Using a Pentium 4 with NASCAR Racing 4

Haven't seen many posts on using a Pentium 4 with NASCAR 4, so here is one. I have Pentium 4 1.4 GHz setup on an Asus P4T motherboard (Enlight 7327A4Z case for anyone interested). VisionTek GeForce2 Ultra AGP card. 128MB of RAM (upgrading to 384 soon as I can find some decent prices and availablity) I had been running N4 with a P3-650, 192MB of RAM, Viper 770 Ultra 32MB AGP... The frame rates are pretty decent when I tested at Daytona in 800x600x32 in direct3d on the P4 system. I think more important than the framerates (75 fps going into turn 1, 40s in the front stretch area) is the fluidness of the controls versus when I was running on the P3-650. Everything just worked smoother, overall... I had all the reflections and stuff on, dirt, debris, etc. default mirror details, 42 cars drawn ahead, default behind. car detail on medium (detail on high wasn't too bad of a hit though with 26 cars on the track, which is the only time I tested that setting). I also ran 1024x768x32 and it was pretty much the same as 800x600x32, maybe a tad slower in frame rates, but very playable and very fluid. with a full 42 field and the graphics loaded up, Lowe's and Bristol were a little bit jumpy, but that was about it. Martinsville was awesome, except I can't seem to run more than 2-3 laps with a full field before everyone starts crashing... On to OpenGL. I found OpenGL 800x600x32 to produce much higher frame rates and I thought everything was better overall. I haven't tried other OpenGL modes yet. I just wanted to report on how nice N4 does play with the Pentium 4 and GeForce2 setup. Oh yeah, the OS is Windows 2000 Professional. I'm going to try it in WinMEe, which is what I ran my P3-650 on for N4... if I find different numbers I'll let everyone know. If anyone has any specific questions, go for it. I'm no "expert" but I'm willing to help out anyone with a question. And please don't slam me for having a P4... somebody went nuts on Don Burnette and that was kind of stupid I think. I spend my money how I see fit, just like everyone else. I happen to love racing and it's cheaper to buy a P4 setup than it is to buy a couple of sets of tires for a real late model stock car :) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

I"m not gonna slam you for having a P4. I might be just a weeeeeee bit jealous though. <grin> -Cheers!

Well, my wife got the P3-650 as bribery :) She had a P166, so it was time for an upgrade... now watch, someone is going to slam me cuz I have 2 computers... (you can't win!) On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:27:49 -0700, "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I"m not gonna slam you for having a P4. I might be just a weeeeeee bit >jealous though. <grin> > >-Cheers! > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Well, my wife got the P3-650 as *** :) She had a P166, so it was time for an upgrade... now watch, someone is going to slam me cuz I have 2 computers... (you can't win!) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Don't worry I have the same (2 computers). It was the only way to get my wife off my "Game" machine. ;-) I use the same bribery/excuse for upgrading too. "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Well, my wife got the P3-650 as bribery :) She had a P166, so it was > time for an upgrade... now watch, someone is going to slam me cuz I > have 2 computers... (you can't win!) > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:27:49 -0700, "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I"m not gonna slam you for having a P4. I might be just a weeeeeee bit > >jealous though. <grin> > > > >-Cheers! > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

sportman wrote: > > Don't worry I have the same (2 computers). It was the only way to get my > wife off my "Game" machine. ;-) I use the same bribery/excuse for upgrading > too. We've got 4 here. I've got the PIII850@910, the kids have a Celeron466 & a Celeron 300a, and the wife has an old P133. I see another upgrade in my future! <g> -- Fester

