Monza GP results!

Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT of engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html I'll post a full report later. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Splendid racing though from my point of view. Started from back of pack,avoiding the initial few incidents in the first 1/2 dozen laps and went on to get as high as 2nd before my engine melted a piston 6 miserable laps from the end (sniff). Still not a bad run for a Honda. Noticed there was this Pickett guy that was starting to overhaul me quite rapidly towards the end. Oddly enough he claims to be slow! While I certainly wouldn't call the gentleman a sandbagger I think (with apologies to the Bard) that the racer doth protest too much. :) Nice run Eldred, I think you would have caught me anyway even without my engine trouble. Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad and RMS too for making it all the way. Dave_Erb "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! > It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOTof

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> engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. > Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html > I'll post a full report later. > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

When Eldred the slow began his quest for speed, he could legitimately 'claim' to be amoung the turtles of the GPL world. but now, even as he rose as a champion of the slow and downtrodden, he has moved beyond us mere sub-humans. He has evolved into an almost alien level...not there yet...but certainly no longer to be counted amongst the slow of foot. dave henrie "David Erb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UGNx6.25986$. (snips) >Noticed there was > this Pickett guy that was starting to overhaul me quite rapidly towardsthe > end. Oddly enough he claims to be slow! While I certainly wouldn't callthe > gentleman a sandbagger I think (with apologies to the Bard) that the racer > doth protest too much. :) Nice run Eldred, I think you would have caughtme > anyway even without my engine trouble. Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad and RMStoo

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> for making it all the way. > > Dave_Erb > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! > > It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT > of > > engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. > > Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html > > I'll post a full report later. > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

Yeah Dave, You really were going well (though Eldred was catching you... way to go Eldred!!). In the early laps it was comforting to know it was you in the mirrors (better the devil you know <g>). Was a pleasure watching you apply your smooth style as you made your way up through the field after you passed (and I crashed out). Too bad I made that silly mistake out of Ascari and your enigne blew, otherwise it would have been two MARiAns in the top 5. ;-) Jan. =--- David Erb wrote... > Splendid racing though from my point of view. <snip>

[email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! Thanks, and thanks for hosting. > It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT of > engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. I must admit that I didn't realize that it was a full length GP until about 3 minutes before the start. So I just filled up the qualify-like setup with fuel. I wasn't sure how much fuel I would need, and the famed reliability of the Lotus wasn't to assuring either. I short-shifted most of the race. After Warringas crash, it was lonely in the lead, and I was lucky to finish. Twice I scraped paint of the armoco in lesmo, and twice I entered the sand outside Parabolica, once almost getting stuck in the hedge. And my chair which doesn't seem too bad in pro short races was giving me some pain... My first full length GPL race, and I'm already addicted. When's the next race? :-) -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > >Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! >It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT of >engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. >Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html I got knocked out in turn one by some moron who went on to blow his engine after one lap! If you can't keep your car together for more than one lap why are you joining a full length race? Just to ruin my day, I guess. Don McCorkle

Well done Asbj�rn. Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad wrote: > After Warringas crash, it was lonely in the lead, and I was lucky to > finish. Twice I scraped paint of the armoco in lesmo, and twice I > entered the sand outside Parabolica, once almost getting stuck in the > hedge. >When I saw those incidents I declared my support for D. Erb. You kept it together well at the end. Andr� W. and I scraped our wheels against the armcos too, but we were not quite so lucky. > And my chair which doesn't seem too bad in pro short races was giving > me some pain... > LOL > My first full length GPL race, and I'm already addicted. When's the > next race? :-) Ah, but the first one is free. Then you have to pay Eldred $10 per race. ;-) Cheers, Jens

On 02 Apr 2001 11:07:56 GMT, [email hidden] (Woodie 83) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > >> >>Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! >>It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT of >>engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. >>Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html > >I got knocked out in turn one by some moron who went on to blow his engine >after one lap! If you can't keep your car together for more than one lap why >are you joining a full length race? Just to ruin my day, I guess. > >Don McCorkle

Next race should be a PW race I think.. Andre

On 02 Apr 2001 15:34:45 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I haven't decided when the next one is. Probably some time in May. The track >will be Mexico, though. >I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of the >real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> Good idea, I'm in! :) Andre

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>Eldred >-- >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Woodie 83) writes:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > >> >>Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad! >>It was a boring race in the middle of the pack, there seemed to be a LOT of >>engine problems. 16 cars started, 3 finished. >>Results available here: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/monza_gp.html > >I got knocked out in turn one by some moron who went on to blow his engine >after one lap! If you can't keep your car together for more than one lap why >are you joining a full length race? Just to ruin my day, I guess. > > >Don McCorkle >

