Greatest race comeback ?

What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down at the ring in the 60's ?

he managed to get a lap back when the pace car came out ;-) -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ? >I believe you may be referring to Jim Clark's charge at Monza in 1967. Clark had to pit to have a punctured tire replaced, and that put him a lap down. He then charged through the field, breaking the lap record more than once. Clark took the lead and looked untouchable, until he ran out of fuel on the last lap. Clark came in third, with Surtees taking the win and Brabham in second. To this day, many consider this to be Clark's best race ever. --Mike

Prost started from the pits in 87 or 88 at Spa and finished 2nd, that was something to do in "modern" age technology, I think they didn't have fuel stops then, just tires... Anyway, it was a nice race to watch. "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: jnqr6.2981$[email hidden]...

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> he managed to get a lap back when the pace car came out ;-) > > -- > > > Colin > ICQ 25485061 > Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > > at the ring in the 60's ? > >

Ricky Rudd, Martinsville '98. Allthough it really wasn't a comeback, the conditions he was racing under sure suggest he was fighting something back. Nick Mike Dietz wrote: > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

Bill Elliot lost two laps at Daytona or Talladega once. He got his two laps back and went on to win without any caution flags. On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:46:21 GMT, "Careful with that axe, Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ricky Rudd, Martinsville '98. Allthough it really wasn't a comeback, the >conditions he was racing under sure suggest he was fighting something >back. > >Nick > >Mike Dietz wrote: > >> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >> thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >> at the ring in the 60's ? >

> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ? What about Barrichello at Hockenheim last year? He started 18th on the grid and ended up winning the race, albeit with a combination of extreme good fortune (loony on the track deprived Mclaren of a 25-second lead, then it started raining on one half of the track but not the other, and Mclaren made a bad decision on the tyres). I still think it's pretty amazing to come from that far back in F1 to win the race!

I think Juan Manuel Fangio did somethig like that at Nurnburg ring once, although the details escape me rigt now. Aah, a quick search on www.google.com revealed this: (taken from http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/fangio_bio.htm) In 1957 Juan-Manuel Fangio won one of his most famous races at the German Grand Prix. Fangio both loved and was in awe of the Nurburgring circuit but driving an under powered Maserati he managed to come from behind and pass the two leading Ferraris. Passing Hawthorn by "straight lining" one of the final curves he amazed his rivals with his virtuosity. And another description of that race: (taken from http://www.pinasx.com/drivers/fangio/) He bolted Ferrari in 1957 to rejoin Maserati, winning a 5th title with such sublime performances as the German GP at the 187-turn N�rburgring ( pictured above ) where Fangio lost 56 seconds and the lead in a pit stop, but returned to win by letting loose the most spectacular pursuit of his life, bettering the track record for the 14.2 mile Nordeschlifer ("North Ring") by an amazing 12 seconds on three consecutive laps. Fangio said, "I believe that on that day in 1957 I finally managed to master the N�rburgring, making those leaps in the dark on those curves where I had never before had the courage to push things so far." Lars G. On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:16:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Mike Dietz) wrote: >What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >at the ring in the 60's ?

"Track Talk's" Chris Cosby mentioned last nite something about a driver wining a race many laps ahead of the field. (correct me if I'm wrong) I think he said the driver was quite a bit behind at one point. BTW: you are supporting a Sim racer by listening to his show, right? I like his concept of a talk show about autoracing and will continue to support him by listening in. Not to mention I've learned a few things in the racing world by doing so. I wish it was a show specifically and only about Sim racing, but being a show about Real (hate that "R" word;-) racing and has talked about Sim racing makes for a very informative mix. I was quite surprised when he was talking to the wives of a couple of Sim racers last night by the support they give their husbands for Sim racing. (damned MacGreger is lucky as hell in more ways then one ;-). I was also interested in listening to the Sim racer that called in and talked about his real racing he did at Daytona. Mike Dietz wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >at the ring in the 60's ?