I don't really have a problem with the P4. I DO have a problem with RAMBUS and Intel Chipsets, though. Price is a big consideration as well. -Larry "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Haven't seen many posts on using a Pentium 4 with NASCAR 4, so here is > one. > > I have Pentium 4 1.4 GHz setup on an Asus P4T motherboard (Enlight > 7327A4Z case for anyone interested). VisionTek GeForce2 Ultra AGP > card. 128MB of RAM (upgrading to 384 soon as I can find some decent > prices and availablity) > > I had been running N4 with a P3-650, 192MB of RAM, Viper 770 Ultra > 32MB AGP... > > The frame rates are pretty decent when I tested at Daytona in > 800x600x32 in direct3d on the P4 system. I think more important than > the framerates (75 fps going into turn 1, 40s in the front stretch > area) is the fluidness of the controls versus when I was running on > the P3-650. Everything just worked smoother, overall... > > I had all the reflections and stuff on, dirt, debris, etc. default > mirror details, 42 cars drawn ahead, default behind. car detail on > medium (detail on high wasn't too bad of a hit though with 26 cars on > the track, which is the only time I tested that setting). > > I also ran 1024x768x32 and it was pretty much the same as 800x600x32, > maybe a tad slower in frame rates, but very playable and very fluid. > > with a full 42 field and the graphics loaded up, Lowe's and Bristol > were a little bit jumpy, but that was about it. Martinsville was > awesome, except I can't seem to run more than 2-3 laps with a full > field before everyone starts crashing... > > On to OpenGL. I found OpenGL 800x600x32 to produce much higher frame > rates and I thought everything was better overall. I haven't tried > other OpenGL modes yet. I just wanted to report on how nice N4 does > play with the Pentium 4 and GeForce2 setup. > > Oh yeah, the OS is Windows 2000 Professional. I'm going to try it in > WinMEe, which is what I ran my P3-650 on for N4... if I find > different numbers I'll let everyone know. > > If anyone has any specific questions, go for it. I'm no "expert" but > I'm willing to help out anyone with a question. > > And please don't slam me for having a P4... somebody went nuts on Don > Burnette and that was kind of stupid I think. I spend my money how I > see fit, just like everyone else. I happen to love racing and it's > cheaper to buy a P4 setup than it is to buy a couple of sets of tires > for a real late model stock car :) > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Thanks for all the details. What we would all really like to know is a comparison between the P3-650 and the P4, both using the same video card (perhaps both of those too). That way, we can isolate how much of the frame rate hit us due to lack of video card vs. lack of CPU. Marc. "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Haven't seen many posts on using a Pentium 4 with NASCAR 4, so here is > one. > > I have Pentium 4 1.4 GHz setup on an Asus P4T motherboard (Enlight > 7327A4Z case for anyone interested). VisionTek GeForce2 Ultra AGP > card. 128MB of RAM (upgrading to 384 soon as I can find some decent > prices and availablity) > > I had been running N4 with a P3-650, 192MB of RAM, Viper 770 Ultra > 32MB AGP... > > The frame rates are pretty decent when I tested at Daytona in > 800x600x32 in direct3d on the P4 system. I think more important than > the framerates (75 fps going into turn 1, 40s in the front stretch > area) is the fluidness of the controls versus when I was running on > the P3-650. Everything just worked smoother, overall... > > I had all the reflections and stuff on, dirt, debris, etc. default > mirror details, 42 cars drawn ahead, default behind. car detail on > medium (detail on high wasn't too bad of a hit though with 26 cars on > the track, which is the only time I tested that setting). > > I also ran 1024x768x32 and it was pretty much the same as 800x600x32, > maybe a tad slower in frame rates, but very playable and very fluid. > > with a full 42 field and the graphics loaded up, Lowe's and Bristol > were a little bit jumpy, but that was about it. Martinsville was > awesome, except I can't seem to run more than 2-3 laps with a full > field before everyone starts crashing... > > On to OpenGL. I found OpenGL 800x600x32 to produce much higher frame > rates and I thought everything was better overall. I haven't tried > other OpenGL modes yet. I just wanted to report on how nice N4 does > play with the Pentium 4 and GeForce2 setup. > > Oh yeah, the OS is Windows 2000 Professional. I'm going to try it in > WinMEe, which is what I ran my P3-650 on for N4... if I find > different numbers I'll let everyone know. > > If anyone has any specific questions, go for it. I'm no "expert" but > I'm willing to help out anyone with a question. > > And please don't slam me for having a P4... somebody went nuts on Don > Burnette and that was kind of stupid I think. I spend my money how I > see fit, just like everyone else. I happen to love racing and it's > cheaper to buy a P4 setup than it is to buy a couple of sets of tires > for a real late model stock car :) > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

