Looking for a Backhoe Simulator

Hi, does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... Any suggestions welcome! Franz

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz > >

lol I think you better look at rec.backhoe.simulators.

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >Any suggestions welcome! Do I even want to know what a 'backhoe' or 'power shovel' is? Sounds like nasty Swedish sexdevices.. Andre >Franz > >

Look for "Backhoe HEAT" in Q4 2001 -- we'll start work on that as soon as we make it through the final release of CART Heat and IRL Heat! Or maybe not . . . ;-) -- JB On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi, > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >Any suggestions welcome! > >Franz > >

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >Any suggestions welcome! There's your first mistake, that brings out the smart-asses. :) I think there is/was some Tonka Construction game (they even have/had a special controller for it) that might fit the bill, but I don't know anything more about it. "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Rumour has it that the West brothers are working on WBH (World Back Hoe) for release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather construction and internet digging for large construction projects. Add-ons will include: Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. Different shovel sizes pneumatic drill heads Hydraulic breakdowns Port-a-johns "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Look for "Backhoe HEAT" in Q4 2001 -- we'll start work on that as soon > as we make it through the final release of CART Heat and IRL Heat! > > Or maybe not . . . > > ;-) > > -- JB > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > > >Any suggestions welcome! > > > >Franz > > > > >

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> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > > >Any suggestions welcome! > > There's your first mistake, that brings out the smart-asses. :) > > I think there is/was some Tonka Construction game (they even > have/had a special controller for it) that might fit the bill, but I > don't know anything more about it. >

Never mind about a backhoe simulator, what about a forklift truck simulator? With the steering wheels at the back they are great fun to drive, and whizzing round in a circle raising the forks to the correct level at the same time is quite a skill. Mmm, can't wait. I think I'll go and lie down for a bit... -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +8.59 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

Yep there is Matchbox Caterpillar Construction Zone by Mattell it comes with a controller that fits over your keyboard and my 4 year old loves it !!!! It is aimed at kids though. Regards Mike On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi, > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >Any suggestions welcome! > >Franz >

But will it include the Great Case Model 580H Backhoe with 4 wheel drive. And will anyone be making some Track hoe Addons like the Komatsu Track hoe with a single stick and foot pedals? Dave Art McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote in article <9av6v6$vek$[email hidden]>... > Rumour has it that the West brothers are working on WBH (World Back Hoe)for

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> release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather > construction and internet digging for large construction projects. > > Add-ons will include: > > Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. > Different shovel sizes > pneumatic drill heads > Hydraulic breakdowns > Port-a-johns > > > "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Look for "Backhoe HEAT" in Q4 2001 -- we'll start work on that as soon > > as we make it through the final release of CART Heat and IRL Heat! > > > > Or maybe not . . . > > > > ;-) > > > > -- JB > > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > > >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > > > > >Any suggestions welcome! > > > > > >Franz > > > > > > > > > > >

That does sound good, but it's going to take more than Port-o-johns to dethrone Backhoe Legends as the top backhoe simulator. On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:52:55 -0400, "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Rumour has it that the West brothers are working on WBH (World Back Hoe) for >release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather >construction and internet digging for large construction projects. > >Add-ons will include: > > Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. > Different shovel sizes > pneumatic drill heads > Hydraulic breakdowns > Port-a-johns > > >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Look for "Backhoe HEAT" in Q4 2001 -- we'll start work on that as soon >> as we make it through the final release of CART Heat and IRL Heat! >> >> Or maybe not . . . >> >> ;-) >> >> -- JB >> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >> >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >> > >> >Any suggestions welcome! >> > >> >Franz >> > >> > >> > >

I heard BPL (Backhoe Prix Legends) was was great but prove to be too much for some with its advanced physics. "franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz > >

My spotter keep on telling me to "keep digging"... So.. if you find anything useful - let me know.... so I can practice! ed_

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> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > > >Any suggestions welcome! > > > >Franz > > >

Well... it better have 6 degrees of freedom, or else it's probalby just some piece of sh....! :-) ed_ "Mike Blackmore wrote:... > Yep there is Matchbox Caterpillar Construction Zone by Mattell it > comes with a controller that fits over your keyboard.... <snip!>

