N4 online problems! WTF?!

Guys, Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online player market, I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online with Multi-player!! With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what otherwise should be a rather easy process! Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online arena?! Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play online?! What happened to just placing spam ads on the server from ends to meet development costs?! What exactly did the wopping fifty bucks get me when I bought this sim?!! The problem I am having now is that I cannot access any server online @ Sierra that doesnt not end without timing out and "closing channel" I simply cannot hook up to ANY server!! I have NO firewall I have selected the correct IP to connect with in the Sierra login pop-up. I have "select different connection(last check box)" in my configuration settings and IP/TCP I can race one on one multiplayer games, host and join just not on the dedicated servers @ Sierra. So what gives? All I recieve when trying to connect to any server @ Sierra hosting a race is: Timed out! Closing channel"!! Ive got a legal version of the sim, Im signed up and can access the servers and see people chatting, ping rates, server names etc, It simply closes the channel when trying to join a hosted race. Ive tried joining in "Setup", "practice" mode etc. I've patched the games EXE with patch 1001, but when I do that, I cant access the Sierra servers at all because it gives me a error window that tells me I must have a different version of the game?!! No shit!! The freagin EXE has been replaced!! WTF is the patch good for anyway?!! You cant play online with it!! I placed the original EXE back in. You know, Im not a complete idiot when it comes to computer, and I can only wonder what that newbie chump that just got a new Gightz computer with kick ass Gforce and N4 is going through trying to connect online!! I mean it's seems you almost have to be a computer scientist to figure out how to play nascar online!!! Can I get some help?! Ive heard the same problems from different sources, but no wise guy had pinned it. Why can't I just buy a game, click here, click there, and play online?!! I mean its the year 2001 for fucking Christ's sake!! How will we ever have flying cars when we can't even easily communicate on a global network?!! Why do I have to access different, third party websites for "how tos", "patches", updates, fixes, or "corrections" or other support that should have been addressed or tested by the manufacture that sold me the product!! Did I pay 50 bucks to "beta" test?!!!! The fuck I did!!! -DG-

Take it back. You sound as if you do not possess the brain power or patience to race offline, let alone online. Do us all a favor and take it back! Wayne "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online playermarket,

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> I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 > that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online > with Multi-player!! > > With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what otherwise > should be a rather easy process! > > Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online > arena?! > Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play > online?! > > What happened to just placing spam ads on the server from ends to meet > development costs?! > What exactly did the wopping fifty bucks get me when I bought this sim?!! > > > The problem I am having now is that I cannot access any server online @ > Sierra that doesnt not end without timing out and "closing channel" > I simply cannot hook up to ANY server!! > > I have NO firewall > I have selected the correct IP to connect with in the Sierra login pop-up. > I have "select different connection(last check box)" in my configuration > settings and IP/TCP > I can race one on one multiplayer games, host and join just not on the > dedicated servers @ Sierra. > > So what gives? > All I recieve when trying to connect to any server @ Sierra hosting a race > is: Timed out! Closing channel"!! > > Ive got a legal version of the sim, Im signed up and can access the

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> and see people chatting, ping rates, server names etc, > It simply closes the channel when trying to join a hosted race. Ive tried > joining in "Setup", "practice" mode etc. > > I've patched the games EXE with patch 1001, but when I do that, I cant > access the Sierra servers at all because it gives me a error window that > tells me I must have a different version of the game?!! No shit!! The > freagin EXE has been replaced!! > > WTF is the patch good for anyway?!! You cant play online with it!! > I placed the original EXE back in. > > You know, Im not a complete idiot when it comes to computer, and I can

only > wonder what that newbie chump that just got a new Gightz computer withkick

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> ass Gforce and N4 is going through trying to connect online!! I mean it's > seems you almost have to be a computer scientist > to figure out how to play nascar online!!! > > Can I get some help?! Ive heard the same problems from different sources, > but no wise guy had pinned it. > > Why can't I just buy a game, click here, click there, and play online?!!

I > mean its the year 2001 for fucking Christ's sake!! How will we ever have > flying cars when we can't even easily communicate on a global network?!! > > Why do I have to access different, third party websites for "how tos", > "patches", updates, fixes, or "corrections" or other support that should > have been addressed or tested by the manufacture that sold me theproduct!!

