Congrats to Kevin Harvick

Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. Even if it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. Russ

Ya, Harvick outta be singing the praises of Bodine on that one, looks like the 24 will be dominant this season.

switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race...Thanks bozo I guess I can shut off my tape machine now... dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. Evenif

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> it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > Russ > > > >

Leave your VCR on. Last 12 laps were AMAZING! Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZWSq6.552387$[email hidden]... > switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race...Thanks bozo I guessI > can shut off my tape machine now... > dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again.Even

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> if > > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > >

Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. Evenif > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. It would have been much nicer to see it with my own eyes! Jeez -- do you think Kevin jumps out of the car and races over to see what the guys in R.A.S. think an hour after the race? I usually blame myself for checking any auto-racing site or group, before I've seen the tape (one time I got burned shopping for slot cars!), but I didn't think there'd be much danger in checking out a sim group a half-hour after the race ended. Rats. Scott Willingham

"Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. Evenif > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > Russ > Next time please put Spoiler in the title. In Europe we don't get highlights of the race until next Sunday so I try to avoid seeing the result. Unfortunately I haven't managed to do that today. Cheers Phil -- http://www.legendscentral.com http://www.geocities.com/f2_festival F1 GPL Handicap: -2.85 secs F2 GPL Handicap: +115.11 secs

Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew the results, the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm happy for Richard Childress and Co. Russ "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qYTq6.17017$[email hidden]... > > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again.Even

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> if > > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > > > Russ > > > > > Next time please put Spoiler in the title. In Europe we don't get > highlights of the race until next Sunday so I try to avoid seeing the > result. Unfortunately I haven't managed to do that today. > > Cheers > > Phil > -- > http://www.legendscentral.com > http://www.geocities.com/f2_festival > > F1 GPL Handicap: -2.85 secs > F2 GPL Handicap: +115.11 secs > >

"Get over it"? How about you just follow the rules of the group. Or are you one of those people that say "I know it's against the rules, but..." "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:98Vq6.397204$[email hidden]... > Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew theresults, > the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm happyfor

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> Richard Childress and Co. > > Russ > > > "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qYTq6.17017$[email hidden]... > > > > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. > Even > > if > > > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > Next time please put Spoiler in the title. In Europe we don't get > > highlights of the race until next Sunday so I try to avoid seeing the > > result. Unfortunately I haven't managed to do that today. > > > > Cheers > > > > Phil > > -- > > http://www.legendscentral.com > > http://www.geocities.com/f2_festival > > > > F1 GPL Handicap: -2.85 secs > > F2 GPL Handicap: +115.11 secs > > > > > > >

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:55:33 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew the results, >the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm happy for >Richard Childress and Co. The proper response is, "Excuse me, I didn't really stop to think about this being a global forum. I'll put Spoiler in the Subject line next time. Sorry about that." They're a pissy bunch because you spoiled their chance to let the race unfold with the outcome unknown, just--I must point out--as it did for you to your obvious enjoyment. I strongly suggest that you take a step back for just a minute and ponder this from other people's point of view. Telling people to "get over it" ain't gonna cut it in most social situations. Tell that to the room the next time you fart at an important meeting with you boss and some clients. Regards, Brett C. Cammack brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)

lol; another person coming to a newsgroup and expect to not see news! "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZWSq6.552387$[email hidden]... > switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race...Thanks bozo I guessI > can shut off my tape machine now... > dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again.Even

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> if > > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > >

If I truly offended, upset, or saddened anyone with my congratulatory post concerning today's race, then I'm sorry. However, the results of the race were practically everywhere on the web because of whose car it was. I didn't feel that I was breaking any rules by making this post. Hell, if it wasn't for this newsgroup, I wouldn't have found out about who won the Australian GP, or about the track marshall that was killed there. (Oops, spoiler again) Oh, and about the rules of the group; if someone would post a hyperlink to a URL with a FAQ about rec.autos.simulators and show me where it's against the rules to leak real life race info, then I will again offer my apologies for breaking said "rule". But because even @home posted the headlines from today's race on their home page, much to the chagrin of the @home customers who videotaped the race, but didn't watch it yet, I figured it was somewhat common knowledge. Again, I apologize to those who were greatly offended, hurt, or had their lives in anyway disrupted because of this. Russ Get over it.