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz > >

My God, a complete untapped genre here! It seems a natural for Tonka to get into the software publishing business with. I will immediately ditch my plans for an open source racing sim to tackle this virgin territory with a vast commercial market. KFG

And don't forget "Spirit of Dirt 1937." Noted for its lush painterly graphics and loving recreation of the heavy equipment of yesteryear, it required a special configuration utility just to get the bucket into the ground.... On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:56:41 -0500, "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I heard BPL (Backhoe Prix Legends) was >was great but prove to be too much for some with its advanced physics. > >"franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> Hi, >> >> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >> >> Any suggestions welcome! >> >> Franz >> >> > >

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That does sound good, but it's going to take more than Port-o-johns to > dethrone Backhoe Legends as the top backhoe simulator. > And don't forget the upcoming Officially Licenced " Mike Mulligan and his Steamshovel" product, for those that are into the truely classic age. KFG

SoD1937 did work very well once you got your controller properly configured -- so good, in fact, that I actually ordered the full version. Still waiting for Software First to deliver, though. :-( Speaking of oldies, has everybody completely forgotten about "Need For Dirt: Backhoe Unleashed"???? NFDBU was a TON of fun with a highly underrated physics model -- I've still got it installed, and I occasionally run laps just for fun. GREAT sim! -- JB On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:07:50 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>And don't forget "Spirit of Dirt 1937." Noted for >its lush painterly graphics and loving recreation >of the heavy equipment of yesteryear, it required >a special configuration utility just to get the >bucket into the ground.... > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:56:41 -0500, "Morris Jones" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>I heard BPL (Backhoe Prix Legends) was >>was great but prove to be too much for some with its advanced physics. >> >>"franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >>> Hi, >>> >>> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >>> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >>> >>> Any suggestions welcome! >>> >>> Franz >>> >>> >> >> > > >Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Drop that bucket once you've reached 100+ mph and you would throw up some serious rooster tails, chicken bones, and whatever else was buried in your path :) "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> SoD1937 did work very well once you got your controller properly > configured -- so good, in fact, that I actually ordered the full > version. Still waiting for Software First to deliver, though. :-( > > Speaking of oldies, has everybody completely forgotten about "Need For > Dirt: Backhoe Unleashed"???? NFDBU was a TON of fun with a highly > underrated physics model -- I've still got it installed, and I > occasionally run laps just for fun. GREAT sim! > > -- JB > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:07:50 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > >And don't forget "Spirit of Dirt 1937." Noted for > >its lush painterly graphics and loving recreation > >of the heavy equipment of yesteryear, it required > >a special configuration utility just to get the > >bucket into the ground.... > > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:56:41 -0500, "Morris Jones" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>I heard BPL (Backhoe Prix Legends) was > >>was great but prove to be too much for some with its advanced physics. > >> > >>"franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > >>> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >>> > >>> Any suggestions welcome! > >>> > >>> Franz > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce.... > >

Hasbro's ill-fated Backhoe! When Backhoe! was released, it won high praise for its graphics (some say the best in the biz), but a faulty survey sytem coupled with unrealistic hydraulics proved to be too much for their lack of funding an interest in continuing in the genre. They also immediately cancelled their upcoming Steamroller! without notice, leaving many fans in the dust. franzf wrote:

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200, franzf <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > >Any suggestions welcome Will there be a movie maybe Days of Backhoes or maybe a comdey Blazing Backhoes

"> Will there be a movie maybe Days of Backhoes or maybe a comdey > Blazing Backhoes I think I saw that last one...before the days of video tape!!! dave henrie >

Check out Tonka "Dig'n Rigs" by Hasbro-Interactive. My 3 year old loves it. Even comes with a steering wheel and throttle. Very Cool. :) BTW, I'm not joking. ChrisP

