TSW owners, I have a question before ordering.

I currently use a LWFF and for some time have disabled the FF due to its unpredictable responses sometimes in the heat of battle. Since I have shunned FF after using it for over a year, I have decided to get the American made wheel, I never really cared for all the plastic or the overall feel of the Logitech anyway. So I've decided that the TSW2 Cup is what I'm looking for, I do like the paddle style shifters but may go with the Stock TSW2 Cup and change the wheel later if going back to the knob is too wierd for me. (My first wheel was an old trusty Thrusty T2) My question: I currently have the pedals on my LWFF setup on dual axis and really like the feel of that setup and have found that the TSW does not offer this capability (according to their site). Does anyone feel that a single axis brake/gas setup is really a disadvantage, advantage or what? I really think I can tell a difference when driving since going to dual axis, but it may just be me and not technically any better. Also, I love the Wingman Commander App and it's ability to map all the buttons and stuff. My question is how to you assign functions to the 2 buttons on the TSW? Are you locked into using it for non race related functions that I use now (Have most all F keys assigned to the LWFF buttons using one as a SHIFT key) Thanks for any insight, edb PS: I primarily only race with the Papyrus line of games, currently NASCAR Racing 4.

Sorry, just revisited their site and found that there is an upgrade (as always) to the single or dual axis setup for $15. Still unsure about the button assignments though. edb SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pYqu6.147399$[email hidden]... > I currently use a LWFF and for some time have disabled the FF due to its > unpredictable responses sometimes in the heat of battle. Since I have > shunned FF after using it for over a year, I have decided to get the > American made wheel, I never really cared for all the plastic or theoverall

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> feel of the Logitech anyway. > > So I've decided that the TSW2 Cup is what I'm looking for, I do like the > paddle style shifters but may go with the Stock TSW2 Cup and change the > wheel later if going back to the knob is too wierd for me. (My first wheel > was an old trusty Thrusty T2) > > My question: I currently have the pedals on my LWFF setup on dual axis and > really like the feel of that setup and have found that the TSW does not > offer this capability (according to their site). Does anyone feel that a > single axis brake/gas setup is really a disadvantage, advantage or what? I > really think I can tell a difference when driving since going to dual

axis, > but it may just be me and not technically any better. > > Also, I love the Wingman Commander App and it's ability to map all the > buttons and stuff. My question is how to you assign functions to the 2 > buttons on the TSW? Are you locked into using it for non race related > functions that I use now (Have most all F keys assigned to the LWFFbuttons

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> using one as a SHIFT key) > > Thanks for any insight, > > edb > > PS: I primarily only race with the Papyrus line of games, currently NASCAR > Racing 4. > >

Nope, you can't do any button assignment - apart from what you can do within the game. Maybe there's a piece of software somewhere that can do it? Dunno. skt SimRacer <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:70ru6.166861$[email hidden]...

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> Sorry, just revisited their site and found that there is an upgrade (as > always) to the single or dual axis setup for $15. > > Still unsure about the button assignments though. > > edb > > SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pYqu6.147399$[email hidden]... > > I currently use a LWFF and for some time have disabled the FF due to its > > unpredictable responses sometimes in the heat of battle. Since I have > > shunned FF after using it for over a year, I have decided to get the > > American made wheel, I never really cared for all the plastic or the > overall > > feel of the Logitech anyway. > > > > So I've decided that the TSW2 Cup is what I'm looking for, I do like the > > paddle style shifters but may go with the Stock TSW2 Cup and change the > > wheel later if going back to the knob is too wierd for me. (My first

wheel > > was an old trusty Thrusty T2) > > > > My question: I currently have the pedals on my LWFF setup on dual axisand > > really like the feel of that setup and have found that the TSW does not > > offer this capability (according to their site). Does anyone feel that a > > single axis brake/gas setup is really a disadvantage, advantage or what?I

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> > really think I can tell a difference when driving since going to dual > axis, > > but it may just be me and not technically any better. > > > > Also, I love the Wingman Commander App and it's ability to map all the > > buttons and stuff. My question is how to you assign functions to the 2 > > buttons on the TSW? Are you locked into using it for non race related > > functions that I use now (Have most all F keys assigned to the LWFF > buttons > > using one as a SHIFT key) > > > > Thanks for any insight, > > > > edb > > > > PS: I primarily only race with the Papyrus line of games, currently