Your thinking of Fangio , I believe afterwards he said he didn't think he could ever drive to that intensity again , that it cost him too much. Regards , John See you at the 'Ring Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

92' Sears Point. Ernie Irvan on the pole but gets the black flag at start of race for jumping. Irvan goes on to pass the field (remember this is sears in a stock car) and goes on for the win. Mitch "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9csr6.249339$[email hidden]... > "Track Talk's" Chris Cosby mentioned last nite something about adriver > wining a race many laps ahead of the field. (correct me if I'm wrong) I > think he said the driver was quite a bit behind at one point. BTW: youare > supporting a Sim racer by listening to his show, right? > > I like his concept of a talk show about autoracing and will continueto > support him by listening in. Not to mention I've learned a few things in > the racing world by doing so. I wish it was a show specifically and only > about Sim racing, but being a show about Real (hate that "R" word;-)racing > and has talked about Sim racing makes for a very informative mix. I was > quite surprised when he was talking to the wives of a couple of Sim racers > last night by the support they give their husbands for Sim racing.(damned > MacGreger is lucky as hell in more ways then one ;-). I was alsointerested

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> in listening to the Sim racer that called in and talked about his real > racing he did at Daytona. > > Mike Dietz wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > >thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > >at the ring in the 60's ? > > >

"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9csr6.249339$[email hidden]... > "Track Talk's" Chris Cosby mentioned last nite something about adriver > wining a race many laps ahead of the field. (correct me if I'm wrong) I > think he said the driver was quite a bit behind at one point. BTW: youare > supporting a Sim racer by listening to his show, right? > > I like his concept of a talk show about autoracing and will continueto > support him by listening in. Not to mention I've learned a few things in > the racing world by doing so. I wish it was a show specifically and only > about Sim racing, but being a show about Real (hate that "R" word;-)racing > and has talked about Sim racing makes for a very informative mix. I was > quite surprised when he was talking to the wives of a couple of Sim racers > last night by the support they give their husbands for Sim racing.(damned > MacGreger is lucky as hell in more ways then one ;-). You're not kidding - if my other half could banish me to a shed to play GPL, I think she would! I basically only get to play when she's out! Somehow "real" racing seems to have more sex-appeal! ;-)

DE, at I think, Daytona when he did that 360 degree spin, never touched a thing, and proceeded to win the race. It might have been Talladega. Either way, it was masterful. -Larry "Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

One other... Michael Waltrip at Bristol. The fact that he even got in the car for that race that weekend after absolutely DISENTIGRATING his original car in practice. This is the one where he hit that open-gap in the wall coming out of either turn 2 or 4 (I forget which) and the car when from 120mph to 0mph in less than a second. That is the most incredible wreck I've ever seen. I believe that car, or at least it's pile of bite-sized pieces, is on display at the track. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:E6tr6.99122$[email hidden]...

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> DE, at I think, Daytona when he did that 360 degree spin, never touched a > thing, and proceeded to win the race. > > It might have been Talladega. > > Either way, it was masterful. > > -Larry > > "Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > > at the ring in the 60's ? > >

Clark at Monza in 1967 and/or Fangio at the Nurburgring in '57 ed_ Mike Dietz wrote: > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

Where can i listen to track talk? is it on internet radio? Neil Raine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jOsr6.17498$[email hidden]...

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> "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9csr6.249339$[email hidden]... > > "Track Talk's" Chris Cosby mentioned last nite something about a > driver > > wining a race many laps ahead of the field. (correct me if I'm wrong) I > > think he said the driver was quite a bit behind at one point. BTW: you > are > > supporting a Sim racer by listening to his show, right? > > > > I like his concept of a talk show about autoracing and will continue > to > > support him by listening in. Not to mention I've learned a few things

in > > the racing world by doing so. I wish it was a show specifically andonly > > about Sim racing, but being a show about Real (hate that "R" word;-) > racing > > and has talked about Sim racing makes for a very informative mix. I was > > quite surprised when he was talking to the wives of a couple of Simracers > > last night by the support they give their husbands for Sim racing. > (damned > > MacGreger is lucky as hell in more ways then one ;-). > > You're not kidding - if my other half could banish me to a shed to playGPL,