LOL! ROTFPP!!! On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:30:24 +1000, "Ben Coleman" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>You can see the shorts at: > >www.backhoemotorsport.com > >Ben > >Dave Henrie wrote in message ... >> >>"> Will there be a movie maybe Days of Backhoes or maybe a comdey >>> Blazing Backhoes >> I think I saw that last one...before the days of video tape!!! >>dave henrie >>> >> >> > >

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz > >

Shit I just did a search and there are heaps of them http://www.ee.ubc.ca/home/staff/faculty/tims/etc/www/virtual_excavator.html

"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That does sound good, but it's going to take more than Port-o-johns to > dethrone Backhoe Legends as the top backhoe simulator. Too true John, could quite easily end up being just another Backhoe precision digging

On 11 Apr 2001 02:09:45 GMT, [email hidden] (CPDRKITEKT) wrote: wasnt there a bulldozer in the original simcity. you could clear forests & destroy roads and stuff. never liked simcity versions after that so don't know if they have added more similar vehicles. there, a truly helpful answer :) *grin* btw, thanks for all the in-jokes. r.a.s. is getting funnier by the day. its nice to see we don't have anally retented folk swatting the offtopic wickedness :) hey dave h, didn't Papyrus start a Backhoe sim and then the lead programmer was abducted or something? Personally, i think Ford bought the rights to the game to prevent competition to ford simulator... mmmm. the thick plottens. regards all, ian

"T.Galvin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]...

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> > Hi, > > > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > > > Any suggestions welcome! > > > > Franz > > > > > > Shit I just did a search and there are heaps of them > >

http://www.ee.ubc.ca/home/staff/faculty/tims/etc/www/virtual_excavator.html > > Now you've gone and ruined everthing Phbbbbt! KFG

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>That does sound good, but it's going to take more than Port-o-johns to >dethrone Backhoe Legends as the top backhoe simulator. > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:52:55 -0400, "Art McEwen" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Rumour has it that the West brothers are working on WBH (World Back Hoe) for >>release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather >>construction and internet digging for large construction projects. >> >>Add-ons will include: >> >> Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. >> Different shovel sizes >> pneumatic drill heads >> Hydraulic breakdowns >> Port-a-johns

But it will STILL sell better than BHL(Backhoe Legends). People just aren't interested in historical construction equipment. I bet BHL is a finacial flop. At the very least, it will outsell Swamp Buggy Racing... <ducking...> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <QdGA6.24078$[email hidden]>, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes: >My God, a complete untapped genre here! It seems a natural for Tonka to get >into the software publishing business with. > >I will immediately ditch my plans ...pun intended?<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

This is so funny I can't find emoticons on it. Let it speak for itself. -Gregor Ben Coleman wrote:

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> > You can see the shorts at: > > www.backhoemotorsport.com > > Ben >

Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> Hi, >> >> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >> >> Any suggestions welcome! >> > My God, a complete untapped genre here! It seems a natural for Tonka to get > into the software publishing business with. > I will immediately ditch my plans for an open source racing sim to tackle > this virgin territory with a vast commercial market.

Hey, I really dig this idea. We must get Kaemmer & co to create the game, because we all know an inferior crew would just soil the project. With an accurate physical model, a rock-solid support for multiplayer excavations, extensive setup options, pit strategies and all, it'll be a certain hit. +Cinquo

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:28:31 +0800, "T.Galvin" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> Hi, >> >> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >> >> Any suggestions welcome! >> >> Franz >> >> > >Shit I just did a search and there are heaps of them > >http://www.ee.ubc.ca/home/staff/faculty/tims/etc/www/virtual_excavator.html

I figured someone would be able to dig something up on this . . .

