Couple More "Ops Questions" for N4

Hi guys.... I have a couple more ops/race setup questions for N4: Player Mechanical Failures: The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a setting (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changing this doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you set Player Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers? MP - Total Player Limits: I set this during the process of setting up the DS.....next to each "allow connection" type. If I set this for 10 players, it shows up on Sierra.com as 21 players (max). If I set it at 12....it shows up as 25 players (max). Am I doing something wrong....is there another place I need to set this limit as well as in the connection type settings? Is this a known bug? If so, which number is actually being applied? Thanks for the info, Tom PS: Surely Dave Henrie knows all this stuff?

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qUSz6.2190$[email hidden]...

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> Hi guys.... > > I have a couple more ops/race setup questions for N4: > > Player Mechanical Failures: > The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I > don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a

setting > (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changingthis > doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you setPlayer > Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers? funny you should ask...I 'think' I just skimmed that post from Eric B over at the simracing.org server. I 'beleive' the option for mechanical failures was not included in the final release..the box is still there but it is not implemented. > > MP - Total Player Limits: > I set this during the process of setting up the DS.....next to each "allow > connection" type. If I set this for 10 players, it shows up on Sierra.com > as 21 players (max). If I set it at 12....it shows up as 25 players(max). > Am I doing something wrong....is there another place I need to set this > limit as well as in the connection type settings? Is this a known bug?If > so, which number is actually being applied? I did the math twice...came out ok here...:) dave henrie

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> > Thanks for the info, > > Tom > > PS: Surely Dave Henrie knows all this stuff? > > >

Tom Pabst wrote:

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> Hi guys.... > > I have a couple more ops/race setup questions for N4: > > Player Mechanical Failures: > The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I > don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a

setting > (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changingthis > doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you setPlayer > Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers? This, according to a certain Mr. Busch, is a feature that was dropped. The piccy in the manual is from an earlier build. ed_

In article <qUSz6.2190$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Hi guys.... > > I have a couple more ops/race setup questions for N4: > > Player Mechanical Failures: > The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I > don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a setting > (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changing this > doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you set Player > Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers?

According to Eric Busch, this setting has no effect, but I think you may have already read that.

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> MP - Total Player Limits: > I set this during the process of setting up the DS.....next to each "allow > connection" type. If I set this for 10 players, it shows up on Sierra.com > as 21 players (max). If I set it at 12....it shows up as 25 players (max). > Am I doing something wrong....is there another place I need to set this > limit as well as in the connection type settings? Is this a known bug? If > so, which number is actually being applied?

I think you have to make this seting in the [Dedicated Server] section. For some strange reason, Papy has 4 or 5 sections in the player.ini that contain similar (if not exactly the same) data. It would have been much eaiser to understand if they had only one section containing the same setting with additional sections containing the unique stuff. I'll be the first to admit that probably the last thing that goes through a programmers mind is whether or not the organization of the associated INI files makes sense to anyone but me. Lately though, it's become more imporatnant to make sure a given ini file is organized well so that I know where to find my app's data. Trying to write DeMONS/2 is a minor-to-moderate nightmare where understanding the player.ini is concerned. You'll be happy to here that the DeMONS/2 launcher is about 80% finished. Once that's done, I'll be writing a "local" host configuration utility that will smooth out setting up the dedicated servers. This should make the lives of all the server admins easier until the rest of DeMONS/2 (race client, remote admin/configuration, host monitor, and chat) is finshed. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

In article <kIWz6.5427$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> > Tom Pabst wrote: > > Hi guys.... > > > > I have a couple more ops/race setup questions for N4: > > > > Player Mechanical Failures: > > The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I > > don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a > setting > > (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changing > this > > doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you set > Player > > Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers? > > This, according to a certain Mr. Busch, is a feature that was dropped. The > piccy in the manual is from an earlier build. > > ed_ >

The setting is in the player.ini file though (in half a dozen places). That's why there's some confusion. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Random mechanical failures were never implemented. Remember the max_players setting is device specific, so if you have TCP/IP set to 10 and IPX set to 10 with both enabled, that's a total of 20 allowed connections. If you only want to allow 10 connections and want to use both TCP/IP and IPX, first decide how you want the connections split up, and then change the number of allowed connections for each device (for example, you might want to allow just a single local IPX connection and have the other 9 as TCP/IP connections via sierra.com). -- Eric "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qUSz6.2190$[email hidden]... > Player Mechanical Failures: > The manual shows a checkbox under the Damage setting scroll down box....I > don't have this (in any of the 5 N4's I have installed). There is a setting > (default looks like it is "0") in the Player.ini text file....changing this > doesn't make the "box" show up. Is this a known bug? How do you set Player > Mechanical Failures? How does this work for MP...Dedicated Servers? > > MP - Total Player Limits: > I set this during the process of setting up the DS.....next to each "allow > connection" type. If I set this for 10 players, it shows up on Sierra.com > as 21 players (max). If I set it at 12....it shows up as 25 players (max). > Am I doing something wrong....is there another place I need to set this > limit as well as in the connection type settings? Is this a known bug? If > so, which number is actually being applied?

The game has multiple modes (testing, single race, championship season, multiplayer host, dedicated server, etc.) which all have similar (if not exactly the same) options, and by separating the INI each mode is able to have it's own unique set of independently stored options. That way when you change race options in single player without having it affect your previously selected multiplayer race options. -- Eric "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I think you have to make this seting in the [Dedicated Server] section. > For some strange reason, Papy has 4 or 5 sections in the player.ini that > contain similar (if not exactly the same) data. It would have been much > eaiser to understand if they had only one section containing the same > setting with additional sections containing the unique stuff.

Damn. That answer actually makes sense... :-) I thought I had you that time, Eric... :-) In article <9aqla1$ceb$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> The game has multiple modes (testing, single race, championship season, > multiplayer host, dedicated server, etc.) which all have similar (if not > exactly the same) options, and by separating the INI each mode is able to > have it's own unique set of independently stored options. That way when you > change race options in single player without having it affect your > previously selected multiplayer race options. > > -- > Eric > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I think you have to make this seting in the [Dedicated Server] section. > > For some strange reason, Papy has 4 or 5 sections in the player.ini that > > contain similar (if not exactly the same) data. It would have been much > > eaiser to understand if they had only one section containing the same > > setting with additional sections containing the unique stuff. > > >

-- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Thanks Eric....and it makes total sense. TP

Thank you once again Eric.....that makes total sense as well. I wasn't thinking about IPX "driver allowances" being added to the TCP/IP ones. I also didn't realize (since I'm the IPX driver...and in the race)....that Sierra.com would display me as in the IPX race...while the other drivers are in the TCP/IP race...even though they are one in the same race. Does this mean that if I connected via IPX/local LAN.....even though I utilized the Sierra.com display.....that' I'm not part of the Internet upside bandwidth? Tom