Logi Formula (not GP) Wheels (FF & non-FF)

I have seen a few Logitech Formula wheels, both Force and non Force. These are NOT the newer "GP" models. Most of the reviews I have read on the GP models say that they are ok but not as good as the original non-GP. So, for those of you with expierence could you tell me if any of these non-GP wheels are worth looking into? Would I be better off getting some other wheel?

On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:15:00 -0400, "Joe L." <[email hidden]> wrote: > I have seen a few Logitech Formula wheels, both Force and non Force. >These are NOT the newer "GP" models. Most of the reviews I have read on >the GP models say that they are ok but not as good as the original non-GP. > So, for those of you with expierence could you tell me if any of these >non-GP wheels are worth looking into? Would I be better off getting some >other wheel? Hi...I had an old Formula (all black) nonFF earlier. I sold that to a friend a year ago...:( and I have been looking for the same model with FF (all yellow) the last couple of months. I coud'nt find it anywhere, so I just last week bought a Formula FF GT(partly red) My experience is, that the quality of the wheel is more "plasticish" than the old one..:( and the clamping system is MUCH worse...! But apart from that, I think I got what I payed for..:) It's cheap (around 110 USD in Denmark). ...and SCGT is included...I just put it beside the SCGT I bought 2 years ago for 50 USD..:) I also had two wheels for test 2 weeks ago: A Thrustmaster 360 Modena Pro and a similar without Pro. None of them is FF...The diff between the nonPro and the Pro is a shifter included on right side of the Pro. These wheels are similar to the Nascar thing from Thrustmaster I think... And also very cheap....(Pro=85 USD - nonPro= 62 USD) I think for now I keep my LWFF-GT and I break it apart and make a better clamping system... some day... Or maybe find a second hand old-type-LWFF model with good clamping and more metal..:) and change the pot's....:) Good luck searching... -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thore Sorensen - [email hidden] DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

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>On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:15:00 -0400, "Joe L." ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> I have seen a few Logitech Formula wheels, both Force and non >> Force. >>These are NOT the newer "GP" models. Most of the reviews I have read >>on the GP models say that they are ok but not as good as the original >>non-GP. >> So, for those of you with expierence could you tell me if any of >> these >>non-GP wheels are worth looking into? Would I be better off getting >>some other wheel? > >Hi...I had an old Formula (all black) nonFF earlier. I sold that to a >friend a year ago...:( and I have been looking for the same model with >FF (all yellow) the last couple of months. I coud'nt find it anywhere,

do you not mean the formula force with the all red grip? i've got one. -- brian "I am the Prince of Insufficient Light"

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:47:21 +0200, Thore Sorensen <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:15:00 -0400, "Joe L." ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> I have seen a few Logitech Formula wheels, both Force and non Force. >>These are NOT the newer "GP" models. Most of the reviews I have read on >>the GP models say that they are ok but not as good as the original non-GP. >> So, for those of you with expierence could you tell me if any of these >>non-GP wheels are worth looking into? Would I be better off getting some >>other wheel? >

If you can get an old LWFF, go for it. They should sell quite cheap right now, if still available. Wear parts (cables, switches, pots, bearings <aehm>) are available from 3rd party, so this wheel can last forever. I guess that anybody who tried it will confirm that the LWFF is the smoothest wheel available. JensSchumi --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -9.05 Monsters of GPL: +197

comments thrown in below On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:47:21 +0200, Thore Sorensen <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Hi...I had an old Formula (all black) nonFF earlier. I sold that to a >friend a year ago...:( and I have been looking for the same model with >FF (all yellow) the last couple of months. I coud'nt find it anywhere, the yellow is non-FF, the red one is FF >so I just last week bought a Formula FF GT(partly red) This one is the new LWFF

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>My experience is, that the quality of the wheel is more "plasticish" >than the old one..:( and the clamping system is MUCH worse...! >But apart from that, I think I got what I payed for..:) >It's cheap (around 110 USD in Denmark). >...and SCGT is included...I just put it beside the SCGT I bought 2 years >ago for 50 USD..:) > >I also had two wheels for test 2 weeks ago: A Thrustmaster 360 Modena >Pro and a similar without Pro. None of them is FF...The diff between the >nonPro and the Pro is a shifter included on right side of the Pro. These >wheels are similar to the Nascar thing from Thrustmaster I think... >And also very cheap....(Pro=85 USD - nonPro= 62 USD) > >I think for now I keep my LWFF-GT >and I break it apart and make a better clamping system... some day... >Or maybe find a second hand old-type-LWFF model with good clamping and >more metal..:) and change the pot's....:) > >Good luck searching...

I bought 3 old LWFF's in german ebay, from 135 to 180DM. the latter one was a never-used Taiwan one. JensSchumi --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -9.05 Monsters of GPL: +197