" > Hey, I really dig this idea. We must get Kaemmer & co to create the game, > because we all know an inferior crew would just soil the project. With > an accurate physical model, a rock-solid support for multiplayer > excavations, extensive setup options, pit strategies and all, it'll be > a certain hit. can I use DYNOMITE???huhhuh???canI???? dave henrie > > > > +Cinquo >

I think Hasbro came out with the "Barbie Backhoe Contruction" game where you could choose the color of the backhoe, the style of Barbie's hair, and the matching clothes she would wear as she would do things such as dig a hole for her backyard swimming pool with Ken. Make sure you install the 2.2.1 patch available on Hasbro's website to fix CTD when you tried to runover Ken. Also, if you're a Geforce user, you must install detonator driver 8.0 or higher to get the program to work. It is also on Nvidia's T&L enabled games list. (I get 42 fps in digdemo1.dm2) on my V5 with 4XFSAA. It's too difficult to operate with just a mouse so I recommend the HOPAL (Hands On Pedals And Levers) control device made by Saitek. -Tim "franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator > for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Franz > >

Tim, Will my CH pedals work with the Saitek HOPAL system? Also, does Hasbro's BBC support split axis? If not, then I would challenge their claim that it's a "sim." -- JB On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:30:57 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I think Hasbro came out with the "Barbie Backhoe Contruction" game where you >could choose the color of the backhoe, the style of Barbie's hair, and the >matching clothes she would wear as she would do things such as dig a hole >for her backyard swimming pool with Ken. Make sure you install the 2.2.1 >patch available on Hasbro's website to fix CTD when you tried to runover >Ken. Also, if you're a Geforce user, you must install detonator driver 8.0 >or higher to get the program to work. It is also on Nvidia's T&L enabled >games list. (I get 42 fps in digdemo1.dm2) on my V5 with 4XFSAA. > >It's too difficult to operate with just a mouse so I recommend the HOPAL >(Hands On Pedals And Levers) control device made by Saitek. > >-Tim > > >"franzf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> Hi, >> >> does anybody know if there's a power shovel or backhoe simulator >> for PCs around? I'd love to do some digging ... >> >> Any suggestions welcome! >> >> Franz >> >> > >

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 05:30:11 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote: Found this after getting the link in another thread(Revs) http://216.240.130.113/Cars/carinfo.asp?CarID=Backhoe It's a backhoe model for Revolt. *smiles* Ian

Rumor has it that BHL has a the best digging physics engine. But I'm sure some ( like one whose initials are David Fisher ) will find it too challenging and criticize all who praise it. Marty EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John > Bodin) writes: > > >That does sound good, but it's going to take more than Port-o-johns to > >dethrone Backhoe Legends as the top backhoe simulator. > > > > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:52:55 -0400, "Art McEwen" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>Rumour has it that the West brothers are working on WBH (World Back Hoe) for > >>release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather > >>construction and internet digging for large construction projects. > >> > >>Add-ons will include: > >> > >> Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. > >> Different shovel sizes > >> pneumatic drill heads > >> Hydraulic breakdowns > >> Port-a-johns > > But it will STILL sell better than BHL(Backhoe Legends). People just aren't > interested in historical construction equipment. I bet BHL is a finacial flop. > At the very least, it will outsell Swamp Buggy Racing... > <ducking...> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Nah GPL is a very effective Backhoe Similator. If you do not believe me I will send you a replay of a silverstone race I ran. I was constantly digging myself into a deeper and deeper hole as the laps went on. Infact if it was real life I would have dug a shallow grave twice in turn one, and a in turn 4 there. Dave Marty U'Ren <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>... > Rumor has it that BHL has a the best digging physics engine. But I'm suresome ( > like one whose initials are David Fisher ) will find it too challengingand

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> > At the very least, it will outsell Swamp Buggy Racing... > > <ducking...> > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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Last I heard, Nascar Revolution had the best Back-Hoe Physics... -Larry "Marty U'Ren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Rumor has it that BHL has a the best digging physics engine. But I'm suresome ( > like one whose initials are David Fisher ) will find it too challengingand

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> > >>release Q2 of 2005 that will simulate night digging, wet weather > > >>construction and internet digging for large construction projects. > > >> > > >>Add-ons will include: > > >> > > >> Water and natural gas mains and phone lines. > > >> Different shovel sizes > > >> pneumatic drill heads > > >> Hydraulic breakdowns > > >> Port-a-johns > > > > But it will STILL sell better than BHL(Backhoe Legends). People just

aren't > > interested in historical construction equipment. I bet BHL is afinacial flop.

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> > At the very least, it will outsell Swamp Buggy Racing... > > <ducking...> > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >