N4: how to survive a caution?

I know this has been a hot topic, but has anyone figured out how to survive a caution without getting black flagged? I pitted when the leaders didn't: black flag for passing under yellow. Okay, so I go slower next time. I didn't pit when the leaders did: the spotter's telling me to pass the 99 at the front of the field, but stay behind the 113 at the back of the field. Meanwhile, he tells me to let them by as I get spun out by the 40. Another black flag for passing under yellow. I'm not trying to start a gripe fest about the AI. I just want to know how to jump through the hoops to get a passable single-player experience. -- Jon Willeke <j dot willeke at verizon dot net>

The ai is a known problem in many sims these days...Seems the more complex the behaivors they try and model, the worse it gets. As far as pitting, I haven't seen a black flag...just find your guy to follow and use the right view to make sure your behind him when you drop down to the apron. Once you hit pitlane, you can ignore his position. Now, just so I'm clear, You do know there are times you CANNOT pit right? Usually first lap after a yellow you have to stay out...If you are not on the lead lap you have to wait still another lap before pitting...sorry if thats a basic but at least it will remove those questions. dave henrie "Jon Willeke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I know this has been a hot topic, but has anyone figured out how to > survive a caution without getting black flagged? > > I pitted when the leaders didn't: black flag for passing under yellow. > Okay, so I go slower next time. > > I didn't pit when the leaders did: the spotter's telling me to pass > the 99 at the front of the field, but stay behind the 113 at the back > of the field. Meanwhile, he tells me to let them by as I get spun out > by the 40. Another black flag for passing under yellow. > > I'm not trying to start a gripe fest about the AI. I just want to > know how to jump through the hoops to get a passable single-player > experience. > -- > Jon Willeke <j dot willeke at verizon dot net>

Today in an offline at Texas, 2 cars collided when 1 pulled out of the pits and ran into the other. cars crashed, I swerved into the grass to avoid them. I got a penalty... I know the rules are the rules, but when there's trouble, it should go out the window... :) On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:06:33 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> The ai is a known problem in many sims these days...Seems the more complex >the >behaivors they try and model, the worse it gets. As far as pitting, I >haven't seen a black >flag...just find your guy to follow and use the right view to make sure your >behind him when you drop down to the apron. Once you hit pitlane, you can >ignore his position. > Now, just so I'm clear, You do know there are times you CANNOT pit right? >Usually first lap after a yellow you have to stay out...If you are not on >the lead lap >you have to wait still another lap before pitting...sorry if thats a basic >but at least it >will remove those questions. >dave henrie >"Jon Willeke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I know this has been a hot topic, but has anyone figured out how to >> survive a caution without getting black flagged? >> >> I pitted when the leaders didn't: black flag for passing under yellow. >> Okay, so I go slower next time. >> >> I didn't pit when the leaders did: the spotter's telling me to pass >> the 99 at the front of the field, but stay behind the 113 at the back >> of the field. Meanwhile, he tells me to let them by as I get spun out >> by the 40. Another black flag for passing under yellow. >> >> I'm not trying to start a gripe fest about the AI. I just want to >> know how to jump through the hoops to get a passable single-player >> experience. >> -- >> Jon Willeke <j dot willeke at verizon dot net> >

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Yeah, the spotter tells me when the pits are open or closed, and he reminds me of whether I'm on the lead lap. I'll just keep studying those replays. I may have to abandon any semblance of pit strategy. The spotter gets so confused as to where I'm supposed to be. "Pass the 99 car." "Let him by!" "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> The ai is a known problem in many sims these days...Seems the more complex >the >behaivors they try and model, the worse it gets. As far as pitting, I >haven't seen a black >flag...just find your guy to follow and use the right view to make sure your >behind him when you drop down to the apron. Once you hit pitlane, you can >ignore his position. > Now, just so I'm clear, You do know there are times you CANNOT pit right? >Usually first lap after a yellow you have to stay out...If you are not on >the lead lap >you have to wait still another lap before pitting...sorry if thats a basic >but at least it >will remove those questions.

-- Jon Willeke <j dot willeke at verizon dot net>

hehe, I tried to do my first lengthy offline race today as well, and I had this exact thing happened at Texas! Cars were colliding everywhere on pit road, and I was stuck in the middle lane on pit road (not good) :-) The most frustrating thing that happened, was we were coming down to the green flag (after a caution), and the 5 cars in front of me decide to not accelerate at the green, so I have to stop so that I don't pass (and get a black flag for passing before the start/finish line), but all the cars behind me pass us before the s/f line and didn't get a black flag. Granted I was only running around 35th place at the time, but still...... "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Today in an offline at Texas, 2 cars collided when 1 pulled out of the > pits and ran into the other. cars crashed, I swerved into the grass > to avoid them. I got a penalty... > > I know the rules are the rules, but when there's trouble, it should go > out the window... :) > > On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:06:33 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > The ai is a known problem in many sims these days...Seems the more

complex > >the > >behaivors they try and model, the worse it gets. As far as pitting, I > >haven't seen a black > >flag...just find your guy to follow and use the right view to make sureyour > >behind him when you drop down to the apron. Once you hit pitlane, youcan > >ignore his position. > > Now, just so I'm clear, You do know there are times you CANNOT pitright? > >Usually first lap after a yellow you have to stay out...If you are not on > >the lead lap > >you have to wait still another lap before pitting...sorry if thats abasic

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> >but at least it > >will remove those questions. > >dave henrie > >"Jon Willeke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> I know this has been a hot topic, but has anyone figured out how to > >> survive a caution without getting black flagged? > >> > >> I pitted when the leaders didn't: black flag for passing under yellow. > >> Okay, so I go slower next time. > >> > >> I didn't pit when the leaders did: the spotter's telling me to pass > >> the 99 at the front of the field, but stay behind the 113 at the back > >> of the field. Meanwhile, he tells me to let them by as I get spun out > >> by the 40. Another black flag for passing under yellow. > >> > >> I'm not trying to start a gripe fest about the AI. I just want to > >> know how to jump through the hoops to get a passable single-player > >> experience. > >> -- > >> Jon Willeke <j dot willeke at verizon dot net> > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

"doubleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9aa7kc$mmv$[email hidden]... > hehe, I tried to do my first lengthy offline race today as well, and I had > this exact thing happened at Texas! Cars were colliding everywhere on pit > road, and I was stuck in the middle lane on pit road (not good) :-) I forgot to mention that I had applied the 'fix' that is available at theuspits.com it is NOT perfect, it is not final but temporary until Papy gets their act together. it helps...doesn't solve everything but helps. dave henrie > > The most frustrating thing that happened, was we were coming down to the > green flag (after a caution), and the 5 cars in front of me decide to not > accelerate at the green, so I have to stop so that I don't pass (and get a > black flag for passing before the start/finish line), but all the cars > behind me pass us before the s/f line and didn't get a black flag.Granted

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> I was only running around 35th place at the time, but still...... > > "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Today in an offline at Texas, 2 cars collided when 1 pulled out of the > > pits and ran into the other. cars crashed, I swerved into the grass > > to avoid them. I got a penalty... > > > > I know the rules are the rules, but when there's trouble, it should go > > out the window... :)