GPL 2 Wishlist

Hi, In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?

I think just GETTING a GPL 2 will make me happy :)

I think if we see cars from like 1975 or something... or at least be able to drive cars like the 6 wheeled Tyrrell... drivers like James Hunt and young Niki Lauda.. that sort of thing... some of the tracks would still be there (Nurburgring) and such.. Brands Hatch.. more tracks in a year! maybe a full version of Monza including the banking... I don't think much needs improving over the old GPL.. it's an awesome game.. I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the "Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few ideas... <fluffypony> Ulrich Diedrichsen wrote:

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> > Hi, > > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! > > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?

THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A GPL 2. If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it - would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way. Didn't think so Doug "Ulrich Diedrichsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9avnds$7iv$05$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! > > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ? > > >

If you talking about graphics or sound in GPL I guess you havent got all the addons yet...yes or no? Between all the GPL sites, GPLEA is just one, you have so many upgrades you can do!!! Just ask around. Thom_j. "fluffypony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... <snipped | I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the | faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the | "Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few | ideas... | | <fluffypony><snipped again>

You're probably right, but did you have to be quite so pedantic about it? -We've already been told GPL was no great commercial success many times, thank you. The point is I and many others have a copy and are still enjoying it. I would have liked the authors to have done well off it, but the general concensus is they didn't. Whether this procludes a sequel has neither been officially confirmed or denied. It's unlikely, but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one if they could somehow sell the idea. Even with this reality check out of the way, I don't think it would hurt anybody to discuss what extra features/improvements/cars/era people would like to see. In absense of a sequel the GPL .exe is eventually going to be hacked beyond recognition, so IMO a little inspiration might be a positive thing. Take a happy pill or something... sheesh!! Jan. =--- Douglas Ellison wrote...

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> THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A GPL 2. > > If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to > loose ALL of it - would you invest the remaining $5,000 > in exactly the same way. > > > Didn't think so > > Doug

Sadly Doug, I feel you are right in your concept.. I think in Sierra's eyes the sim/game GPL was a financial flop for them and they will go no further with anymore of a $money$ loss! Many love GPL to death {as I do.} but when it comes to a final decision from Sierra for a GPL2. I don't think it will ever be? Sorry guyz but Sierra will only look at only the $numbers$ gained and alwayz chalk up $dollars$ lost as "old news" aka "a bad venture". "sad but true"........Cheers Thom_j. "Douglas Ellison" <mailbox@##spam##douglasellison.co.uk> wrote in message news:kWLA6.2800$[email hidden]...

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| THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A GPL 2. | | If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it - | would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way. | | | Didn't think so | | Doug | | | | "Ulrich Diedrichsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:9avnds$7iv$05$[email hidden]... | > Hi, | > | > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! | > | > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but | > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ? | > | > | > | |

I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one" The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something? So as urself I'd love to see another but it would be a new project with new developers.. There are many on in this NG who can verify this & might but many wont say a word..Right? <g> and to be honest I dont blame them..lol Cheers Thom_j. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | You're probably right, but did you have to be quite so pedantic about | it? -We've already been told GPL was no great commercial success manytimes, | thank you. | | The point is I and many others have a copy and are still enjoying it. I | would have liked the authors to have done well off it, but the general | concensus is they didn't. Whether this procludes a sequel has neither been | officially confirmed or denied. It's unlikely, but I'm sure theprogramming

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| team would like to do another one if they could somehow sell the idea. | | Even with this reality check out of the way, I don't think it would hurt | anybody to discuss what extra features/improvements/cars/era people would | like to see. In absense of a sequel the GPL .exe is eventually going to be | hacked beyond recognition, so IMO a little inspiration might be a positive | thing. | Take a happy pill or something... sheesh!! | Jan.

That's a new one to me... You're saying Keammer and Cassidy are no longer working for Papyrus? That would complicate matters as they, obviously, would be legally bound not to use "Papyrus technology" within a certain timeframe... not to mention forming a team of programmers/betatester and finding a publisher. Like I said, unlikely, but using the money argument to attempt to stop a basically harmless discussion just hit all the wrong buttons with me. Jan. =--- Thom j. wrote... > > <snip>

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> Hi, > > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! > > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ? > > >

Pit stops, weather and an expanded range of tracks/cars from the 20's through the seventies. Fully developed lower classes complete with a 'career' mode. Other than that, with the add ons and graphics updates that people have made so far the damned thing is already nigh on perfect. KFG

Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers that developed GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still here at Papyrus. Randy Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LEMA6.38934$[email hidden]... > > I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you > state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one" > The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most > who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two > main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something?