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> I think she would! > > I basically only get to play when she's out! > > Somehow "real" racing seems to have more sex-appeal! ;-) > > > >

Not to mention McLaren screwing race leader Coulthard out of a pit stop. Nick Neil Raine wrote:

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> > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > > at the ring in the 60's ? > > What about Barrichello at Hockenheim last year? > > He started 18th on the grid and ended up winning the race, albeit with a > combination of extreme good fortune (loony on the track deprived Mclaren of > a 25-second lead, then it started raining on one half of the track but not > the other, and Mclaren made a bad decision on the tyres). > > I still think it's pretty amazing to come from that far back in F1 to win > the race!

1995 - Jacques became the youngest ever IndyCar Champion at 24 years old. He also won the Indianapolis 500 after being given a two lap penalty for passing the pace car under a full course yellow (ie. no overtaking) and became the first person ever to win the 500 after completing 505 miles. "Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ?

One of the greatest race: in 1935 Tazio Nuvolari, driving an obsolete Alfa, won a race at the Nurburgring, in a car far inferior to the Mercedes of the Germans. (about Nuvolari: http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/nuvo_bio.htm ) Stefano

Why does "semi" sound familiar? Any case... Chris Cosby started an Internet based radio talk show two weeks or so ago. He says he wants to focus on, er.., "real" racing, But will entertain Sim racing if someone calls in and changes the subject to it. He's done a great job so far and just because he's a fellow Sim driver and a Online racing league director, He deserves all the support from us he can gather. er.. ok, actually I want, as do many others want, him to talk as much as possible about Sim racing. Unfortunately, as he put it, there's not much to talk about in Sim racing to fill a show three times a week". So I figure we'll let him talk about real racing once in a while to<g> His show airs Mon, Wed, and Fri, at 7:30pm EST (4:30pm MST(?)). Check out http://www.simracingmag.com/ for more information about "Track Talk". Semi wrote in message <98ltoe$gjq$[email hidden]>...

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>Where can i listen to track talk? is it on internet radio? > > >Neil Raine <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:jOsr6.17498$[email hidden]... >> "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:9csr6.249339$[email hidden]... >> > "Track Talk's" Chris Cosby mentioned last nite something about a >> driver >> > wining a race many laps ahead of the field. (correct me if I'm wrong) I >> > think he said the driver was quite a bit behind at one point. BTW: you >> are >> > supporting a Sim racer by listening to his show, right? >> > >> > I like his concept of a talk show about autoracing and will

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>> to >> > support him by listening in. Not to mention I've learned a few things >in >> > the racing world by doing so. I wish it was a show specifically and >only >> > about Sim racing, but being a show about Real (hate that "R" word;-) >> racing >> > and has talked about Sim racing makes for a very informative mix. I

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>> > quite surprised when he was talking to the wives of a couple of Sim >racers >> > last night by the support they give their husbands for Sim racing. >> (damned >> > MacGreger is lucky as hell in more ways then one ;-). >> >> You're not kidding - if my other half could banish me to a shed to play >GPL, >> I think she would! >> >> I basically only get to play when she's out! >> >> Somehow "real" racing seems to have more sex-appeal! ;-) >> >> >> >> > >

http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk/fangio.html -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends nobody <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | I think Juan Manuel Fangio did somethig like that at Nurnburg ring | once, although the details escape me rigt now. | | Aah, a quick search on www.google.com revealed this: | | (taken from http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/fangio_bio.htm) | In 1957 Juan-Manuel Fangio won one of his most famous races at the | German Grand Prix. Fangio both loved and was in awe of the Nurburgring | circuit but driving an under powered Maserati he managed to come from | behind and pass the two leading Ferraris. Passing Hawthorn by | "straight lining" one of the final curves he amazed his rivals with | his virtuosity. | | And another description of that race: | (taken from http://www.pinasx.com/drivers/fangio/) | | He bolted Ferrari in 1957 to rejoin Maserati, winning a 5th title with | such sublime performances as the German GP at the 187-turn N�rburgring | ( pictured above ) where Fangio lost 56 seconds and the lead in a pit | stop, but returned to win by letting loose the most spectacular | pursuit of his life, bettering the track record for the 14.2 mile | Nordeschlifer ("North Ring") by an amazing 12 seconds on three | consecutive laps. Fangio said, "I believe that on that day in 1957 I | finally managed to master the N�rburgring, making those leaps in the | dark on those curves where I had never before had the courage to push | things so far." | | Lars G. | | On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:16:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Mike Dietz) | wrote: | | >What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I | >thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down | >at the ring in the 60's ? |