In article <[email hidden]>, George Lewis <[email hidden]> writes: >Well, my wife got the P3-650 as bribery :) She had a P166, so it was >time for an upgrade... now watch, someone is going to slam me cuz I >have 2 computers... (you can't win!) Well, I have *3*, so I can't say much. They're all 400mhz or less, though. :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well, I had a Viper 770 Ultra AGP on the 650, and used it on the P4 until I got my GeForce card the next day. The frame rates were higher but I compared Direct3D to Direct3D. OpenGL is awesomely fast on the GeForce2 Ultra card... I run a full field with all options on, but world detail set to 0, and all cars drawn ahead. car detail on medium. 800x600x32 openGL, we are in the 60-75 fps at Daytona, about 55 fps at Rockingham. With 1024x768x32 OpenGL, it's just a tad bit lower... very playable. So I feel that the P4 made the game more fluid and playable, but the GeForce2 Ultra card in OpenGL REALLY made it worthwhile! The card I purchased was the VisionTek GeForce2 Ultra 64MB DDR DVII/VGA/TV-Out. I understand the GeForce2MX is a good card too, though... On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:00:44 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks for all the details. What we would all really like to know is a >comparison between the P3-650 and the P4, both using the same video card >(perhaps both of those too). That way, we can isolate how much of the frame >rate hit us due to lack of video card vs. lack of CPU. > >Marc. > >"George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Haven't seen many posts on using a Pentium 4 with NASCAR 4, so here is >> one. >> >> I have Pentium 4 1.4 GHz setup on an Asus P4T motherboard (Enlight >> 7327A4Z case for anyone interested). VisionTek GeForce2 Ultra AGP >> card. 128MB of RAM (upgrading to 384 soon as I can find some decent >> prices and availablity) >> >> I had been running N4 with a P3-650, 192MB of RAM, Viper 770 Ultra >> 32MB AGP... >> >> The frame rates are pretty decent when I tested at Daytona in >> 800x600x32 in direct3d on the P4 system. I think more important than >> the framerates (75 fps going into turn 1, 40s in the front stretch >> area) is the fluidness of the controls versus when I was running on >> the P3-650. Everything just worked smoother, overall... >> >> I had all the reflections and stuff on, dirt, debris, etc. default >> mirror details, 42 cars drawn ahead, default behind. car detail on >> medium (detail on high wasn't too bad of a hit though with 26 cars on >> the track, which is the only time I tested that setting). >> >> I also ran 1024x768x32 and it was pretty much the same as 800x600x32, >> maybe a tad slower in frame rates, but very playable and very fluid. >> >> with a full 42 field and the graphics loaded up, Lowe's and Bristol >> were a little bit jumpy, but that was about it. Martinsville was >> awesome, except I can't seem to run more than 2-3 laps with a full >> field before everyone starts crashing... >> >> On to OpenGL. I found OpenGL 800x600x32 to produce much higher frame >> rates and I thought everything was better overall. I haven't tried >> other OpenGL modes yet. I just wanted to report on how nice N4 does >> play with the Pentium 4 and GeForce2 setup. >> >> Oh yeah, the OS is Windows 2000 Professional. I'm going to try it in >> WinMEe, which is what I ran my P3-650 on for N4... if I find >> different numbers I'll let everyone know. >> >> If anyone has any specific questions, go for it. I'm no "expert" but >> I'm willing to help out anyone with a question. >> >> And please don't slam me for having a P4... somebody went nuts on Don >> Burnette and that was kind of stupid I think. I spend my money how I >> see fit, just like everyone else. I happen to love racing and it's >> cheaper to buy a P4 setup than it is to buy a couple of sets of tires >> for a real late model stock car :) >> >> >> >> >> >> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- >

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> I understand the GeForce2MX is a good card too, > though... You would be correct in that assumtion... =-Rigs-= Rigs' Rig: ~46fps on the front stretch at Daytona with 1/2 world, med car/mirrior, 12 ahead, 4 behind P2/400 Asus P2B 128mb CAS3 SDRAM Hercules Prophet Geforce2 MX w/32mb & 6.50 Det's 6.3 WD HD, 32x CD LWFF WinME

My third is a server... and I have a laptop. so that's technically 4, but only the 2 are really "used"... On 19 Mar 2001 01:51:54 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, George Lewis ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>Well, my wife got the P3-650 as bribery :) She had a P166, so it was >>time for an upgrade... now watch, someone is going to slam me cuz I >>have 2 computers... (you can't win!) > >Well, I have *3*, so I can't say much. They're all 400mhz or less, though. :( > >Eldred

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