As I said I maybe wrong Randy but I did remember you as one but wasn't there 2 others who were there from the start who started up their own Co. in New England named "Wolf" something? I'm sorry but I've 'forgotten' the complete name but I'm almost sure that sent me info right after they left from Papy..yes-no? Thom_j. "Randy Cassidy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9b0dva$t14$[email hidden]... | Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers thatdeveloped | GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both stillhere

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| at Papyrus. | | Randy | | Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:LEMA6.38934$[email hidden]... | > | > I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you | > state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one" | > The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most | > who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two | > main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something? | | |

>"Douglas Ellison" <mailbox@##spam##douglasellison.co.uk> wrote > If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it - > would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way. Well, they invested in a R&D project for a new game engine that turned 40,000 sales in the end and put N4 on top of the charts. Not bad! Now why not give us another 5k for a 1982/76/anything sequel ;-P Yeah I know I'm just teasing, GPL2 will only happen in our f dreams. The closest we will go is either an open-source sim or the constant updates to GPL. The thing is, just having a new car physics with let's say 1976 F1's would be enough. With all the quality tracks we have, we wouldn't want anything more. So you have Grand Prix, Advanced Trainee and Trainee, and now you would have hmm "76 Grand Prix" let's say ;-) No need for licensing, just create a basic vintage open-wheel car from the 70's for the physics. Create 5-6 small variants and give it to us. We'll create our own 3do's from that. That wouldn't be much, just a gift to all from Papyrus for it's 15th year anniversary ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> "Ulrich Diedrichsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9avnds$7iv$05$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! > > > > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but > > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ? > > Pit stops, weather and an expanded range of tracks/cars from the 20's > through the seventies. > > Fully developed lower classes complete with a 'career' mode. > > Other than that, with the add ons and graphics updates that people have made > so far the damned thing is already nigh on perfect.

There is one feature I miss, the ghost car mode. It's not realistic, but I think it would be a big advantage to learning the tracks, and could flatten the learning curve. And make the ghost car start half a second in front, so you're following it, instead of driving inside it. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

Papy is too late. WSC will not be a program it will be a Car Operating System. It will also have a monopoly just like Windows does. Us business majors call it the Early mover's advantage so if Papy could muster up a GPL 2 it wouldn't have the community support WSC will. You wouldn't be able to race GPL 2 cars against the hundreds of cars that will be available in WSC. Ever tried multitasking in DOS? "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:q6NA6.24579$[email hidden]...

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> > "Ulrich Diedrichsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9avnds$7iv$05$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! > > > > I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but > > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ? > > > > > > > > Pit stops, weather and an expanded range of tracks/cars from the 20's > through the seventies. > > Fully developed lower classes complete with a 'career' mode. > > Other than that, with the add ons and graphics updates that people have

made > so far the damned thing is already nigh on perfect. > > KFG > >

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:19:43 +0100, fluffypony <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I think if we see cars from like 1975 or something... or at least be >able to drive cars like the 6 wheeled Tyrrell... drivers like James Hunt >and young Niki Lauda.. that sort of thing... > >some of the tracks would still be there (Nurburgring) and such.. Brands >Hatch.. more tracks in a year! maybe a full version of Monza including >the banking... > >I don't think much needs improving over the old GPL.. it's an awesome >game.. I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the >faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the >"Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few >ideas...

Fluffy, bookmark this site http://www.noctua.f2s.com/links.html and visit all the GPL graphic addon sites. Visit 'Bruce's stuff' for much-improved faces, new suites, and all kinds of other great updates. (especially his just released Lotus is outstanding). Also visit the GPLEA site, JB Vikings site, GPL Addons site.. with all these updates, you won't reckognize GPL again. Now if someone would be able to make rain in GPL, we -have- our GPL2.. :) Andre

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> > <fluffypony> > > >Ulrich Diedrichsen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever ! >> >> I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but >> what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:02:57 -0400, "Randy Cassidy" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers that developed >GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still here >at Papyrus. > >Randy -phew- :) Andre

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>Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:LEMA6.38934$[email hidden]... >> >> I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you >> state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one" >> The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most >> who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two >> main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something? > > >

"Douglas Ellison" <mailbox@##spam##douglasellison.co.uk> wrote ...

