Re: Analysis of the "I have no cock"-message

How do I deactivate scripting in Outlook Express? I can't seem to find any setting like that in the options. JB "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:99gb96$i9$01$[email hidden]... > Hi! > > If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed > and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: > This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately > opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot,unless > you view the message again ;). > If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in > your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it,give

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> the author a nice *PLONK* ;). > > Regards > Crash > > > >

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:19:06 +0100, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote: ... >If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in >your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it, give >the author a nice *PLONK* ;). Ah, so that's the sound of him having No Cock anymore. ;-) Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

I think that "johnnyquest" email address is the intended victim of this little prank "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:99gb96$i9$01$[email hidden]... > Hi! > > If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed > and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: > This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately > opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot,unless > you view the message again ;). > If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in > your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it,give

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> the author a nice *PLONK* ;). > > Regards > Crash > > > > >

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:31:35 GMT, [email hidden] (John Hilsman) wrote:

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>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:19:06 +0100, "Joachim Blum" ><[email hidden]> wrote: >>If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed >>and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: >>This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately >>opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot, unless >>you view the message again ;). >>If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in >>your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it, give >>the author a nice *PLONK* ;). > >Best solution: > >Go to http://www.forteinc.com/ and download FreeAgent. You will >never, ever be struck by a 'virus' like this from a newsgroup again >(unless you do it to yourself by running an attached .EXE, but >hopefully you know better than to run .EXE files posted to ANY >newsgroup)

Not true. I have Agent, the pay version of Free Agent and I clicked on it and got the same problem.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:54:18 GMT, [email hidden] (John Hilsman) wrote:

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>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:18:04 -0800, Buford ><[email hidden]> wrote: >>Not true. I have Agent, the pay version of Free Agent and I clicked on >>it and got the same problem. > >Hmm.. Probably a newer version than mine, but I think I remember some >configuration option for enabling HTML, and I would turn something >like that off - for just this kind of reason. News ain't HTML, and it >shouldn't start just because Micro$oft started it - but that's another >rant :) > >I think the Free version of Agent uses a dated engine that doesn't >display HTML, but I could easily be wrong. Sorry for the >mis-information!

No problem here. I just wanted to mention that Agent didn't stop it. My Eudora mail program started up and was going nuts so I shut down the computer.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:19:06 +0100, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote: >If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in >your newsreader before you open the message. Even better: get a *real* news reader! ;) Jan

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>If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed >and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: >This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately >opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot, unless >you view the message again ;). >If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in >your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it, give >the author a nice *PLONK* ;).

How about not being fucking stupid enough to use Outlook as a newsreader? When you willingly let scripts be run from mail and news sent your way you deserve to have your computer fry. Try a decent reader like Xnews or WinVN or Agent. -Tim

He posted it everywhere. It was in alt.guitar with a different subject line. Brian "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:99gb96$i9$01$[email hidden]... > Hi! > > If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed > and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: > This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately > opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot,unless > you view the message again ;). > If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in > your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it,give

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> the author a nice *PLONK* ;). > > Regards > Crash > > > >

Do you mind? -Jeeezz! People who use OE or Netscape's reader or Eudora are no more stupid than anyone else. Personally I happen to like the OE interface better than either of the 3 you mentioned (which is not to say some aspects aren't handled better in those programs). I know I'm taking a risk by leaving scripts enabled but I really can't be bothered to screen each and every script before I allow it to run on the off-chance one would do some real harm. Jan./sorry, but this "real professional IT'ers use xxx"-attidute just gets up my nose. =--- The Enigmatic One wrote...