Oh, and Brett, I can control my sphincter enough to not fart in business meetings, social situations, or important gatherings with people who's opinion I greatly value. Russ "Brett C. Cammack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:55:33 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew theresults, > >the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm happyfor

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> >Richard Childress and Co. > > The proper response is, "Excuse me, I didn't really stop to think > about this being a global forum. I'll put Spoiler in the Subject line > next time. Sorry about that." > > They're a pissy bunch because you spoiled their chance to let the race > unfold with the outcome unknown, just--I must point out--as it did for > you to your obvious enjoyment. I strongly suggest that you take a > step back for just a minute and ponder this from other people's point > of view. > > Telling people to "get over it" ain't gonna cut it in most social > situations. Tell that to the room the next time you fart at an > important meeting with you boss and some clients. > > Regards, > Brett C. Cammack > > > > brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet > (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)

"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bfXq6.35615$[email hidden]... > lol; another person coming to a newsgroup and expect to not see news! No I merely expect a little COMMON CONSIDERATION from our fellow users. Many folks world wide won't get to see the race immeadiately. Yet now somebody in the subject line blabs the whole result. Geez Loueez folks...how hard would it have been to say..... ot; WOW what a finish... or Congrats to the Nascar winner... or HEY DAVE! Don't open this thread. Save it til after you've seen the race. but noooooooooooo we get the above topic.... courtesy lads...courtesy. dave henrie

We all make mistakes...I'm sorry I went off...just in the future put a spoiler heading up so we can skip the message thread til later....thanks. dave henrie "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VFXq6.397964$[email hidden]... > If I truly offended, upset, or saddened anyone with my congratulatory post > concerning today's race, then I'm sorry(snips) > Get over it. hehe almost missed it. I used that line myself last week. dave henrie >

Ditto... But, will Jr's luck EVER change ? Man, I simply could not believe what happened this time. It looked like he would finally be up near the front, and blammo. He blew a tire. -Larry "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. Evenif

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Yeah, but the occasional slip is fun :) -Larry "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tHXq6.397983$[email hidden]...

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> Oh, and Brett, I can control my sphincter enough to not fart in business > meetings, social situations, or important gatherings with people who's > opinion I greatly value. > > Russ > > > "Brett C. Cammack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:55:33 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew the > results, > > >the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm

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> for > > >Richard Childress and Co. > > > > The proper response is, "Excuse me, I didn't really stop to think > > about this being a global forum. I'll put Spoiler in the Subject line > > next time. Sorry about that." > > > > They're a pissy bunch because you spoiled their chance to let the race > > unfold with the outcome unknown, just--I must point out--as it did for > > you to your obvious enjoyment. I strongly suggest that you take a > > step back for just a minute and ponder this from other people's point > > of view. > > > > Telling people to "get over it" ain't gonna cut it in most social > > situations. Tell that to the room the next time you fart at an > > important meeting with you boss and some clients. > > > > Regards, > > Brett C. Cammack > > > > > > > > brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet > > (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately) > >

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:51:32 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:bfXq6.35615$[email hidden]... >> lol; another person coming to a newsgroup and expect to not see news! > No I merely expect a little COMMON CONSIDERATION from our fellow users. >Many folks world wide won't get to see the race immeadiately. Yet now >somebody >in the subject line blabs the whole result. Geez Loueez folks...how hard >would it have been to say..... > ot; WOW what a finish... >or > Congrats to the Nascar winner... >or >HEY DAVE! Don't open this thread. Save it til after you've seen the race. >but noooooooooooo we get the above topic.... >courtesy lads...courtesy. >dave henrie > >

I think most people agree, Dave - however,it's never gonna happen. There's simply too many people who don't realise there's an entire world out there reading these groups - many of whom are forced to watch races (or soccer games, or what have you) some time after they take place. Those of us living Down Under can relate particularly well. For that reason, I avoid usenet until I can see the event in question, and make sure not to watch news or visit news sites too. Maybe they lack common courtesy, but I can still use some common sense. DG

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> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:51:32 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:bfXq6.35615$[email hidden]... > >> lol; another person coming to a newsgroup and expect to not see news! > > No I merely expect a little COMMON CONSIDERATION from our fellow users. > >Many folks world wide won't get to see the race immeadiately. Yet now > >somebody > >in the subject line blabs the whole result. Geez Loueez folks...how hard > >would it have been to say..... > > ot; WOW what a finish... > >or > > Congrats to the Nascar winner... > >or > >HEY DAVE! Don't open this thread. Save it til after you've seen the race. > >but noooooooooooo we get the above topic.... > >courtesy lads...courtesy. > >dave henrie > > > > > > I think most people agree, Dave - however,it's never gonna happen. > There's simply too many people who don't realise there's an entire > world out there reading these groups - many of whom are forced to > watch races (or soccer games, or what have you) some time after they > take place. Those of us living Down Under can relate particularly > well. For that reason, I avoid usenet until I can see the event in > question, and make sure not to watch news or visit news sites too. > Maybe they lack common courtesy, but I can still use some common > sense.