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> THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A GPL 2. > > If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it - > would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way. > > > Didn't think so > > Doug

Well, not unless you're a gambler, then it would make perfect sense ;-) -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +8.59 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

Adam Levesque (designer/producer/GM) and John Wheeler (engineer) formed Blue Fang Games. Randy Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tlPA6.39200$[email hidden]... > As I said I maybe wrong Randy but I did remember you as one but > wasn't there 2 others who were there from the start who started up > their own Co. in New England named "Wolf" something? I'm sorry > but I've 'forgotten' the complete name but I'm almost sure that sent > me info right after they left from Papy..yes-no? > Thom_j.

On 11 Apr 2001 06:08:36 +0200, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad) wrote: >There is one feature I miss, the ghost car mode. >It's not realistic, but I think it would be a big advantage to >learning the tracks, and could flatten the learning curve. And >make the ghost car start half a second in front, so you're following >it, instead of driving inside it. Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :) And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the Ring, hehe. Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

In article <9b0dva$t14$[email hidden]>, Randy Cassidy <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers that developed >GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still here >at Papyrus. Whoah! This is what I want to see.. Randy Cassidy in a 'GPL 2' thread :-) If only the content went along the lines 'Yep, it's going gold next week', I'd be real happy :-) -Juha -- //[email hidden]

Re: 2 Randy They are the 2 Randy!! Dag I just couldnt remember their names nor the new company. Please let me make it clear that I wasnt trying to demean, offend or lower your Gpl status! {Top dog of GPL <g>} I was told that many of the originals had left.. No more, No less. So I hope you except my stupidity as just that, "Stupid!!" <g> Cheers By A Humbled Thom_j. "Randy Cassidy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9b1qjv$ekn$[email hidden]... | Adam Levesque (designer/producer/GM) and John Wheeler (engineer) formedBlue

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| Fang Games. | Randy | | Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:tlPA6.39200$[email hidden]... | > As I said I maybe wrong Randy but I did remember you as one but | > wasn't there 2 others who were there from the start who started up | > their own Co. in New England named "Wolf" something? I'm sorry | > but I've 'forgotten' the complete name but I'm almost sure that sent | > me info right after they left from Papy..yes-no? | > Thom_j.

> Whoah! This is what I want to see.. Randy Cassidy in a 'GPL 2' thread :-) > If only the content went along the lines 'Yep, it's going gold next > week', I'd be real happy :-) > > -Juha It indeed is interesting to see a Papy person in a GPL2 thread.... I wonder if the "high downforce test" Dave Kaemmer mentioned in a High Gear interview (a year ago?) has gone further than just a test :) Oh well, I'm only daydreaming..... -- Mika Takala [email hidden] Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email.

Problem is, you WOULD crash and he would whizz past you - you would see him for 0.01 seconds and then he would be gone again, never to be seen :) Seems a waste of processing power in Gregers Case - but for mortals racing against a ghost of themselves its a great option Ash

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| | Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :) | And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're | using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the | Ring, hehe. | | | Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 | Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ | Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uHPA6.550011$[email hidden]... <SNIP> > The thing is, just having a new car physics with let's say 1976 F1's > would be enough. With all the quality tracks we have, we wouldn't want > anything more. So you have Grand Prix, Advanced Trainee and Trainee, and > now you would have hmm "76 Grand Prix" let's say ;-) No need for > licensing, just create a basic vintage open-wheel car from the 70's forthe > physics. Create 5-6 small variants and give it to us. We'll create ourown > 3do's from that. > > > That wouldn't be much, just a gift to all from Papyrus for it's 15th year > anniversary ;) </SNIP> Hear hear, I agree 100%, come on papy please at least make an add on carset, any thing, any class, I dont care I just want something new to drive. Mark

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> On 11 Apr 2001 06:08:36 +0200, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn > Bj�rnstad) wrote: > > >There is one feature I miss, the ghost car mode. > >It's not realistic, but I think it would be a big advantage to > >learning the tracks, and could flatten the learning curve. And > >make the ghost car start half a second in front, so you're following > >it, instead of driving inside it. > > Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :) > And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're > using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the > Ring, hehe.