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> > <snip> > How about not being fucking stupid enough to use > Outlook as a newsreader? When you willingly let > scripts be run from mail and news sent your way > you deserve to have your computer fry. > > Try a decent reader like Xnews or WinVN or Agent. > > > -Tim >

Don't you start either!! ;-) Jan./that'll confuse the hell out of him if my reply to Tim doesn't propagate. ;-)) =--- Jan Loebzien wrote... > <snip> > Even better: get a *real* news reader! ;) > > Jan

"The Enigmatic One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kkXu6.2420$[email hidden]... > > Try a decent reader like Xnews or WinVN or Agent. > > > -Tim You can prevent the script from being run in Outlook Express by setting up a security zone in Internet Explorer that disallows scripts or prompts you before executing them. Either the Restricted Sites or the Internet Zone can be used. Then in Outlook Express in Tools - Options - Security select that Zone to be used for determining the security settings. Bart Westra

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:54:18 GMT, [email hidden] (John Hilsman) wrote:

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>Hmm.. Probably a newer version than mine, but I think I remember some >configuration option for enabling HTML, and I would turn something >like that off - for just this kind of reason. News ain't HTML, and it >shouldn't start just because Micro$oft started it - but that's another >rant :) > >I think the Free version of Agent uses a dated engine that doesn't >display HTML, but I could easily be wrong. Sorry for the >mis-information!

Agent doesn't display HTML either. But, it does post hypertext links that you double click on if you want to access the url directly. It doesn't run urls or exe files automatically.

hey "stupid" all you have to do is turn it off! The Enigmatic One <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> How about not being fucking stupid enough to use Outlook as a > newsreader? When you willingly let scripts be run from mail and news sent > your way you deserve to have your computer fry. > > Try a decent reader like Xnews or WinVN or Agent. > > > -Tim >

>Do you mind? -Jeeezz! Not really. >People who use OE or Netscape's reader or Eudora are no more stupid than >anyone else. Personally I happen to like the OE interface better than either >of the 3 you mentioned (which is not to say some aspects aren't handled >better in those programs). I know I'm taking a risk by leaving scripts >enabled but I really can't be bothered to screen each and every script >before I allow it to run on the off-chance one would do some real harm. You are just plain dumb, then. But it really is your computer--and it's your problem if it fries. >Jan./sorry, but this "real professional IT'ers use xxx"-attidute just gets >up my nose. Not "real IT'ers." Real is the wrong word. Try "smart." -Tim

>You can prevent the script from being run in Outlook Express by setting up a >security zone in Internet Explorer that disallows scripts or prompts you >before executing them. Either the Restricted Sites or the Internet Zone can >be used. Then in Outlook Express in Tools - Options - Security select that >Zone to be used for determining the security settings. Which is mostly fine as well, though quite honestly your newsreader really shouldn't even consider running scripts and such. -Tim

Hi! If you've accidentaly opened the mentioned message and your system crashed and you now fear that there might be something left, I can calm you down: This bad joke is nothing more than a two-liner JavaScript that infinately opens "mailto"-windows on your machine. It will not survive a reboot, unless you view the message again ;). If you want to look at the message safely then deactivate any scripting in your newsreader before you open the message. And when you have read it, give the author a nice *PLONK* ;). Regards Crash

"Wosco" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:07Pu6.6911$[email hidden]... Hi! > How do I deactivate scripting in Outlook Express? I can't seem to findany > setting like that in the options. OE uses the internet safety settings that are defined in IE. Click on "Extras", then on "Options", then on the tab "Safety" (I assume that they are labeled this way, I have the german version here). In the upper half of the tab, you can choose between two different safety settings. Choose the lower one. Goto IE and configure this setting to maximum safety (i. e. deactivate _all_ scripting etc.). Regards Crash

The Enigmatic One wrote... > <snip> > You are just plain dumb, then. But it really is your computer--and > it's your problem if it fries. So what if it does? Is this computer controlling a life critical system? -Does it hold the social security details for the region? -No. Does it, in fact, hold any information of relatively vital importance which isn't backed up daily? -No. On the other hand... 1 out of 1000 messages on RAS is html and in about 5 years of frequenting it, this was the first one which had any javascript in it, malicious or otherwise. I therefore conclude the chance of my system "frying" because of opening a message here is pretty remote. Besides, it doesn't "fry". The configuration gets messed up so as to render the computer unusable, but it does not become physically damaged. I can re-install this system in 3 hours flat, without even having to re-download the headers on RAS (thanks to a link someone posted here!). I plain refuse to become paraniod about my online presence. I'm not reckless, I run a firewall and a virusscanner and if someone sends me an attachment I'm not expecting that message is deleted, but I refuse to become a confirmation monkey just because someone told one IT campfire story too many. > ><snip> > Not "real IT'ers." Real is the wrong word. Try "smart." As in tiresome smartarse... false elitism and pathetic rebellion agains the "big bad software giant" Microsoft. Tried it (Agent), didn't like it and keeping it installed to DL binaries off newsgroups. Deal with it. I think I can live without the "cool sysadmin"-image. Jan. =---