That sucks, Don. It would have been fun to race against(most likely way behind) you... I don't think anybody read the server comments. I noticed that M. Leipold bailed after my warning that it was a long race - be careful. Even Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad didn't realize it was a GP race until right before the start. Maybe next time I'll change the server name to reflect a GP race. Open question to those who participated(in this and other GP races): Should the next race be passworded? Let me know your thoughts on this. Feel free to e-mail me personally if you'd rather not make public comments...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad) writes:

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>After Warringas crash, it was lonely in the lead, and I was lucky to >finish. Twice I scraped paint of the armoco in lesmo, and twice I >entered the sand outside Parabolica, once almost getting stuck in the >hedge. > >And my chair which doesn't seem too bad in pro short races was giving >me some pain... > >My first full length GPL race, and I'm already addicted. When's the >next race? :-)

Lovely - you hit the kitty litter twice, and I *still* couldn't catch you?!?<sigh> :-) I haven't decided when the next one is. Probably some time in May. The track will be Mexico, though. I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of the real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <UGNx6.25986$[email hidden]>, "David Erb" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Splendid racing though from my point of view. Started from back of >pack,avoiding the initial few incidents in the first 1/2 dozen laps and went >on to get as high as 2nd before my engine melted a piston 6 miserable laps >from the end (sniff). Still not a bad run for a Honda. Noticed there was >this Pickett guy that was starting to overhaul me quite rapidly towards the >end. Oddly enough he claims to be slow! While I certainly wouldn't call the >gentleman a sandbagger I think (with apologies to the Bard) that the racer >doth protest too much. :) Nice run Eldred, I think you would have caught me >anyway even without my engine trouble. Congrats to A. Bjxrnstad and RMS too >for making it all the way. >

Catching and *passing* are entirely two different things...<g> It was scary coming up on your smoking car in Ascari...(!) It was fun chasing you, though - once I got my concentration back. Driving around without seeing another car for most of the race doesn't help keep you sharp. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <yzOx6.662776$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> When Eldred the slow began his quest for speed, he could legitimately >'claim' >to be amoung the turtles of the GPL world. but now, even as he rose as a >champion >of the slow and downtrodden, he has moved beyond us mere sub-humans. He has >evolved into an almost alien level...not there yet...but certainly no longer >to be counted >amongst the slow of foot. >dave henrie

Great, now I've moved up the ladder to 'average'...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> On 02 Apr 2001 15:34:45 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >> I haven't decided when the next one is. Probably some time in May. The track >> will be Mexico, though. >> I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of the >> real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> > > Good idea, I'm in! :) > > Andre >

You're both nutters! That track is sheer boredom. But just for the record, when is it? And something completely different: In 5 EGPs there have been 5 different winners, 20 people in the points, and only 2 winners have scored points in other races... Based on modern F1 points and disregarding the 80% rule, the top drivers are: 1) Jan Vershueren - 26 (Slow but sure) 2) Eldred Pickett - 16 (Win is surely in the cards) 3) Andr� Warringa - 12 (Mr. Speed) 4) Carlo Kleijngeld - 10 (One hit wonder) 4) Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad - 10 (One hit wonder) 4) Jens Kruuse - 10 (One hit wonder) 7) Roger Squires - 7 (Three top 6 finishes!) 8) Don McCorkle - 6 (R. Schumacher clone) 8) Jari Paavola - 6 /Jens

Eldred- Looks like neither of us got enough IMS this past week. I was just lamenting how far off the next Indy race is for our league. I havent watched a full 500 from start to finish in many years, so driving GPL during this years race is a great idea. Any way to figure out how to get the full 500? Maybe someone knows a secret hack.. This series is perfect for me cause i love the mix of ovals and road courses. I have been waiting to get into Nascar4 till a patch comes out and most of the newbies can get decent. Now i'm under the impression that GPL oval racing may be better than N4. Anyway, please count me in for the race if you host it. lance EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > (Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad) writes: > > >After Warringas crash, it was lonely in the lead, and I was lucky to > >finish. Twice I scraped paint of the armoco in lesmo, and twice I > >entered the sand outside Parabolica, once almost getting stuck in the > >hedge. > > > >And my chair which doesn't seem too bad in pro short races was giving > >me some pain... > > > >My first full length GPL race, and I'm already addicted. When's the > >next race? :-) > > Lovely - you hit the kitty litter twice, and I *still* couldn't catch > you?!?<sigh> > :-) > > I haven't decided when the next one is. Probably some time in May. The track > will be Mexico, though. > I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of the > real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > I don't think anybody read the server comments. I noticed that M. Leipold > bailed after my warning that it was a long race - be careful. I think he raced for a while, but crashed out early. > Even Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad didn't realize it was a GP race until right > before the start. Maybe next time I'll change the server name to > reflect a GP race. Wouldn't have helped me, I was just looking for a quick monza sprint (Hence the Lotus, which I normally don't drive even for short races.) If the next race is Mexico I don't think it will be an issue. > Open question to those who participated(in this and other GP races): > Should the next race be passworded? Let me know your thoughts on > this. Feel free to e-mail me personally if you'd rather not make > public comments...<g> Hmm, I can understand why you want it to, but it would have prevented me to participate in this weekends race, so I can't say I'm too thrilled. :-) From what I saw everybody was careful at the start, but there may have been more going on further back. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

[email hidden] (EldredP) writes:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > (Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad) writes: > > >After Warringas crash, it was lonely in the lead, and I was lucky to > >finish. Twice I scraped paint of the armoco in lesmo, and twice I > >entered the sand outside Parabolica, once almost getting stuck in the > >hedge. > > > >And my chair which doesn't seem too bad in pro short races was giving > >me some pain... > > > >My first full length GPL race, and I'm already addicted. When's the > >next race? :-) > > Lovely - you hit the kitty litter twice, and I *still* couldn't catch > you?!?<sigh> > :-)

:-) I had about a 30 sec lead at the moment. I think Erb was on second. And I just rolled over it once, barely stopping. > I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of the > real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> "What's the big deal, it's just 4 left turns." -Jack Brabham ?? I unfortunally don't have the converted tracks, so I'm out. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

Trust me no one ever reads the comments. The F3UMCServer has F3 in its name and it is mentioned 2 other times in the line, but I always have people joining. I keep waiting for the question, "Why does my car only have 4 gears?" or "Where are all my setups?" or "Why is my car so slow?" I would go with a special chat room and discuss the password in there prior to racing. You could make a EGP Chat room. I need to locate another computer to setup as a server so we could maybe have a dedicated full GP server. Wish I would have had time to join you this weekend as I would have maybe given Eldred someone to see :-) maybe, Even though he is still faster than me. Can I bring my F3 car to the Mexico Race :-) hahahaha. For some reason the F1 cars are just way too fast now. SLG [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I don't think anybody read the server comments. I noticed that M. Leipold >bailed after my warning that it was a long race - be careful. Even Asbj�rn >Bj�rnstad didn't realize it was a GP race until right before the start. Maybe >next time I'll change the server name to reflect a GP race. > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

>The F3UMCServer has F3 in its > name and it is mentioned 2 other times in the line, but I always have > people joining... You should have stayed in that F3 ring race last night SG. Bruce's new lotus cockpit made it great fun! Only a 9:53 tho, couple spins :) rms [email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Steve Garrotto) writes: >Trust me no one ever reads the comments. The F3UMCServer has F3 in its >name and it is mentioned 2 other times in the line, but I always have >people joining. I keep waiting for the question, "Why does my car only >have 4 gears?" or "Where are all my setups?" or "Why is my car so >slow?" >Hehe... Ok, no one reads the comments...<g>

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>I would go with a special chat room and discuss the password in there >prior to racing. You could make a EGP Chat room. I need to locate >another computer to setup as a server so we could maybe have a >dedicated full GP server. Wish I would have had time to join you this >weekend as I would have maybe given Eldred someone to see :-) maybe, >Even though he is still faster than me. Can I bring my F3 car to the >Mexico Race :-) hahahaha. For some reason the F1 cars are just way too >fast now.

Dedicated server? As in one that loops GP races, or as one that we can use anytime we want? If it's the former, I don't think people would run them on a daily basis. If it's the latter, I'll let you in on a secret... I run *3* servers... I can use them anytime I want....<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yes, I know about your servers, and I realize that a dedicated server for GP races would maybe get less use than the F3 server does now, but . . . why not! :-) Can you amagine how many would join get 5 laps in and wonder what the pit board meant when it said X more laps to go! Would have to call it the FullGrandPrixRaceServerLONGYouNoWantToRaceHereIfYouNoWantToBeHereForHours.Server SLG

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> >Dedicated server? As in one that loops GP races, or as one that we can use >anytime we want? If it's the former, I don't think people would run them on a >daily basis. If it's the latter, I'll let you in on a secret... >I run *3* servers... I can use them anytime I want....<g> > >Eldred > >-- >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

In article <[email hidden]>, "Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Andre Warringa wrote: > >> On 02 Apr 2001 15:34:45 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >> >>> I haven't decided when the next one is. Probably some time in May. The >track >>> will be Mexico, though. >>> I just thought of something - anybody want to run Indy on the morning of >the >>> real race? We could only run 128 laps, though. The Indy *320*? <g> >> >> Good idea, I'm in! :) >> >> Andre >> >You're both nutters! That track is sheer boredom. >But just for the record, when is it?

*If* we run it, it would be the morning of the 500 - May 28th. I ran an 80 lap race Saturday night for my IICC league. Whew...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.