No problem, just add a control to "pull" the ghost back which the player can assign to a button on his controller. That way you can see the ghosts driveing line through all the turns by pulling it back just before each turn. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

Ok, nice ideas so far, maybe they'll be in WSC. But all I really want from papy these days is a couple simple fixes to improve the overall GPL experience. Yes, I just want another small patch. 1) An official, factory-supported "more cars" patch. IOW, allow us to see more cars ahead and behind than the current 4 & 1. Maybe they could just change it to 6 & 3, or maybe they could make it adjustable so people with different bandwidth could tune their client to suit their needs, and the server would feed them whatever they asked for, up to some limit that the server owner could set. I understand they've increased these for N4, so they have the technology. Please papy, throw us GPL loyalists a bone! 2) Fix the flags. I'm tired of getting blue flags in practice with nobody behind me, then not getting any flag during the race when I'm about to be lapped. This would help a lot. Others? I think those two shouldn't be so hard, and would improve the online experience immensely for me. Marc

> Others? I think those two shouldn't be so hard, and would improve the > online experience immensely for me. > Server based grid order, so the league admin. can set starting order. Would allow for red flag re-starts, prequalifying, reversed grids etc.. Use the existing carNumber parm in the player.ini to help me figure out who's who in a league race. Maybe even put the number on the rear of the gearbox like IRL does so we can tell who we're following (OK purists won't like that but there are more visual queues in real racing then sim). Convex mirrors to make up for lack of peripheral vision, (safer then looking left/right)

I would like to see some kind of skill-testing question to get into a VROC race. Also, anyone who qualified outside the 107% should be automatically kicked. Further, I think that there should be a rev limiter at the start of VROC races which gradually goes away by the end of lap one. Also, nobody should be allowed to quit a VROC race - once the green drops you either keep racing or you have to spectate from the pits (or cold boot your machine). Finally, the game should have a 'rate of closure' sensor: anyone on a collision course with another driver with greater than a 20 KPH speed differential should be kicked. And one more thing. Anyone kicked from a VROC race for committing any of these blunders should be automatically sent to a special VROC chatroom called 'Inconsiderate Asshole Purgatory for No-Skill Chumps'. That's for starters.. Simon

Classifying slower drivers as "inconsiderate assholes" is pretty inconsiderate in itself... If you think you're too good to race with the plebs, join the SRM or something. Jan. =--- Sympatico News wrote... > <snip>

Facility to restart red flagged online races whilst assuming original grid positions would be useful. MS

Sympatico News <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fIiD6.688071$[email hidden]... . Also, nobody should be > allowed to quit a VROC race - once the green drops you either > keep racing or you have to spectate from the pits Hmm. I wonder how popular this would be with our dialup friends (pay per minute accounts), after going out at the first turn of a GP. > your machine). Finally, the game should have a 'rate of closure' > sensor: anyone on a collision course with another driver with > greater than a 20 KPH speed differential should be kicked. Not with the existng collision detection as it stands. We have all crashed, burnt and been pitched hundreds of feet into the air after 30 mph collisions. I think this would be extremely difficult to implement when you consider warping and suchlike. > > And one more thing. Anyone kicked from a VROC race for committing > any of these blunders should be automatically sent to a special > VROC chatroom called 'Inconsiderate Asshole Purgatory for > No-Skill Chumps'. The place would be full after an hour or so :-) MS

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:49:31 GMT, "Sympatico News" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I would like to see some kind of skill-testing question to get >into a VROC race. Also, anyone who qualified outside the 107% >should be automatically kicked. Further, I think that there >should be a rev limiter at the start of VROC races which >gradually goes away by the end of lap one. Also, nobody should be >allowed to quit a VROC race - once the green drops you either >keep racing or you have to spectate from the pits (or cold boot >your machine). Finally, the game should have a 'rate of closure' >sensor: anyone on a collision course with another driver with >greater than a 20 KPH speed differential should be kicked. > >And one more thing. Anyone kicked from a VROC race for committing >any of these blunders should be automatically sent to a special >VROC chatroom called 'Inconsiderate Asshole Purgatory for >No-Skill Chumps'.

