System construction blues...

I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. I powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the ram and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the system board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard flash, then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock don't turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the first place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate assessment? This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and F12K, and running GPL with all the details on... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Make sure your not shorting your mb out with the mounting screws. If you can, remove the screws and see if it will power up - if so, you have one shorting out somehow - add each one back in one at a time and try booting till you find the culprit. I had this problem when I built my first system, and it about drove me nuts till I figured out I was shorting the mb. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. I > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the ram > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the system > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard flash, > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock don't > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the first > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate assessment? > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and F12K, > and running GPL with all the details on... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You can also try booting with just your video card in, if that works then you may have a conflict somewhere, add your pci cards one at a time and let windows assign resources individually. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahov6.37854$[email hidden]... > Make sure your not shorting your mb out with the mounting screws. If you > can, remove the screws and see if it will power up - if so, you have one > shorting out somehow - add each one back in one at a time and try booting > till you find the culprit. > I had this problem when I built my first system, and it about drove me nuts > till I figured out I was shorting the mb. > > -- > Don Burnette > D Burnette in N4 > > Some people do nothing wrong. > The problem is, they do nothing. > And THAT is wrong. > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. > I > > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the > ram > > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the > system > > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard > flash, > > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock > don't > > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the > first > > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate > assessment? > > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and > F12K, > > and running GPL with all the details on... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

If that doesn't work, then you may have a component mb adapter plugged into the mb the wrong way. This happaned to me when I built my system, and since there's nothing to how you exactly which way the plugs to your mb's component interfaces are supposed to go, I had to use trial and error to find the right direction on all of these. I'm not talking about the components that have the harness that plugs into the outlet from the power supply, but rather the few (CPU, ground, power/reset buttons, etc.) that plug straight onto the mother board and fit over 2 or 3 prongs. Good luck. The effort will be worth it! Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahov6.37854$[email hidden]... > Make sure your not shorting your mb out with the mounting screws. If you > can, remove the screws and see if it will power up - if so, you have one > shorting out somehow - add each one back in one at a time and try booting > till you find the culprit. > I had this problem when I built my first system, and it about drove menuts

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> till I figured out I was shorting the mb. > > -- > Don Burnette > D Burnette in N4 > > Some people do nothing wrong. > The problem is, they do nothing. > And THAT is wrong. > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video,

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> ram > > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the > system > > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard > flash, > > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock > don't > > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the > first > > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of

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> > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate > assessment? > > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and > F12K, > > and running GPL with all the details on... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > >

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... It does sound to me like something may not be right with the motherboard. Take a good look and make sure it's mounted correctly. I had one a ways back that gave me fits getting to boot (just as you describe). Ended up having something to do with the metal post mount toward the back of the case. I replaced it and the paper washers and it worked fine. Never did know exactly what was wrong with that post. Double and triple check all, if any, jumpers your motherboard has. Could be CPU related and may be the clocking or voltages have not been set correctly. Also, make sure the internal speaker is connected correctly. I may be spitting out POST beep codes and you just can't hear them. Try and old PCI video card if you have one laying around. Could be the AGP port. Also, try it without any addin cards in the system.Pull out sound, game controllers and any other cards you may have in the system. Last thing I would do is boot it up without a video card and without the keyboard plugged in. It MUST be spitting POST beep codes at that point. Hopefully, your motherboard doesn't have on board video. Well, that was almost the last thing I would try. The absolute last thing I would try would be to return the motherboard CPU combo back for replacement parts. ;) HH > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc.I > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried theram > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either thesystem > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboardflash, > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lockdon't > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in thefirst > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurateassessment? > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 andF12K,

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> and running GPL with all the details on... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hey Eldred, I just built a new system yesterday and I can't believe the difference. I went from a PII350 with V5 5500 PCI to a 1.2GHZ AMD T-Bird(oc'd to 1333) and GeForce 2 GTS 64 meg. Haven't re-loaded GPL yet but I did load N4. HOLY SHIT!! Liquid smooth with all eye candy and full field and draw distance and mirrors. You won't be disapointed. What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don't have the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. What are the exact system specs you are trying to put together? This will greatly help people who are trying to diagnose your problem.Hope this helps. Good luck. Doug "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc.I > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried theram > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either thesystem > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboardflash, > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lockdon't > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in thefirst > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurateassessment? > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 andF12K,

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> and running GPL with all the details on... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. I > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the ram > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the system > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard flash, > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock don't > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the first > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate assessment? > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and F12K, > and running GPL with all the details on...