You are right, that's why I don't read the F1 newsgroup or CART newsgroup if I don't want the F1 or CART result. However, it should be common sence to put spoiler warnings in other newsgroups where real life race results are off topic. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

In article <sZVq6.15785$[email hidden]>, "Sammy Marks" <[email hidden]> writes: >"Get over it"? How about you just follow the rules of the group. Or are you >one of those people that say "I know it's against the rules, but..." I really don't think there's a rule in the FAQ for this. There may be an unwritten or 'understood' rule, but you can't punish someone for posting. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <qYTq6.17017$[email hidden]>, "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> writes: >Next time please put Spoiler in the title. In Europe we don't get >highlights of the race until next Sunday so I try to avoid seeing the >result. Unfortunately I haven't managed to do that today. > The only *sure* way to avoid seeing the results here is not to read the group. The majority WILL post 'SPOILER', but there's always at least ONE person who doesn't. In your case, you'd have to avoid the group for a week... :( Besides, how long should one wait after an even before discussing it? Most people who tape the race usually watch it within a day or two. What if they don't watch it for 3 weeks? Are they going to be upset that someone mentions the race two weeks from now? At that point, I'd say it was old news, but what's the 'cut-off' date? It's a no-win situation... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well said, besides, I don't mind it being spoiled. Nascar coverage is sporadic and short anyway over here, so might as well read about it here. Jan. =--- EldredP wrote...

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> <snip> > The only *sure* way to avoid seeing the results here is not to > read the group. The majority WILL post 'SPOILER', but there's > always at least ONE person who doesn't. In your case, you'd > have to avoid the group for a week... > Besides, how long should one wait after an even before > discussing it? Most people who tape the race usually watch it > within a day or two. What if they don't watch it for 3 weeks? > Are they going to be upset that someone mentions the race two > weeks from now? At that point, I'd say it was old news, but > what's the 'cut-off' date? It's a no-win situation... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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Hmmm... might as well, because if this dude knows who won, the race is probably over. ;-) Jan. =--- Dave Henrie wrote... > switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race... > Thanks bozo I guess I can shut off my tape machine now... > > dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie

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>[email hidden] (Disgruntled Goat) writes: > >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:51:32 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:bfXq6.35615$[email hidden]... >> >> lol; another person coming to a newsgroup and expect to not see news! >> > No I merely expect a little COMMON CONSIDERATION from our fellow users. >> >Many folks world wide won't get to see the race immeadiately. Yet now >> >somebody >> >in the subject line blabs the whole result. Geez Loueez folks...how hard >> >would it have been to say..... >> > ot; WOW what a finish... >> >or >> > Congrats to the Nascar winner... >> >or >> >HEY DAVE! Don't open this thread. Save it til after you've seen the race. >> >but noooooooooooo we get the above topic.... >> >courtesy lads...courtesy. >> >dave henrie >> > >> > >> >> I think most people agree, Dave - however,it's never gonna happen. >> There's simply too many people who don't realise there's an entire >> world out there reading these groups - many of whom are forced to >> watch races (or soccer games, or what have you) some time after they >> take place. Those of us living Down Under can relate particularly >> well. For that reason, I avoid usenet until I can see the event in >> question, and make sure not to watch news or visit news sites too. >> Maybe they lack common courtesy, but I can still use some common >> sense. > >You are right, that's why I don't read the F1 newsgroup or CART >newsgroup if I don't want the F1 or CART result. However, it should be >common sence to put spoiler warnings in other newsgroups where real >life race results are off topic. >

Given the crappy coverage in many parts of the world, it SHOULD be common sense to include SPOILER in those groups too. However, i've been around usenet long enough to know that common sense isn't so common... DG

LOL Russ "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nmYq6.94398$[email hidden]...

