Was it just me or did that CART race suck

I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me?

> >I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, >the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they >barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > It's just you. This race was more F1 like than the usual rockem sockem champcar races. enjoy it for what it was.

"drinklime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was soboring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? I thought the same thing. A friend of mine who's not into racing stuck around today to watch it and I felt like apologizing afterwards. :-/

It was a shame, really - the track was a bit of grip and two chicanes shy of being decent. Unfortunately, somebody decided those two silly chicanes were necessary (why?) - they effectively removed two of the three realistic passing spots, and the lack of grip negated the third. If they revised the track for next year, it might make for a good race. As it was, it was a major snore-fest, with the very-F1-like "most of the passes happening in the pits". Rick "Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:98htrg$spr$[email hidden]...

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> > "drinklime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so > boring, > > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > > I thought the same thing. A friend of mine who's not into racing stuck > around today to watch it and I felt like apologizing afterwards. :-/ > >

On 12 Mar 2001 04:41:05 GMT, you wrote:

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>> >>I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, >>the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they >>barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? >> > >It's just you. This race was more F1 like than the usual rockem sockem >champcar races. enjoy it for what it was.

No, sorry, the race was immensely BORING. With little grip even in the groove, and no grip at all off the racing line, the race was mostly a parade. "F1 like" means that most of the passing happens in the pits. Dull, dull, dull. Now that finish in the Winston Cup race at Atlanta had me standing up yelling for the last six laps or so. Sunday was the unhappy reverse of what I had expected, but at least there was one race worth watching.

Starting to turn into F1. ;) Micky Mouse circuits always make for boring racing. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +10.02 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "drinklime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > > >

I *kinda* agree. The track was far too slick and was in too poor condition to put on any sort of real race. But, it was still a decent race with the Zanardi incidents and Brack driving his balls off at the end, etc. Better than an F1 race anyday still!! ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

Compared to other CART races in the past and the NASCAR race on the same day, yes, it was. But don't let it kill CART for ya, Long Beach is next!!! I actually did like the track, but if they could just fix the surface it would be great! Nick drinklime wrote: > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me?

bad race, too many drivers worried about points for the qualifying rounds in Long Beach. And Long Beach should be their first race. pez drinklime <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was soboring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > >

I think most of the problem was the track.. it was aweful. -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 "drinklime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > >

"Chris Noto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 12 Mar 2001 04:41:05 GMT, you wrote: > > >> > >>I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was soboring,

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> >>the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > >>barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > >> > > > >It's just you. This race was more F1 like than the usual rockem sockem > >champcar races. enjoy it for what it was. > > No, sorry, the race was immensely BORING. With little grip even in the > groove, and no grip at all off the racing line, the race was mostly a > parade. "F1 like" means that most of the passing happens in the pits.

Dull,

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> dull, dull. > > Now that finish in the Winston Cup race at Atlanta had me standing up > yelling for the last six laps or so. > > Sunday was the unhappy reverse of what I had expected, but at least there > was one race worth watching.

Yep. I lucked out while changing channels and caught the last 14 laps of the Atlanta race. Now THERE was a finish! Was I the only misty-eyed one watching that? Anyway, I might have to do that more often in the future and tune in for the last dozen laps or so of Winston Cup races.

No offense to anyone in Mexico, but the tv coverage was really poor. Hardly any replays or onboard camera shots. There were several incedents the commentators on espn saw but which the cameras never spotted. "drinklime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UhYq6.2962$[email hidden]... > I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was soboring, > the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they > barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? > >

>I usually really enjoy cart races, but today's just blew. It was so boring, >the track was coming apart, drivers couldnt stay on the track, and they >barely used any on-board cameras.... is it just me? I don't know about suck, but Kenny Brack was doing a great impression of a hot lapper who doesn't know how to race with others around. -Tim

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:43:55 -0500, "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>It was a shame, really - the track was a bit of grip and two chicanes shy of >being decent. Unfortunately, somebody decided those two silly chicanes were >necessary (why?) - they effectively removed two of the three realistic >passing spots, and the lack of grip negated the third. > >If they revised the track for next year, it might make for a good race. As >it was, it was a major snore-fest, with the very-F1-like "most of the passes >happening in the pits".