NASCAR > > Racing 4. > > > > > >

"Steen Kjems Toudal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5nru6.817$[email hidden]... > Nope, you can't do any button assignment - apart from what you can dowithin > the game. Maybe there's a piece of software somewhere that can do it?Dunno. > > skt > The RBJoy utility allows you to assign key actions to the buttons of any controller. I use it with my Act Labs Force RS. Cheers Phil -- http://www.legendscentral.com http://www.geocities.com/f2_festival GPL Handicaps: F1 -2.85 secs, F2 +115.11 secs

SimRacer wrote: > > I currently use a LWFF ... I can't help you with the TSW questions, but do you intent to sell on your LWFF? I'm interested if you are. Cheers Gerry

I am considering it, let me see about how soon TSW can get a wheel built and to me. You can reach me at http://www.southeasternracing.com from the contacts page (H.Beasley),and remind me you're interested in about a week and I should be able to tell you something definitive then. edb Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > SimRacer wrote: > > > > I currently use a LWFF ... > > I can't help you with the TSW questions, but do you intent to sell on > your LWFF? I'm interested if you are. > > Cheers > > Gerry

...And that upgrade is well worth it. I ordered it along with my TSW, and it was extremely easy to install. SimRacer wrote:

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> Sorry, just revisited their site and found that there is an upgrade (as > always) to the single or dual axis setup for $15. > > Still unsure about the button assignments though. > > edb > > SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pYqu6.147399$[email hidden]... > > I currently use a LWFF and for some time have disabled the FF due to its > > unpredictable responses sometimes in the heat of battle. Since I have > > shunned FF after using it for over a year, I have decided to get the > > American made wheel, I never really cared for all the plastic or the > overall > > feel of the Logitech anyway. > > > > So I've decided that the TSW2 Cup is what I'm looking for, I do like the > > paddle style shifters but may go with the Stock TSW2 Cup and change the > > wheel later if going back to the knob is too wierd for me. (My first wheel > > was an old trusty Thrusty T2) > > > > My question: I currently have the pedals on my LWFF setup on dual axis and > > really like the feel of that setup and have found that the TSW does not > > offer this capability (according to their site). Does anyone feel that a > > single axis brake/gas setup is really a disadvantage, advantage or what? I > > really think I can tell a difference when driving since going to dual > axis, > > but it may just be me and not technically any better. > > > > Also, I love the Wingman Commander App and it's ability to map all the > > buttons and stuff. My question is how to you assign functions to the 2 > > buttons on the TSW? Are you locked into using it for non race related > > functions that I use now (Have most all F keys assigned to the LWFF > buttons > > using one as a SHIFT key) > > > > Thanks for any insight, > > > > edb > > > > PS: I primarily only race with the Papyrus line of games, currently NASCAR > > Racing 4. > > > >

-- Bert

You can get dual axis, and also a clutch pedal (great for GPL!). You can certainly use the buttons for look left/right in GPL, as the game allows you to assign buttons to any function. Not sure about other games though. The wheel is fantastic BTW - I got a LWFF as well, and never use it (the wheel is not as good as the TSW, but not too bad, but the pedals are awful compared to the TSW).

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:51:17 GMT, SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote: >really like the feel of that setup and have found that the TSW does not >offer this capability (according to their site). Does anyone feel that a >single axis brake/gas setup is really a disadvantage, advantage or what? I >really think I can tell a difference when driving since going to dual axis, >but it may just be me and not technically any better. > I recently got my TSW2mod and it works with Split Axis just fine. I also ordered the single axis adapter kit, but haven't used it at all so far. >functions that I use now (Have most all F keys assigned to the LWFF buttons >using one as a SHIFT key) no idea.... you set the wheel up as a generic 3 axis controller, so I guess you might be out of luck depending on which customization function your games offer. The TSW2 really is a nice product, as is the TSWmod. Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ uwe.schuerkamp at telemedia.de for direct mail (from: is spambox) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61