most famous corners in GP, Eau Rouge? shame on you Mike
;)
> then a left after
> that. Then there's a strait and a right hank kink. Then there's the left
> that I'm thinking of.Top of the hill, guard rail on the right? Les Combe
You could be right, I think if it was after Masta there'd be a bank in the
background. I'll have to re-watch Grand Prix.
Any of you chaps that bothered to read the text at the bottom of the
picture??
It reads:
"Clark's Lotus 49 flies through the *Masta kink* at Spa in 1967"
......[snipped]
Can there be any doubt now??
ed_
> You could be right, I think if it was after Masta there'd be a bank in the
> background. I'll have to re-watch Grand Prix.
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If you'd bothered to read our posts, you'd see we were expressing doubt with
the caption. ;)
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> Any of you chaps that bothered to read the text at the bottom of the > picture?? > > It reads: > > "Clark's Lotus 49 flies through the *Masta kink* at Spa in 1967" > ......[snipped] > > Can there be any doubt now?? > > ed_ > > > You could be right, I think if it was after Masta there'd be a bank in
Ed Solheim wrote in message ...
Text like that could easily be misprinted, or flat out wrong. The guy
who put the text there may have thought that that is where it was taken. Or
the photographer may have gave him the photo thinking it was another one he
took at mast. Or it just could be masta ;-)
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>Any of you chaps that bothered to read the text at the bottom of the >picture?? > >It reads: > >"Clark's Lotus 49 flies through the *Masta kink* at Spa in 1967" >......[snipped] > >Can there be any doubt now?? >On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:59:21 -0500, "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]>
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>If only I could get a pic like that without the quoted text and in 1024x768.
>I need a nice b/w like that for my desktop ;)
You've got mail....
~daxe
This picture is taken from a book by photographer Michael Cooper. The
book, "Sixties Motor Racing" is limited to just 1500 copies I think, and
it costs �250 :)
I'm not entirely sure it's Masta either... but it's a bloody fantastic
photo!
This link doesn't help, but interesting anyway.
http://www.racer.demon.nl/6thgear/masta-kink.jpg
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> http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg > > -- > Rob Swindells > ///////////// > Caps > LockDidn't ANYBODY notice that the photo is "mirrored" left-right ?
look at the number, it's a 15, and it looks like a SI ...
It IS masta all right, except the photo is just in the wrong direction.
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> If that's the straight after the kink, just where the heck was the > photographer standing? Had to be the middle of track. > > "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg > > > > -- > > Rob Swindells > > ///////////// > > Caps > > Lock > > > > > > >
Txl wrote in message ...
hmm... That does work, good eye. However, I see 21 to further confuse
the issue ;-)
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>Didn't ANYBODY notice that the photo is "mirrored" left-right ? > >look at the number, it's a 15, and it looks like a SI ... > >It IS masta all right, except the photo is just in the wrong direction. > >If you look carefully, it looks like the ENTRY to Masta, the car has just
turned in after the tree and is about to hit the 1st apex, and the
photographer is standing inside the barrier, on the 2nd apex.
I think....
Lol SpeedFreek..
(Stood there last year.. looks a bit different now!)
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> the photographer may have gave him the photo thinking it was another onehe
> took at mast. Or it just could be masta ;-)
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For what it's worth, I looked at the picture and instantly, before reading
any of the text, said to myself, " that's Masta."
KFG
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> > Ed Solheim wrote in message ... > >Any of you chaps that bothered to read the text at the bottom of the > >picture?? > > > >It reads: > > > >"Clark's Lotus 49 flies through the *Masta kink* at Spa in 1967" > >......[snipped] > > > >Can there be any doubt now?? > > > > Text like that could easily be misprinted, or flat out wrong. The guy > who put the text there may have thought that that is where it was taken.I agree with SpeedFreek.
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> > If you look carefully, it looks like the ENTRY to Masta, the car has just > turned in after the tree and is about to hit the 1st apex, and the > photographer is standing inside the barrier, on the 2nd apex. > > I think.... > > Lol SpeedFreek.. > (Stood there last year.. looks a bit different now!)Certainly looks familiar. I can feel myself sliding round it at 150MPH
anyway.
Chris
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| This picture is taken from a book by photographer Michael Cooper. The | book, "Sixties Motor Racing" is limited to just 1500 copies I think, and | it costs �250 :) | | I'm not entirely sure it's Masta either... but it's a bloody fantastic | photo! | | This link doesn't help, but interesting anyway. | | http://www.racer.demon.nl/6thgear/masta-kink.jpg | | Rob Swindells wrote: | | > http://www.robswindells.com/Lotus49.jpg | > | > -- | > Rob Swindells | > ///////////// | > Caps | > Lock | | -- | Rob Swindells | ///////////// | Caps | Lock | |I agree, looks more like 21.
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> > Txl wrote in message ... > >Didn't ANYBODY notice that the photo is "mirrored" left-right ? > > > >look at the number, it's a 15, and it looks like a SI ... > > > >It IS masta all right, except the photo is just in the wrong direction. > > > > > > hmm... That does work, good eye. However, I see 21 to further confuse > the issue ;-) > >I just flipped it round in Photoshop. It's much more like 15 if you
mirror the picture. If that's right then it isn't masta. Come to think
of it, I can't think which corner it is at all now!
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