If your motherboard is an ABIT KT7, take a look at the troubleshooting section at this page: http://home.wanadoo.nl/howland/kt7faq/kt7faq.htm.

I also had problems with mine and it turned out the ram was not compatible. It did however beep. I also had a problem when the cpu was not fully seated. What you should do is remove everything including ram and cpu and powerup and watch its behaviour. If the cpu fans, hds and lights turn on and it beeps the mobo is probably ok. Triple check your jumper settings etc, and plug one thing in at a time. You may need to swap parts especially ram with other machines to find compatible parts. rms [email hidden]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:00:39 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don't have >the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will >shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. Doug I have the same board and did exactly the same thing last weekend - took me 2 hours to figure out (despite the fact the CPU fan was working) To the original poster - things like this can be very difficult and annoying to pin down. You may have to take the whole thing to bits again (sorry) and carefully reassemble it to simply check and find out the fault Ian

In article <Xupv6.7973$[email hidden]>, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don't have >the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will >shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. What are >the exact system specs you are trying to put together? This will greatly >help people who are trying to diagnose your problem.Hope this helps. Good >luck. > Doug

AZ11 mobo, Athlon 1.1G, Voodoo 5, 128MB. The CPU fan is plugged in correctly, and it *is* spinning.... <checks a few more things...> Hmm...I just pulled all the screws out of the motherboard as Don suggested, and disconnected all drive cables. I have a startup screen now. Ok, so the mobo and CPU *do* work(whew...). Now I just have to figure out what was shorted/connected wrong... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I have been monitoring this thread Eldred. I am glad you are getting results and the RAS'ers are giving great input!! Hang in there buddy. It seems like you're on the right track & especially with this NGs help! Well Done guyz! It's even refreshing to see it as we've had too many negative posts lately & No guyz I ain't getting "sappy".. hahahaha <big grin!> Cheers Thom_j. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | AZ11 mobo, Athlon 1.1G, Voodoo 5, 128MB. The CPU fan is plugged incorrectly, | and it *is* spinning.... | <checks a few more things...> | | Hmm...I just pulled all the screws out of the motherboard as Donsuggested, and | disconnected all drive cables. I have a startup screen now. Ok, so themobo | and CPU *do* work(whew...). Now I just have to figure out what was | shorted/connected wrong... | | Eldred

On 25 Mar 2001 22:12:37 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >AZ11 mobo, Athlon 1.1G, Voodoo 5, 128MB. The CPU fan is plugged in correctly, >and it *is* spinning.... ><checks a few more things...> That's the FIC board, no? I d/l'd the manual and printed it off to study. Let us know what you think of it after you've got it working and have lived with it for a while. I'm thinking about it and an 800 Duron to fit my budget. Regards, Brett C. Cammack brettDOTcammack@worldnetDOTattDOTnet (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)

One problem I had with my KT7A and 1.2 AMD was that a fan *had* to be installed on FAN1 or the thing refused to boot. I had an awesome fan, but it was hooked directly to the power supply. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. I > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the ram > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the system > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard flash, > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock don't > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the first > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate assessment? > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and F12K, > and running GPL with all the details on... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Ian Greenwood <[email hidden]> writes:

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>>What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don't have >>the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will >>shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. > >Doug > >I have the same board and did exactly the same thing last weekend - >took me 2 hours to figure out (despite the fact the CPU fan was >working) > > >To the original poster - things like this can be very difficult and >annoying to pin down. You may have to take the whole thing to bits >again (sorry) and carefully reassemble it to simply check and find out >the fault