A closer analysis will reveal that there were many passes during the race, but the TV coverage we got showed just about none. I'm used to bad directing during race broadcasts, but this one was particularly bad. -Matt S.

That was the first CART race I've ever watched. Much more passing than F1 even (from prev comments) if it wasn't as much as usual. I think the Mexican TV directors and related to the Malay's :-) and leave much to be desired. Good to see a fellow NZer, Scott Dixon, at the front in his first race for a few laps (yeah OK after a caution!). Don't know why he dropped back so many places @ the end, prob worried about fuel/tires. His missed out on some "qualifying points", anyone care to enlighten me? NG "Matthew D. Sullivan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:43:55 -0500, "Rick Baumhauer" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >It was a shame, really - the track was a bit of grip and two chicanes shyof > >being decent. Unfortunately, somebody decided those two silly chicaneswere > >necessary (why?) - they effectively removed two of the three realistic > >passing spots, and the lack of grip negated the third. > > > >If they revised the track for next year, it might make for a good race.As > >it was, it was a major snore-fest, with the very-F1-like "most of thepasses

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> >happening in the pits". > > A closer analysis will reveal that there were many passes during the > race, but the TV coverage we got showed just about none. I'm used to > bad directing during race broadcasts, but this one was particularly > bad. > > -Matt S.

"NG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wyjr6.863$[email hidden]... > That was the first CART race I've ever watched. Much more passing than F1 > even (from prev comments) if it wasn't as much as usual. I think theMexican > TV directors and related to the Malay's :-) and leave much to be desired. CART has gone through some of the same dumb motions that the FIA has done to try and limit top speeds...so we get these cars with vastly reduced Aero grip. they used to be able to throw those cars everywhere...now it's starting to resemble F1. > > Good to see a fellow NZer, Scott Dixon, at the front in his first race fora > few laps (yeah OK after a caution!). Don't know why he dropped back somany > places @ the end, prob worried about fuel/tires. His missed out on some > "qualifying points", anyone care to enlighten me? I'm a little rusty here, but the CART drivers have like two 30 minute sessions to qualify. the drivers are split up into two groups. The drivers with the least amount of points go out first...then in the next 30 minute session, the supposedly faster drivers, those with more points, get to run on a track which has lots of fresh rubber laid down from the first group. So invariably, the 2nd group times are faster than the first... So by talking about Qualifying points..that isn't a real statistic..but gives the HAVES a better chance than the HAVE-NOTS. dave henrie(Dixon looked pretty good with a light fuel load against the leaders with full tanks...when he went in for fuel and tires, thats why he fell back)

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> > NG > > > "Matthew D. Sullivan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:43:55 -0500, "Rick Baumhauer" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >It was a shame, really - the track was a bit of grip and two chicanes

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> of > > >being decent. Unfortunately, somebody decided those two silly chicanes > were > > >necessary (why?) - they effectively removed two of the three realistic > > >passing spots, and the lack of grip negated the third. > > > > > >If they revised the track for next year, it might make for a good race. > As > > >it was, it was a major snore-fest, with the very-F1-like "most of the > passes > > >happening in the pits". > > > > A closer analysis will reveal that there were many passes during the > > race, but the TV coverage we got showed just about none. I'm used to > > bad directing during race broadcasts, but this one was particularly > > bad. > > > > -Matt S. > >

"Gault" wrote Was I the only misty-eyed one watching that? > Not by a long shot. When I saw Harvick's three fingers out the window waving to the crowd during his backward victory lap, I went from screaming and clapping to crying as fast as I can imagine possible, I totally lost it. If only it had been Harvick and Dale Jr racing towards the line it would have been perfect. So sad still... -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----