ot: Further Proof that the world is a conspiracy

Back when Michael Andretti tried F1, one of his many problems was the seemingly magnet his Mclaren Ford had that attracted the black car of Karl Wedlinger. Now why does this make a conspiracy? Many of you may now know how I feel about drivers and corparations protecting themselves and their reputations. Now lets REALLY dig into this... Why did Mikey fail? Forget the lack of practice, the fact he still kept jetting back to the States between races...what you need to remember is that Karl kept MA from getting any real seat time. Why? McClaren as a company was VERY unprepared for that season. Senna was holding the entire team hostage with his salary negotiations...Money that could have been used to secure a decent engine package had to be held back until Senna had been resigned. So the Big Macs started the year in essentially customer Ford engines. What would have happened if MA had done well early? Ford would have been trumpeting the results all over the USA. Chrysler...which had no racing program at the time...didn't want to see Ford do well with an American in the world's top racing series... did they have any contact, monetarily with Wedlinger? I don't know.. But I do know that when the Chrysler Viper became KING of the GTS class, Karl was on the Chryco payroll. And now with the new Chrysler LMP being debuted this weekend...who is one of the Team drivers slated to drive the Chrysler LMP at Le Mans???? (here's a small bit of a speedvision story about the drivers...) ___ In addition, the team has announced three additions to its driver strength for Le Mans. Joining Yannick Dalmas, Olivier Beretta and Karl Wendlinger will be Frenchmen Stephane Sarrazin and Franck Montagny and Germany's Norman Simon. ___ There is our buddy Karl...still on the Chrysler Payroll. Think what you may...but when you connect A to B time after time...who's to say what skulldugery exists in the day to day world of high stakes high finance racing???? Dave "Skulder"Henrie

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:51:45 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Dave "Skulder"Henrie > Agent Skulder, You have been taken off the X-Files. Please continue with your assigned duty at the Telemetry analysis section. Sorry Dave, I can't agree. The racing industry is filled with overlapping interests from sponsorships, previous alliances between drivers from karting or other leagues, etc. Companies like GM and Ford are so huge these days that it's hard to not link a driver to either one and probably sometimes both. Maclaren didn't have the best car then and Michael wasn't as fortunate as JV and Damon Hill who were both made to look very good in the stunning (at the time) Williams. Please JV fans, I don't believe JV and DH are in the same class, but JV's transition into F1 was made easier by having a competitive reliable car. His obvious talent has been demonstrated enough times for me to not admire and respect him. As for Damon Hill, wellllll. But this isn't the time or place. As for you DanaFox, I suggest you do the following experiment. Look for evidence of more improbable things. Say Michael Schumacher versus Ralf Schumacher or Frank Williams versus Enzo Ferarri(about that wheelchair accident) or how about Murray Walker versus James Hunt(no disrespect intended). You could probably find evidence supporting maliciousness or foul play if you dug deep enough. None of it would be substantiated or conclusive, I believe, but just as believable as your Wendlinger - Andretti, Verstappen Montoya conclusions. I'm having fun with the whole X-Files thing, but I think we should let it go for a while and enjoy the sport for the entertainment and technical wizardry on display. Just curious, are you a Michael Andretti fan? My personal opinion on him is that although he has become a master in the Cart leagues in it's various guises, he has not shown the versatility of his dad in driving other vehicles competitively. Even in Cart, I always felt that there were more talented (but less consistent) drivers around. I think it makes these more talented drivers more successful at F1 than the solid consistent drivers. Much as I dislike his style, I think a young Paul Tracy would have been a better driver to take to F1 than Michael. Just my opinion, Agent Skulder. I enjoy reading yours... cheers, Ian

Sorry David but I can't agree. Claiming Chrysler hired Karl as a "hitman" against Mike is about as far fetched as it gets. Also, at the time you have to remember that Chrysler was getting a whole lot of press for all of the new and innovate vehicles they were debuting (Intrepid, Ram, Viper GTS. etc..... ). Believe me they had better things to do than make sure Mike failed in F1. Like Ian said, most historic events can be twisted into a conspiracy if you try hard enough. Also, In defense of Michael, he may never garner the respect his father has/had as a pure race car driver. He might not have the story book career, but times are quite a bit different from when Mario drove. IMO, anybody that has a CART championship and podium finishes in CART, F1, and Le Mans has got to be considered one of the greats.