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> Yeah, but the occasional slip is fun :) > > -Larry > > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tHXq6.397983$[email hidden]... > > Oh, and Brett, I can control my sphincter enough to not fart in business > > meetings, social situations, or important gatherings with people who's > > opinion I greatly value. > > > > Russ > > > > > > "Brett C. Cammack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:55:33 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Boy, y'all are a pissy bunch of folks today. Even if you knew the > > results, > > > >the last 50 or so laps are highly entertaining. Get over it. I'm > happy > > for > > > >Richard Childress and Co. > > > > > > The proper response is, "Excuse me, I didn't really stop to think > > > about this being a global forum. I'll put Spoiler in the Subject line > > > next time. Sorry about that." > > > > > > They're a pissy bunch because you spoiled their chance to let the race > > > unfold with the outcome unknown, just--I must point out--as it did for > > > you to your obvious enjoyment. I strongly suggest that you take a > > > step back for just a minute and ponder this from other people's point > > > of view. > > > > > > Telling people to "get over it" ain't gonna cut it in most social > > > situations. Tell that to the room the next time you fart at an > > > important meeting with you boss and some clients. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Brett C. Cammack > > > > > > > > > > > > brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet > > > (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately) > > > > > >

Back to real life NASCAR, is anyone gonna complain that Chevy's have won all the races so far this season? Russ "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ckYq6.94388$[email hidden]... > Ditto... > > But, will Jr's luck EVER change ? > > Man, I simply could not believe what happened this time. It looked likehe

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>If I truly offended, upset, or saddened anyone with my congratulatory post >concerning today's race, then I'm sorry. However, the results of the race >were practically everywhere on the web because of whose car it was. I >didn't feel that I was breaking any rules by making this post. Hell, if it >wasn't for this newsgroup, I wouldn't have found out about who won the >Australian GP, or about the track marshall that was killed there. (Oops, >spoiler again) > >Oh, and about the rules of the group; if someone would post a hyperlink to >a URL with a FAQ about rec.autos.simulators and show me where it's against >the rules to leak real life race info, then I will again offer my apologies >for breaking said "rule".

The original charter (and some real oldtimers!!) can be found at the end of this document. http://www.landfield.com/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.autos.simulators The important bit is the Charter CHARTER This newsgroup will be used for discussions of realistic computer simulations of automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on which said simulations are supported. This will include simulations which have a competitive component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Topics will include (but are not restricted to): o Global characteristics of particular simulations. o Platform-dependent characteristics of such simulations (as a convention, it is suggested that such discussions list the platforms in the subject header, e.g., Subject: [ibm-pc,sun] Blog's Yugo simulator o Design and implementation issues of such simulations. o Issues of realism in automotive simulation. o General discussion of automobile simulations. > >But because even @home posted the headlines from today's race on their home >page, much to the chagrin of the @home customers who videotaped the race, >but didn't watch it yet, I figured it was somewhat common knowledge. Again, >I apologize to those who were greatly offended, hurt, or had their lives in >anyway disrupted because of this. Your appology is accepted.

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Grow up Regards, Anthony Bulloch

But Dave, *WHY* switch to the CART race??? It's only a road race and the first event at that. No way could it provide the action of Atlanta... Dave Henrie wrote:

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>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:ckYq6.94388$[email hidden]... >> Ditto... >> >> But, will Jr's luck EVER change ? >> >> Man, I simply could not believe what happened this time. It looked like >he >> would finally be up near the front, and blammo. He blew a tire.

I guess the 2nd place finish at Daytona wasn't close enough to the front for you?

"Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > But Dave, *WHY* switch to the CART race??? It's only a road race and thefirst > event at that. No way could it provide the action of Atlanta... Because I still remember the days when Lola was King and Mikey and Al Jr. could start mid-pak and blast their way to the front....Seems like those days are becomming as rare as a pass in F1. Anyhooo....a road course will grab my attention quicker than an oval anyday...plus....the Champ cars have one thing the Winston Cup cars are missing.....WINGS! Still waiting for a patch so I can slap slicks on an F15 Strike Eagle and jet around Bristol.... dave henrie > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race...Thanks bozo Iguess I > > can shut off my tape machine now... > > dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie > > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again.Even

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In article <39hr6.405388$[email hidden]>, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> writes: >Back to real life NASCAR, is anyone gonna complain that Chevy's have won all >the races so far this season? > >Russ They've BEEN complaining. Even though I like Dale Jarrett, I feel he's whining too much... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I've suspected it for a while but you just confirmed it. Man, you are a sicko. :) Wings are for airplane and chickens. Not cars. Road race? Yawn, wake me up with 3 to go... Dave Henrie wrote:

