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Puzzling GPL Question

4 posts by 3 people · 28 Mar 2001 03:19 UTC - 29 Mar 2001 03:05 UTC

BRH 28 Mar 2001 03:19 UTC#193492
I've been practicing at the Glen tonight and have come across a problem I've never encountered before. I can't quite decide whether it's a hardware problem, or something programmed into GPL. In short, I find that after a few laps of practice, my brake pedal fails -- completely. If I Shift-R, the brake functionality immediately returns -- until it again fails within a lap or two. If I escape and return to the pits, the brake functionality is back again, but then fails after a few laps again. This happens without warning, and happens at any braking point on the track. I'm practicing with the No Damage setting, so even if this brake failure is built into GPL, shouldn't it be disabled in that mode? It doesn't _appear_ to happen on any other track, or with any other sim (although I haven't had a chance to test all of my sims extensively). After failure, a quick check in Control Panel and within the GPL controller screen indicates no problem with the brake pedal. Is there some glitch with the Glen? Am I overcooking the brakes? I'm using standard TSW pedals in split-axis mode, using the higher-grade TSW pots. Any help/thoughts would be appreciated? -- Bert -- Bert
I have done literally thousands of laps at Watkins Glen in GPL and have never experienced this. -Tony- BRH wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)> I've been practicing at the Glen tonight and have come across a problem > I've never encountered before. I can't quite decide whether it's a > hardware problem, or something programmed into GPL. > > In short, I find that after a few laps of practice, my brake pedal fails > -- completely. If I Shift-R, the brake functionality immediately > returns -- until it again fails within a lap or two. If I escape and > return to the pits, the brake functionality is back again, but then > fails after a few laps again. This happens without warning, and > happens at any braking point on the track. I'm practicing with the No > Damage setting, so even if this brake failure is built into GPL, > shouldn't it be disabled in that mode? > > It doesn't _appear_ to happen on any other track, or with any other sim > (although I haven't had a chance to test all of my sims extensively). > After failure, a quick check in Control Panel and within the GPL > controller screen indicates no problem with the brake pedal. Is there > some glitch with the Glen? Am I overcooking the brakes? > > I'm using standard TSW pedals in split-axis mode, using the higher-grade > TSW pots. > > Any help/thoughts would be appreciated? > > -- > Bert > > -- > Bert
Peter Ives 28 Mar 2001 23:30 UTC↳ reply to BRH#193431
In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (24 lines)>I've been practicing at the Glen tonight and have come across a problem >I've never encountered before. I can't quite decide whether it's a >hardware problem, or something programmed into GPL. > >In short, I find that after a few laps of practice, my brake pedal fails >-- completely. If I Shift-R, the brake functionality immediately >returns -- until it again fails within a lap or two. If I escape and >return to the pits, the brake functionality is back again, but then >fails after a few laps again. This happens without warning, and >happens at any braking point on the track. I'm practicing with the No >Damage setting, so even if this brake failure is built into GPL, >shouldn't it be disabled in that mode? > >It doesn't _appear_ to happen on any other track, or with any other sim >(although I haven't had a chance to test all of my sims extensively). >After failure, a quick check in Control Panel and within the GPL >controller screen indicates no problem with the brake pedal. Is there >some glitch with the Glen? Am I overcooking the brakes? > >I'm using standard TSW pedals in split-axis mode, using the higher-grade >TSW pots. > >Any help/thoughts would be appreciated? >
I've got some vague recollection of something similar happening to me in the controller department using a joystick. Can't quite recall what it was exactly, though do recall shift-r or restarting from the pits seemed to reset it. Oh, now I remember, without warning the whole steering would go completely wonky as if I no longer had control. The car would go into an acceleration frenzy, veer off the road and no amount of use of the brake would make any kind of difference - instant wreck. Unfortunately I don't recall the fix, though I'm pretty sure that this only happened with one particular joystick and I've got through a few believe me. Have you tried recalibration from within GPL, making sure that when doing so to be extra smooth so as not to produce any possible spikes that may give unusual readings that GPL can't cope with. Only thing that I can suggest, apart from trying a different controller that is. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.
BRH 29 Mar 2001 03:05 UTC↳ reply to Peter Ives#193352
Thanks for the suggestions. Before trying them, I decided to remove the piece of wood which I keep between the wall and pedals to keep them from sliding, and tried a few laps. Ran about 10 laps and had absolutely no brake problems. That indicated to me that perhaps there was a hardware problem with the pedals. Sure enough. Upon closer inspection, I find that the aforementioned piece of wood had rubbed against the wire coming from the wheel into the pedals, and wore away the wire insulation. I suppose that I could just wrap a piece of electrician's tape around that spot to and see if that solves the problem (and stop uisng that piece of wood, of course), but does anyone know of another better solution? Can this wire be totally replaced? (I believe that it's just fed through the opening to the brake pedal pot.) If so, can I get a replacement locally, or would I have to contact TSW? Perhaps it's some sort of standard cable. This would be for the original TSW (not TSW2) pedals. Thanks. Peter Ives wrote:
Quoted text (48 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <[email hidden]> writes > >I've been practicing at the Glen tonight and have come across a problem > >I've never encountered before. I can't quite decide whether it's a > >hardware problem, or something programmed into GPL. > > > >In short, I find that after a few laps of practice, my brake pedal fails > >-- completely. If I Shift-R, the brake functionality immediately > >returns -- until it again fails within a lap or two. If I escape and > >return to the pits, the brake functionality is back again, but then > >fails after a few laps again. This happens without warning, and > >happens at any braking point on the track. I'm practicing with the No > >Damage setting, so even if this brake failure is built into GPL, > >shouldn't it be disabled in that mode? > > > >It doesn't _appear_ to happen on any other track, or with any other sim > >(although I haven't had a chance to test all of my sims extensively). > >After failure, a quick check in Control Panel and within the GPL > >controller screen indicates no problem with the brake pedal. Is there > >some glitch with the Glen? Am I overcooking the brakes? > > > >I'm using standard TSW pedals in split-axis mode, using the higher-grade > >TSW pots. > > > >Any help/thoughts would be appreciated? > > > > I've got some vague recollection of something similar happening to me in > the controller department using a joystick. Can't quite recall what it > was exactly, though do recall shift-r or restarting from the pits seemed > to reset it. Oh, now I remember, without warning the whole steering > would go completely wonky as if I no longer had control. The car would > go into an acceleration frenzy, veer off the road and no amount of use > of the brake would make any kind of difference - instant wreck. > Unfortunately I don't recall the fix, though I'm pretty sure that this > only happened with one particular joystick and I've got through a few > believe me. > > Have you tried recalibration from within GPL, making sure that when > doing so to be extra smooth so as not to produce any possible spikes > that may give unusual readings that GPL can't cope with. Only thing > that I can suggest, apart from trying a different controller that is. > -- > Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) > Remove ALL_STRESS before replying > > No person's opinions can be said to be > more correct than another's, because each is > the sole judge of his or her own experience.
-- Bert

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