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> > Did I pay 50 bucks to "beta" test?!!!! > > The fuck I did!!! > > -DG- > > > > > > > >

You eat with that mouth? Return return return the game, go get Quake Racing... 8-) Icer

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>On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:45:45 GMT, "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote: >Guys, > >Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online player market, >I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 >that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online >with Multi-player!! > >With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what otherwise >should be a rather easy process! > >Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online >arena?! >Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play >online?! > >What happened to just placing spam ads on the server from ends to meet >development costs?! >What exactly did the wopping fifty bucks get me when I bought this sim?!! > > >The problem I am having now is that I cannot access any server online @ >Sierra that doesnt not end without timing out and "closing channel" >I simply cannot hook up to ANY server!! > >I have NO firewall >I have selected the correct IP to connect with in the Sierra login pop-up. >I have "select different connection(last check box)" in my configuration >settings and IP/TCP >I can race one on one multiplayer games, host and join just not on the >dedicated servers @ Sierra. > >So what gives? >All I recieve when trying to connect to any server @ Sierra hosting a race >is: Timed out! Closing channel"!! > >Ive got a legal version of the sim, Im signed up and can access the servers >and see people chatting, ping rates, server names etc, >It simply closes the channel when trying to join a hosted race. Ive tried >joining in "Setup", "practice" mode etc. > >I've patched the games EXE with patch 1001, but when I do that, I cant >access the Sierra servers at all because it gives me a error window that >tells me I must have a different version of the game?!! No shit!! The >freagin EXE has been replaced!! > >WTF is the patch good for anyway?!! You cant play online with it!! >I placed the original EXE back in. > >You know, Im not a complete idiot when it comes to computer, and I can only >wonder what that newbie chump that just got a new Gightz computer with kick >ass Gforce and N4 is going through trying to connect online!! I mean it's >seems you almost have to be a computer scientist >to figure out how to play nascar online!!! > >Can I get some help?! Ive heard the same problems from different sources, >but no wise guy had pinned it. > >Why can't I just buy a game, click here, click there, and play online?!! I >mean its the year 2001 for fucking Christ's sake!! How will we ever have >flying cars when we can't even easily communicate on a global network?!! > >Why do I have to access different, third party websites for "how tos", >"patches", updates, fixes, or "corrections" or other support that should >have been addressed or tested by the manufacture that sold me the product!! > >Did I pay 50 bucks to "beta" test?!!!! > >The fuck I did!!! > >-DG- > > > > > > >

First the registration procedure is very similar to that of N3. Hey if Sierra wants to make a buck or two off my name, more power to them. The matching services they provide are well worth the cost. 2nd, there was a quick patch released for those having trouble connecting when they have more than one internet device...i.e. cable or dsl users...try that ..should be available at papy.com dave henrie "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online playermarket,

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> I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 > that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online > with Multi-player!! > > With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what otherwise > should be a rather easy process! > > Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online > arena?! > Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play > online?! > > What happened to just placing spam ads on the server from ends to meet > development costs?! > What exactly did the wopping fifty bucks get me when I bought this sim?!! > > > The problem I am having now is that I cannot access any server online @ > Sierra that doesnt not end without timing out and "closing channel" > I simply cannot hook up to ANY server!! > > I have NO firewall > I have selected the correct IP to connect with in the Sierra login pop-up. > I have "select different connection(last check box)" in my configuration > settings and IP/TCP > I can race one on one multiplayer games, host and join just not on the > dedicated servers @ Sierra. > > So what gives? > All I recieve when trying to connect to any server @ Sierra hosting a race > is: Timed out! Closing channel"!! > > Ive got a legal version of the sim, Im signed up and can access the

servers

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> and see people chatting, ping rates, server names etc, > It simply closes the channel when trying to join a hosted race. Ive tried > joining in "Setup", "practice" mode etc. > > I've patched the games EXE with patch 1001, but when I do that, I cant > access the Sierra servers at all because it gives me a error window that > tells me I must have a different version of the game?!! No shit!! The > freagin EXE has been replaced!! > > WTF is the patch good for anyway?!! You cant play online with it!! > I placed the original EXE back in. > > You know, Im not a complete idiot when it comes to computer, and I can

only > wonder what that newbie chump that just got a new Gightz computer withkick

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> ass Gforce and N4 is going through trying to connect online!! I mean it's > seems you almost have to be a computer scientist > to figure out how to play nascar online!!! > > Can I get some help?! Ive heard the same problems from different sources, > but no wise guy had pinned it. > > Why can't I just buy a game, click here, click there, and play online?!!

I > mean its the year 2001 for fucking Christ's sake!! How will we ever have > flying cars when we can't even easily communicate on a global network?!! > > Why do I have to access different, third party websites for "how tos", > "patches", updates, fixes, or "corrections" or other support that should > have been addressed or tested by the manufacture that sold me theproduct!!

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> > Did I pay 50 bucks to "beta" test?!!!! > > The fuck I did!!! > > -DG- > > > > > > > >

"David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online playermarket,

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> I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 > that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online > with Multi-player!! > > With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what otherwise > should be a rather easy process! > > Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online > arena?!

Because it is their matching servers? I personally like the fact I have to register to play online through the service. > Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play > online?! Same as above > > What happened to just placing spam ads on the server from ends to meet > development costs?! Spam - yuk!!! It's not like were paying a monthly fee here. > What exactly did the wopping fifty bucks get me when I bought this sim?!! Imho, a pretty awesome Nascar simulator. > The problem I am having now is that I cannot access any server online @ > Sierra that doesnt not end without timing out and "closing channel" > I simply cannot hook up to ANY server!! Ok, obviously there is a problem here. Are you certain your not trying to join races that have already progressed to qualifying and beyond?