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> "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > But Dave, *WHY* switch to the CART race??? It's only a road race and the > first > > event at that. No way could it provide the action of Atlanta... > > Because I still remember the days when Lola was King and Mikey and Al Jr. > could start mid-pak and blast their way to the front....Seems like those > days > are becomming as rare as a pass in F1. Anyhooo....a road course will grab > my attention quicker than an oval anyday...plus....the Champ cars have one > thing the Winston Cup cars are missing.....WINGS! Still waiting for a > patch > so I can slap slicks on an F15 Strike Eagle and jet around Bristol.... > dave henrie > > > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > switched over from Nascar to watch the CART race...Thanks bozo I > guess I > > > can shut off my tape machine now... > > > dave(every year we talk about SPOILER titles..)henrie > > > "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:FnSq6.396959$[email hidden]... > > > > Great to see the Goodwrench Monte Carlo back in Victory Lane again. > Even > > > if > > > > it's #29 instead of #3. Congrats to Kevin again. > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Actually, even though I'm a member of the Bowtie Brigade, I think that there might be something with the idea that ford might have a disadvantage. OTOH, take a good look at the winning teams. DEI is definitely an up and coming unit, and if you put $1M on the line each week he'd probably win half the races. The one thought that does scare me is what's going to happen when Dodge gets it's engine package sorted out? For something new as that to be contenders right out of the box is scaring. Particularly when you consider it's lead team is one that just last year was one of the laughing stocks of the paddock. I think before the year is out they'll lose a little bit of spoiler. Of course, the demise of the Rouschkateers is a huge thing. If they come back they could be a force. Or, they could remain a farce. Is it possible that ford is throwing away the first part of the season, hoping to get some help and then making a run? Possible, but not likely. Could end up giving up too much ground that they can't take back later. EldredP wrote:

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> In article <39hr6.405388$[email hidden]>, "Russell D. > Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Back to real life NASCAR, is anyone gonna complain that Chevy's have won all > >the races so far this season? > > > >Russ > > They've BEEN complaining. Even though I like Dale Jarrett, I feel he's whining > too much... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I agree with the you on the Dodges. Those boys look damn impressive so far. Of course if you have 5 or 6 teams work together in R&D then you'll get some results much quicker. I read some stuff where Chrysler orchestrated all the testing, data sharing, and the like so all the teams would benefit from one testing. And of course, there's that Ray Evernham thing too..... Russ "Mike Donnelly Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Actually, even though I'm a member of the Bowtie Brigade, I think thatthere might > be something with the idea that ford might have a disadvantage. OTOH,take a good > look at the winning teams. DEI is definitely an up and coming unit, andif you put > $1M on the line each week he'd probably win half the races. > > The one thought that does scare me is what's going to happen when Dodgegets it's > engine package sorted out? For something new as that to be contendersright out of > the box is scaring. Particularly when you consider it's lead team is onethat just > last year was one of the laughing stocks of the paddock. I think beforethe year > is out they'll lose a little bit of spoiler. > > Of course, the demise of the Rouschkateers is a huge thing. If they comeback they > could be a force. Or, they could remain a farce. Is it possible thatford is > throwing away the first part of the season, hoping to get some help andthen making > a run? Possible, but not likely. Could end up giving up too much groundthat they > can't take back later. > > > EldredP wrote: > > > In article <39hr6.405388$[email hidden]>, "RussellD. > > Laughlin Jr., MCSE" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Back to real life NASCAR, is anyone gonna complain that Chevy's havewon all > > >the races so far this season? > > > > > >Russ > > > > They've BEEN complaining. Even though I like Dale Jarrett, I feel he'swhining

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> > too much... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

In article <[email hidden]>, Mike Donnelly Jr <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Actually, even though I'm a member of the Bowtie Brigade, I think that there >might >be something with the idea that ford might have a disadvantage. OTOH, take >a good >look at the winning teams. DEI is definitely an up and coming unit, and if >you put >$1M on the line each week he'd probably win half the races.

But if Ford isn't doing as well as they want, they should just work harder. In my opinion, crying to NASCAR just means they can't win without help. They should shut up and work harder. And I'll say it again - if NASCAR wants everything totally *even*, make the races SPEC races. Everyone gets the same car, and the best team and driver wins. These constant rule changes to give one team an advantage, or take advantages from another are absurd. Don't punish a team because they got it RIGHT...or help another because they got it WRONG...sheesh. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.