Well, since it's not really 'together' yet, it's easy to yank the motherboard back out. I *still* don't see what's wrong with it... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <Lfuv6.48509$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >I have been monitoring this thread Eldred. I am glad you are getting results >and the RAS'ers are giving great input!! Hang in there buddy. It seems like >you're on the right track & especially with this NGs help! Well Done guyz! >It's even refreshing to see it as we've had too many negative posts lately & >No guyz I ain't getting "sappy".. hahahaha I got happy too quick. It's not working again. I put in 2 screws - worked fine. Put in a 3rd, it stopped working. Ok...took that screw back out - nothing. Took the OTHER 2 out - nothing. WTF?!? This thing is about to go out the window... >:-[ Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote ... > > I got happy too quick. It's not working again. I put in 2 screws -worked > fine. Put in a 3rd, it stopped working. Ok...took that screw back out - > nothing. Took the OTHER 2 out - nothing. WTF?!? This thing is about togo > out the window... >:-[ > > EldredMaybe your motherboard is shorting on the pillars under the screw holes? There should be some insulating washers supplied with your motherboard. I've had a similar experience in the past - I never did really find out what caused it, I quit when it started working. Welcome to the wonderful world of electronics! -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +8.59 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

Pierre.......what are you doing? Long time no hear..<vbg> :o) Matt Miraglia SCORL Race Director www.scorl.com Pierre Robitaille wrote:

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> EldredP wrote: > > > > I'm in the process of building a new system. Athlon 1.1G, V5 video, etc. I > > powered it on - it doesn't work(no bootno display, no beep). I tried the ram > > and video in another system, they work fine. That leaves either the system > > board or CPU. When I turn on the system, the lights on the keyboard flash, > > then go out like normal. After that, hitting capslock or scroll lock don't > > turn on the associated lights. The fact that the lights come on in the first > > place tells me that the system board is going through at least PART of the > > POST, so the CPU is the problem. Does that seem like an accurate assessment? > > This pisses me off - I was looking forward to being able to run GP3 and F12K, > > and running GPL with all the details on... > > If your motherboard is an ABIT KT7, take a look at the troubleshooting > section at this page: http://home.wanadoo.nl/howland/kt7faq/kt7faq.htm.

I would be willing to bet if you placed fiber washers under the heads of the screws holding the MB it will solve your problem. It is a grounding problem that is seen on ABIT boards. GL "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Xupv6.7973$[email hidden]>, "Doug Hook" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don'thave > >the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will > >shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. Whatare > >the exact system specs you are trying to put together? This will greatly > >help people who are trying to diagnose your problem.Hope this helps. Good > >luck. > > Doug > > AZ11 mobo, Athlon 1.1G, Voodoo 5, 128MB. The CPU fan is plugged incorrectly, > and it *is* spinning.... > <checks a few more things...> > > Hmm...I just pulled all the screws out of the motherboard as Donsuggested, and > disconnected all drive cables. I have a startup screen now. Ok, so themobo

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> and CPU *do* work(whew...). Now I just have to figure out what was > shorted/connected wrong... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

Hi E, I would bet that the short is at the third screw on the underside of the board. You will probably need in insulation washer on the bottom of the board at that screw. When I put my new machine together, I used a meter to measure between the case and all power supply connections for shorts before turning it on. If you don't have a meter, even the cheap Radidio Schmuck special will tell you where the problem is. Just put the screws back one at a time and check resistance after each one. Good Luck Jeff "speedcrazed" EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Lfuv6.48509$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > I got happy too quick. It's not working again. I put in 2 screws -worked > fine. Put in a 3rd, it stopped working. Ok...took that screw back out - > nothing. Took the OTHER 2 out - nothing. WTF?!? This thing is about togo

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> out the window... >:-[ > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP> I got happy too quick. It's not working again. I put in 2 screws - worked > fine. Put in a 3rd, it stopped working. i have just two words for you E. Duct Tape.(aka 200mph tape) lose the screws and tape the mb to your case...:> dave henrie

The way I get around the shorted mounting screws when assembling systems is to put clear fingernail polish around the mounting holes on the board. Don "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Xupv6.7973$[email hidden]>, "Doug Hook" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >What motherboard do you have? I know on my abit kt7a raid if you don'thave > >the cpu fan plugged into fan header 1 on the motherboard the system will > >shut itself off after 3 or 4 seconds to prevent damage to the cpu. Whatare > >the exact system specs you are trying to put together? This will greatly > >help people who are trying to diagnose your problem.Hope this helps. Good > >luck. > > Doug > > AZ11 mobo, Athlon 1.1G, Voodoo 5, 128MB. The CPU fan is plugged incorrectly, > and it *is* spinning.... > <checks a few more things...> > > Hmm...I just pulled all the screws out of the motherboard as Donsuggested, and > disconnected all drive cables. I have a startup screen now. Ok, so themobo