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> > I have NO firewall > I have selected the correct IP to connect with in the Sierra login pop-up. > I have "select different connection(last check box)" in my configuration > settings and IP/TCP > I can race one on one multiplayer games, host and join just not on the > dedicated servers @ Sierra. > > So what gives? > All I recieve when trying to connect to any server @ Sierra hosting a race > is: Timed out! Closing channel"!!

Have you tried direct connecting to an ip address rather than going through Sierra? > > Ive got a legal version of the sim, Im signed up and can access theservers > and see people chatting, ping rates, server names etc, > It simply closes the channel when trying to join a hosted race. Ive tried > joining in "Setup", "practice" mode etc. You have cable modem by chance? If so, in mulitplayer setup try setting it to find your ip address in another way.

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> > I've patched the games EXE with patch 1001, but when I do that, I cant > access the Sierra servers at all because it gives me a error window that > tells me I must have a different version of the game?!! No shit!! The > freagin EXE has been replaced!! > > WTF is the patch good for anyway?!! You cant play online with it!! > I placed the original EXE back in. > > You know, Im not a complete idiot when it comes to computer, and I can

only > wonder what that newbie chump that just got a new Gightz computer withkick > ass Gforce and N4 is going through trying to connect online!! I mean it's > seems you almost have to be a computer scientist > to figure out how to play nascar online!!! Many, many folks are connecting with no problems. Just got to identify what yours is . > > Can I get some help?! Ive heard the same problems from different sources, > but no wise guy had pinned it. Hmm, sometimes gotta be patient. I am sure many here can offer you some assistance. > > Why can't I just buy a game, click here, click there, and play online?!!I > mean its the year 2001 for f<snip> Christ's sake!! How will we ever have > flying cars when we can't even easily communicate on a global network?!! Yikes, easy there, rough language with the good Lord's name. Patience man, folks will help. > > Why do I have to access different, third party websites for "how tos", > "patches", updates, fixes, or "corrections" or other support that should > have been addressed or tested by the manufacture that sold me theproduct!! > > Did I pay 50 bucks to "beta" test?!!!! > > The fuck I did!!! > > -DG- Keep in mind, Sierra does have a money back guarentee. Or, let folks try to help you overcome these issues. Don Burnette

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> >"David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message >news:ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]... >> Guys, >> >> Even though Papy is well known for their talent in the online player >market, >> I still have not bought one version of Nascar 1, 2, 3, or 4 >> that wasnt some kinda major fucking ordeal to get working properly online >> with Multi-player!! >> >> With N4, the politics have made it even more complicated to what

otherwise

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>> should be a rather easy process! >Many, many folks are connecting with no problems. Just got to identify what >yours is .

man, and I had a good buzz going too, shit! Man you guys are right! You see how much I love this SIM? I woulda paid a hundred bucks for it and I'd pay to race online. However, I can't race online because of some technical problem so I try every angle of attack upon Papy. That just wasnt right!...sorry guys,..just goes to show how much I love Nascar! ...sorry, does anybody think heat sucks? -DG-

man, and I had a good buzz going too, shit! Man you guys are right! You see how much I love this SIM? I woulda paid a hundred bucks for it and I'd pay to race online. However, I can't race online because of some technical problem so I try every angle of attack upon Papy. That just wasnt right!...sorry guys,..just goes to show how much I love Nascar online! ...sorry, does anybody think heat sucks? -DG- RIP#3

Yo.......put down the bong....... David Gary wrote in message ...

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> > > >man, and I had a good buzz going too, shit! > >Man you guys are right! You see how much I love this SIM? I woulda paid a >hundred bucks for it and I'd pay to race online. However, I can't race >online because of some technical problem so I try every angle of attack

upon

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>Papy. That just wasnt right!...sorry guys,..just goes to show how much I >love Nascar online! > > >...sorry, > > >does anybody think heat sucks? > >-DG- > >RIP#3 > > >

In article <ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]>, "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> writes: >Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online >arena?! >Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play >online?! I'll take a shot at this. Aren't stats kept on people who race? Laps run, laps per incident, finished, etc.? You have to have a driver to associate all those stats with. As far as your difficulty connecting, I can't help you. I don't have the game yet. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>In article <ZLQr6.976$[email hidden]>, "David Gary" ><dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> writes: > >>Question, Why do I have to "register" just to play in a "free" online >>arena?! I suspect so that they know you BOUGHT the game???? >>Question, how come I have to type in a password and login name to play >>online?! > How would you like to log into a race and find that everyone hated your guts because some lamer used your ID in a race and pissed everyone off by trashing the event??? The other password of course is so that groups can host events with "qualified drivers." (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)