>"Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ? Jacques Villeneuve was two laps down at a moment of the race during the last "REAL" Indianapolis 500. He went on to win. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yeah, I'd have to agree that was pretty amazing. I think one of his laps was yellow assisted, but he got the other one back on the track. Really amazing work and well deserved victory. -John On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:24:16 -0500, "jaf" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>1995 - Jacques became the youngest ever IndyCar Champion at 24 years old. He >also won the Indianapolis 500 after being given a two lap penalty for >passing the pace car under a full course yellow (ie. no overtaking) and >became the first person ever to win the 500 after completing 505 miles. > >"Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >> thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >> at the ring in the 60's ? >

I saw it in the museum at Talladega. Unbelieveable! On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:04:31 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>One other... > >Michael Waltrip at Bristol. The fact that he even got in the car for that >race that weekend after absolutely DISENTIGRATING his original car in >practice. > >This is the one where he hit that open-gap in the wall coming out of either >turn 2 or 4 (I forget which) and the car when from 120mph to 0mph in less >than a second. > >That is the most incredible wreck I've ever seen. > >I believe that car, or at least it's pile of bite-sized pieces, is on >display at the track. > >-Larry > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:E6tr6.99122$[email hidden]... >> DE, at I think, Daytona when he did that 360 degree spin, never touched a >> thing, and proceeded to win the race. >> >> It might have been Talladega. >> >> Either way, it was masterful. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >> > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >> > at the ring in the 60's ? >> >> > >

How did he make up 2 laps without caution flags? "POWER POST 2000" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Bill Elliot lost two laps at Daytona or Talladega once. He got his > two laps back and went on to win without any caution flags. > > > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:46:21 GMT, "Careful with that axe, Nick" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Ricky Rudd, Martinsville '98. Allthough it really wasn't a comeback, the > >conditions he was racing under sure suggest he was fighting something > >back. > > > >Nick > > > >Mike Dietz wrote: > > > >> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > >> thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > >> at the ring in the 60's ? > > >

He was FAST that day. I think it was a year or two before restrictor plates (86 or 87). Nobody could touch him on the big tracks back then. On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:33:19 GMT, "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>How did he make up 2 laps without caution flags? >"POWER POST 2000" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Bill Elliot lost two laps at Daytona or Talladega once. He got his >> two laps back and went on to win without any caution flags. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:46:21 GMT, "Careful with that axe, Nick" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Ricky Rudd, Martinsville '98. Allthough it really wasn't a comeback, the >> >conditions he was racing under sure suggest he was fighting something >> >back. >> > >> >Nick >> > >> >Mike Dietz wrote: >> > >> >> What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I >> >> thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down >> >> at the ring in the 60's ? >> > >> > >