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> and CPU *do* work(whew...). Now I just have to figure out what was > shorted/connected wrong... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <Sk5w6.1165$[email hidden]>, "Cobra" <[email hidden]> writes: >I would be willing to bet if you placed fiber washers under the heads of the >screws holding the MB it will solve your problem. It is a grounding problem >that is seen on ABIT boards. > I already used the washers under the screw heads. I had that from the start. But, the problem even occurs with NO screws in the board. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <vCTv6.14985$[email hidden]>, "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> writes: >One problem I had with my KT7A and 1.2 AMD was that a fan *had* to be >installed >on FAN1 or the thing refused to boot. I had an awesome fan, but it was hooked >directly to the power supply. > There's a connection for the CPU fan(which is plugged in). There's another connection for a seperate fan, but that's marked 'optional'. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <U00w6.34792$[email hidden]>, "Tony Whitley" <tony.whitley@nStPlAwMorld. c o m> writes: >Maybe your motherboard is shorting on the pillars under the screw holes? >There should be some insulating washers supplied with your motherboard. I've >had a similar experience in the past - I never did really find out what >caused it, I quit when it started working. > >Welcome to the wonderful world of electronics! It seems like it would be difficult to put the washers UNDER the motherboard. I mean, it would easy to place the washers on the pillars, but when you install the board, you'll knock them off... :( But, this and the posts from Jeff and Dave gave me an idea of something to try. Thanks. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <U0cw6.632344$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: >"EldredP> I got happy too quick. It's not working again. I put in 2 >screws - worked >> fine. Put in a 3rd, it stopped working. > i have just two words for you E. Duct Tape.(aka 200mph tape) lose the >screws and >tape the mb to your case...:> Hmmm...that gives me an 'idear'...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:04:30 GMT, "Don Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The way I get around the shorted mounting screws when assembling systems is >to put clear fingernail polish around the mounting holes on the board. >Don Most motherboards come with those ring thingies for that purpose (look like paper ring binder reinforcements).

In article <99t4at$[email hidden]>, "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I've just assembled my system. The motherboard had mounting holes that were >obviously earthing points, so I put in a pillar and a screw into the case. >It had other mounting points that weren't obvious earthing points, so in >these I put the plastic pillars supplied with the case. These were just >supports. > >Maybe you're screwing the wrong hole! :-)

Hehe...no comment... :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <iYnw6.32$[email hidden]>, "Don Schwartz" <[email hidden]> writes: >The way I get around the shorted mounting screws when assembling systems is >to put clear fingernail polish around the mounting holes on the board. >Don That's a good idea! It won't affect anything on the board? Hmm...now I just have to find some fingernail polish(I'm not married<g>). Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

<snip> "> That's a good idea! It won't affect anything on the board? It's worked for me on a couple of occasions when I built systems based on the Fic Va-503+ boards which are notourious for shorting out on the mounting screws. The way I test for this problem is to set the board in the case with the antistatic bag under the board so it can't ground to the chassis, I then plug in the floppie drive, hard drive,memory, cpu and a video card and power the system up. If it runs like this then it's a mounting short and I break out the nail polish. As always "your mileage may vary" Don

In article <99lbmb$4ts8$[email hidden]>, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I also had problems with mine and it turned out the ram was not compatible. >It did however beep. I also had a problem when the cpu was not fully >seated. What you should do is remove everything including ram and cpu and >powerup and watch its behaviour. If the cpu fans, hds and lights turn on >and it beeps the mobo is probably ok. Triple check your jumper settings >etc, and plug one thing in at a time. You may need to swap parts especially >ram with other machines to find compatible parts. >

Well, I tried to insulate the pylons that the mobo rests on. No difference. I tried another memory module, no good. Both modules I tried work on other systems. The power supply fan comes on, and the fans on the V5 come on(which also works in another system). Maybe it's a bad CPU... :( Problem is, to get the CPU out, I'm have to rip the heat sink/fan off it. It covers the release lever when it's in place. That's a shitty design, if you ask me... Grrr... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.