Tracy had a test for Benetton in 95 i think, ive got the transcript of his pit communication in my garage.......he didnt go that quickly. pez <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:51:45 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Dave "Skulder"Henrie > > > > Agent Skulder, > > You have been taken off the X-Files. Please continue with your > assigned duty at the Telemetry analysis section. > > Sorry Dave, I can't agree. The racing industry is filled with > overlapping interests from sponsorships, previous alliances between > drivers from karting or other leagues, etc. Companies like GM and > Ford are so huge these days that it's hard to not link a driver to > either one and probably sometimes both. > > Maclaren didn't have the best car then and Michael wasn't as fortunate > as JV and Damon Hill who were both made to look very good in the > stunning (at the time) Williams. Please JV fans, I don't believe JV > and DH are in the same class, but JV's transition into F1 was made > easier by having a competitive reliable car. His obvious talent has > been demonstrated enough times for me to not admire and respect him. > As for Damon Hill, wellllll. But this isn't the time or place. > > As for you DanaFox, I suggest you do the following experiment. Look > for evidence of more improbable things. Say Michael Schumacher versus > Ralf Schumacher or Frank Williams versus Enzo Ferarri(about that > wheelchair accident) or how about Murray Walker versus James Hunt(no > disrespect intended). You could probably find evidence supporting > maliciousness or foul play if you dug deep enough. None of it would > be substantiated or conclusive, I believe, but just as believable as > your Wendlinger - Andretti, Verstappen Montoya conclusions. > > I'm having fun with the whole X-Files thing, but I think we should let > it go for a while and enjoy the sport for the entertainment and > technical wizardry on display. > > Just curious, are you a Michael Andretti fan? My personal opinion on > him is that although he has become a master in the Cart leagues in > it's various guises, he has not shown the versatility of his dad in > driving other vehicles competitively. Even in Cart, I always felt > that there were more talented (but less consistent) drivers around. I > think it makes these more talented drivers more successful at F1 than > the solid consistent drivers. Much as I dislike his style, I think a > young Paul Tracy would have been a better driver to take to F1 than > Michael. > > Just my opinion, Agent Skulder. I enjoy reading yours... > > cheers, > Ian

Dave.....look what you started! You did this on purpose? Tom

Hi, I stand corrected :) The Benetton in 1995 wasn't too bad a car to drive. Probably 2nd only to the Williams, but my memory is not too good. Mind you, IMO Tracy would have looked a poor second to JV in terms of the inevitable comparisons people would have made. Regards, Ian On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:27:19 +0100, "Alexpez" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Tracy had a test for Benetton in 95 i think, ive got the transcript of his >pit communication in my garage.......he didnt go that quickly. > >pez ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >> the solid consistent drivers. Much as I dislike his style, I think a >> young Paul Tracy would have been a better driver to take to F1 than >> Michael.

In article <LN8B6.11056$[email hidden]>, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> writes: >Dave.....look what you started! You did this on purpose? > >Tom Of COURSE he did...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Sorry Ian, I had to go to deja/google to see your reply.. I wonder how many other threads are getting cut off by outlook express? Anyhow...for a LONG time I thought Mike Andretti was the WORST! I grew up liking Al Unser(sr) and that naturally transferred to Al Jr. The year before he left and the year after he came back to CART, Andretti was an EXTREMELY dirty driver...it took two years but CART finally put him on probation. I can think of at least half a dozen drivers who got their rear tires shredded by Andretti. He rarely finished a roadcourse with both the endplanes on his front wing, because he was always using that part to slice tires of those who were holding him up. Ask Vasser or Gordon...they seemed to be favorites of his...hmmmm another conspiracy perhaps..???.... In the middle years of CART, I think tho...that Andretti was the finest driver in the series..(still didn't like him tho...) He had Tracey's pure speed and Unser Jr's guts, all he lacked were the SMARTS that drivers like Fittipaldi & Rahal displayed. He's a CART Champion, but only one time, his 'take no prisoners' style of driving probably cost him at least two other series titles and at least two wins at the Big Race which used to be the biggest spectacle in racing. I do believe the Indy 500 and his stocky frame have kept him from showing the overall talents he seemed to have inherited. Tied to the big oval, searching for that win...kept him from seeking drives in other series...until the Mclaren deal opened up. I can't think of another time, except for that GASTLY 3 wing Mclaren just before Adrian Newey joined the team, that the Mac-squad produced a worse car. No real engine and a team focused 99% on Senna...no way he could have done well... My old dream was for Andretti & Unser Jr to take Gurney built Eagles back to Europe....that would have been something... dave henrie