So how come Agent...one of your special programs, runs scripts? Aww poor guy, his special program CONSIDERED running scripts. You seem to enjoy calling people dumb for using a program that runs scripts...does that make you dumb for telling us to get Agent? Grow up dude. JB "The Enigmatic One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:686v6.2422$[email hidden]... > > >You can prevent the script from being run in Outlook Express by settingup a > >security zone in Internet Explorer that disallows scripts or prompts you > >before executing them. Either the Restricted Sites or the Internet Zonecan > >be used. Then in Outlook Express in Tools - Options - Security selectthat

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> >Zone to be used for determining the security settings. > > Which is mostly fine as well, though quite honestly your newsreader > really shouldn't even consider running scripts and such. > > > -Tim >

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:41:20 GMT, [email hidden] (The Enigmatic One) wrote: > How about not being f---ing stupid enough to use Outlook Hey guys! If we let this troll set us fighting amongst ourselves, HE WINS... Let's move on and not give him the pleasure of laughing at all the fuss he's created... =^..^=

In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>People who use OE or Netscape's reader or Eudora are no more stupid than >anyone else. Personally I happen to like the OE interface better than either >of the 3 you mentioned (which is not to say some aspects aren't handled >better in those programs). I know I'm taking a risk by leaving scripts >enabled but I really can't be bothered to screen each and every script >before I allow it to run on the off-chance one would do some real harm. >

Why would you want to run scripts automatically anyway? If you read the message, and realize it's something you want/need, then you can enable it for that message. Why leave yourself open to attacks? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

<snip> > How about not being fucking stupid enough to use Outlook as a > newsreader? When you willingly let scripts be run from mail and news sent > your way you deserve to have your computer fry. > > Try a decent reader like Xnews or WinVN or Agent.<snip> Oh, boy! You are smart. We're not worthy! We're not worthy! Jon Andersen

>So how come Agent...one of your special programs, runs scripts? Aww poor >guy, his special program CONSIDERED running scripts. You seem to enjoy >calling people dumb for using a program that runs scripts...does that make >you dumb for telling us to get Agent? Grow up dude. Does Agent? I mentioned it to give a bit more than the two I use, WinVN and Xnews. I've heard that Agent is pretty good, or at least gives you the option to be secure. If not, I'll heartily drop my recommendation of it. -Tim

I was working from the assumption the setting was shared with IE, so I'd have to confirm while browsing too. According to Bart this isn't the case, so that argument is out of the window. So now I'm down to just being pissed off for being called stupid on account of my choice of newsreader. ;-) Jan. =--- EldredP wrote...

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> <snip> > Why would you want to run scripts automatically anyway? If > you read the message, and realize it's something you want/need, > then you can enable it for that message. Why leave yourself > open to attacks? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The security setting in Outlook Express *is* shared with Internet Explorer. The way I use it is to indeed get a prompt for every script on an unknown site, this is my setting for the Internet zone. I have set Outlook Express to use that zone as well. I enter sites that I visit a lot in the Trusted sites list of Internet Explorer, for which I have scripts and other stuff enabled. The other way is to set the Internet security zone settings more relaxed, and tell Outlook Express to use the settings of the Restricted sites zone. That way Outlook Express will act semi-independent of Internet Explorer (at least it would for me, as I have no other use for the Restricted sites zone). But you still set the security details in Internet Explorer, not in Outlook Express. Bart "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I was working from the assumption the setting was shared with IE, so I'd > have to confirm while browsing too. According to Bart this isn't the case, > so that argument is out of the window. So now I'm down to just beingpissed > off for being called stupid on account of my choice of newsreader. ;-) > > Jan. > =---