On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:54:46 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Jacques Villeneuve was two laps down at a moment of the race during the last >"REAL" Indianapolis 500. He went on to win. Some thoughts... Jacques Villeneuves Indy 505 is excellent. Mind you, his performance at Elkhart Lake the same season was pretty good to beat the Penske's. It wasn't really a comeback, more like a "try and keep up til the end and win" kind of race. Also his performance at Laguna Seca to clinch the title was a see-saw affair with puncture and spin, I think. I remember it was a battle for him to get the points to stay in front of Al Unser Jr. I'm not a huge Cart fan so hopefully someone else (with a better memory) could expand on those performances. In Formula one, two performances at Kyalami come to mind. Prost has a puncture in the Turbo Renault. He gets lapped by his teammate (either Arnoux or Jabouille, I forget which). He comes back to unlap himself and win the race. Details elude me. And then another one I vaguely recall is Niki Lauda coming back and winning the race & championship from Prost. Again details elude me, but it was pretty scary as a Prost fan to watch Lauda hunt the top6 down one by one. Must add. Renault where the only team with turbos and were way ahead of the competition in performance. Prost and Niki Lauda were team-mates at Maclaren. I think Niki won the world championship by half a point, due to technicalities regarding the incomplete Monaco race that year. oh oh. Almost forgot. If anybody can describe the mayhem that occurred at Monaco the year Ricardo Patresa won it, please remind us all. I have a vague recollection of complete and utter chaos of drivers inheriting the lead and retiring on the last lap due to fuel problems, etc. Regards all, Ian PS! please don't rag me for my lousy uh, um, err what was I, oh MEMORY.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:22:33 GMT, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote: > His show airs Mon, Wed, and Fri, at 7:30pm EST (4:30pm MST(?)). Check >out http://www.simracingmag.com/ for more information about "Track Talk". I listened to the show a couple of times, good fun, but it's broadcasted here in Europe from 1:30-2:30 AM.. Andre

Yes, but that's just one car out of 17. -Gregor "Careful with that axe, Nick" wrote: > > Not to mention McLaren screwing race leader Coulthard out of a pit stop. > > Nick >

Yeah not to mention also that A spectator walked onto the track bring out a safety car to help him! Allan Harrison. Neil Raine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M%rr6.17471$[email hidden]...

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> > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > > at the ring in the 60's ? > > What about Barrichello at Hockenheim last year? > > He started 18th on the grid and ended up winning the race, albeit with a > combination of extreme good fortune (loony on the track deprived Mclaren

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> a 25-second lead, then it started raining on one half of the track but not > the other, and Mclaren made a bad decision on the tyres). > > I still think it's pretty amazing to come from that far back in F1 to win > the race! > > > >

"Mike Dietz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What in your opinion is the greatest race comeback of all time . I > thought I read somewhere where a driver came back from a lap or 2 down > at the ring in the 60's ? Punted at the first corner at Le Mans, Dave Henrie's 1968 Ford GT40 was horribly damaged. He got out...pulled out a toolbox and began repairs even as the field roared by again and again. After spending hours rebuilding and repainting his steed Dave then set off in pursuit...with no time to change drivers or tires Dave kept at for the entire 24 hours, nipping the leaders at the line as they cruised in Formation thinking the race was theirs. Dave then went to the podium to shake the Dom Perrignon when his alarm went off.....

Fangio, Nurburgring, 1957

Greatest comeback I have been witness to is Ernie Irvan returning to racing (and winning) after a crash that by all rights should have killed him. I must also give him credit for realizing that there are things more important than racing and when he had a second major crash at the same track, he decided that he was being given a warning sign and got out of the car. That was definitely a bit of bravery. Facing the unknown of being an ex-driver after driving darn near all his life.

Ahhh.. Good one! I wasn't even thinking about that type of "comeback" when I read that before, but that's a great example! On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:35:19 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Greatest comeback I have been witness to is Ernie Irvan returning to racing (and >winning) after a crash that by all rights should have killed him. > >I must also give him credit for realizing that there are things more important >than racing and when he had a second major crash at the same track, he decided >that he was being given a warning sign and got out of the car. That was >definitely a bit of bravery. Facing the unknown of being an ex-driver after >driving darn near all his life. > > >

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In article <E6tr6.99122$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >DE, at I think, Daytona when he did that 360 degree spin, never touched a >thing, and proceeded to win the race. > >It might have been Talladega. > >Either way, it was masterful. You sure you're not thinking about Danny Sullivan at Indy in 1985? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <LJqr6.72$[email hidden]>, "Txl" <[email hidden]> writes: >Prost started from the pits in 87 or 88 at Spa and finished 2nd, that was >something to do in "modern" age technology, I think they didn't have fuel >stops then, just tires... > >Anyway, it was a nice race to watch. Scott Goodyear, at Indy? He started last, and finished second to Al Jr. by the thinnest of margins...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.