Sounds like what you need is a frustration killer device. ;-) Then all of the above will be moot. Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

My wish to GPL2, or GPL 1.3..., is that it will work with a good firewall, like ZoneAlarm, as for ex. N4 does! That would be enough to me... Arto

Arto Wikla wrote: > > My wish to GPL2, or GPL 1.3..., is that it will work with a good > firewall, like ZoneAlarm, as for ex. N4 does! That would be enough > to me... Works fine with my ZoneAlarm... First time it ran it didn't. Then just open up ZoneAlarm & click on the Programs button at the top. GPL will now be in that list of programs. Click the check marks for allow connect beside the GPL entry & also click allow server. Should work after that. -- Fester

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> > Arto Wikla wrote: > > > > My wish to GPL2, or GPL 1.3..., is that it will work with a good > > firewall, like ZoneAlarm, as for ex. N4 does! That would be enough > > to me... > > Works fine with my ZoneAlarm... First time it ran it didn't. Then just > open up ZoneAlarm & click on the Programs button at the top. GPL will > now be in that list of programs. Click the check marks for allow > connect beside the GPL entry & also click allow server. Should work > after that.

Also, make sure the program Main WinVROC Module is set up the same way. -- Fester

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>> Arto Wikla wrote: >> > >> > My wish to GPL2, or GPL 1.3..., is that it will work with a good >> > firewall, like ZoneAlarm, as for ex. N4 does! That would be enough >> > to me... >> >> Works fine with my ZoneAlarm... First time it ran it didn't. Then just >> open up ZoneAlarm & click on the Programs button at the top. GPL will >> now be in that list of programs. Click the check marks for allow >> connect beside the GPL entry & also click allow server. Should work >> after that. >Also, make sure the program Main WinVROC Module is set up the same way.

This is just what I have done... And what has happened: Once I went to Zandy, qualified last, when I tried to get to the staring grid, I saw a flash of me there. Then the screen went black and my Ferrari was still screaming. Another time I went to Smogbank, lousy qualifying, then chatting with the host. And when I pushed the green button to get to the starting grid: Black screen and screaming Ferrari. Both times nothing else helped than to reset the computer... But anyhow, I am nearly there: even practising with real GPL drivers was great... Arto

WOW, that's hard stuff. I would be happy with an option to find out who is behind those names like C.Hansen, ... who are consistantly spoiling our races. If there is no way to hide, people get more resonsible. JensSchumi On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:49:31 GMT, "Sympatico News" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -10.1 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

In article <fIiD6.688071$[email hidden]>, "Sympatico News" <[email hidden]> writes: >I would like to see some kind of skill-testing question to get >into a VROC race. Also, anyone who qualified outside the 107% >should be automatically kicked. That would suck - all it would take is one hotshoe to eliminate half the field...

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>Further, I think that there >should be a rev limiter at the start of VROC races which >gradually goes away by the end of lap one. Also, nobody should be >allowed to quit a VROC race - once the green drops you either >keep racing or you have to spectate from the pits (or cold boot >your machine). Finally, the game should have a 'rate of closure' >sensor: anyone on a collision course with another driver with >greater than a 20 KPH speed differential should be kicked. >

Does that include hitting a spinning car that's blocked your path? >And one more thing. Anyone kicked from a VROC race for committing >any of these blunders should be automatically sent to a special >VROC chatroom called 'Inconsiderate Asshole Purgatory for >No-Skill Chumps'.Is the slow driver also part of this group? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <wikla.987712182@kanasaari>, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) writes: >I went to Smogbank, lousy qualifying, then chatting with the host. Uh, Smogbank...? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

[email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >In article <wikla.987712182@kanasaari>, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) >writes: >>I went to Smogbank, lousy qualifying, then chatting with the host. >Uh, Smogbank...? See http://server43.hypermart.net/gplglory/ A "super oval". And luckily clockwise! ;) Arto

Or a clock-smash JensSchumi On 20 Apr 2001 10:06:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >That would suck - all it would take is one hotshoe to eliminate half the >field... --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -10.1 Monsters of GPL: sub 200