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Nascar Heat versus N4, I like them both !

8 posts by 4 people · 14 Apr 2001 12:01 UTC - 22 Apr 2001 01:59 UTC

Olly Greenfield 14 Apr 2001 12:01 UTC#190853
I have been playing Nascar Heat for quite awhile and have enjoyed it, and I finally bought N4 out of curiosity a few weeks ago. The installation was not a problem except that I made the mistake of allowing N4 to install DirectX 8.0, which caused my Thrusmasters pedals to stop working and totally disabled my Ultraracer joystick, so I had to reinstall Windows 98 to fix everything since updating my gameport drivers had no effect. Anyways,as long as a sim has decent physics and good graphics, I am not that picky about other things if they are not too grossly distracting. My general feeling is that both of these games are excellent . They are somewhat different in feel, and yet I like them equally well. N4 has a nice gritty very mechanical engine sound that I prefer, indeed the overall feel of the car is very mechanical and cumbersome, and it is a bit harder to run similar lap times as I can with Nascar Heat, which is a nice added challenge that I like. However , it is not so much that the physics model is much more demanding than Nascar heats, since I can run about the same lap times on the ovals, but on the two roadcourses N4 tracks are much more demanding. Watkins Glen and Sears Point in N4 have more blind corners due to more substantial elevation changes than are present in their Nascar Heat counterparts. I find myself being far more cautious entering turns in N4 because I cannot see the track margins until the last moment sometimes, and I have too anticipate the turns before I can see them. In Nascar Heat the tracks seem flatter and I can easily make corrections if I see that I am coming into a corner a bit too fast. Consequently, it is easy to get into a nice smooth rhythm in Nascar heat lap after lap, which allows me to concentrate a bit more on the A.I. cars and a bit less on my own car, which is kind of a plus and a minus at the same time. Nascar Heat has far better graphics in my opinion, they are almost photorealistic in replays, while N4 has graphics that don't look much improved over GPL's but are decent. As far as one being an arcade racer and the other a sim as I have read partisans of both games say, I think that they are clearly both sims by my standards with respect to physics. N4 feels a bit more simlike but it is hardly a huge difference, it is very subtle. Both games are great, and I intend to play them both about equally, depending on what flavor of sim I am in the mood for that evening. If you have the money, I would say buy them both.
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:01:57 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have been playing Nascar Heat for quite awhile and have enjoyed it, and I >finally bought N4 out of curiosity a few weeks ago. <snip> This is one of the few truly objective comparisons I have read. I've seen too many idiots (yes, idiots) say Nascar Heat is an arcade game compared to N4, which is utter BS. I agree with everything you said. They are both good, but N4 needs a patch to fix AI issues soon.
Some people feel Heat as being an Arcade game, for this you call them idiots? Now thats an unbiased opinion. I hope Sieera /Papy do not take as long as Heat to release a patch oh....... I forgot a "official" patch for Heat has not yet been posted .........damn what was I thinkin...... > <snip> > This is one of the few truly objective comparisons I have read. I've > seen too many idiots (yes, idiots) say Nascar Heat is an arcade game > compared to N4, which is utter BS. I agree with everything you said. > They are both good, but N4 needs a patch to fix AI issues soon.
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:22:04 -0600, "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>Some people feel Heat as being an Arcade game, for this you call them >idiots? >Now thats an unbiased opinion. I hope Sieera /Papy do not take as long as >Heat to >release a patch oh....... I forgot a "official" patch for Heat has not yet >been posted >.........damn what was I thinkin...... >
Yea whatever...guess I hit a nerve. I bet your one of those twats that says Heat looks cartoonish because the colours are brighter and don't even know that you can now change to desaturated colours through the options file.
JJ Sricklin 15 Apr 2001 16:44 UTC#527971
Yea, whatever Moron, ***? Stop looking between your legs while typing girlyboy.
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:44:30 -0600, "JJ Sricklin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yea, whatever Moron, Twat? Stop looking between your legs while typing >girlyboy. > YA? Well, you are smelly-poo-poo man that talk too much poo-poo.
I like them both for different reasons.... HOWEVER, On NH, I downloaded my first setup...... How do I access it in "Single Race " Mode???? Tim A. Deatherage [email hidden] www.timdeatheragecpa.com "Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V_WB6.1955$[email hidden]... > I have been playing Nascar Heat for quite awhile and have enjoyed it, andI > finally bought N4 out of curiosity a few weeks ago. The installation wasnot > a problem except that I made the mistake of allowing N4 to installDirectX > 8.0, which caused my Thrusmasters pedals to stop working and totally > disabled my Ultraracer joystick, so I had to reinstall Windows 98 to fix > everything since updating my gameport drivers had no effect. Anyways,aslong > as a sim has decent physics and good graphics, I am not that picky about > other things if they are not too grossly distracting. My general feelingis > that both of these games are excellent . They are somewhat different in > feel, and yet I like them equally well. > N4 has a nice gritty very mechanical engine sound that I prefer, indeedthe
Quoted text (11 lines)> overall feel of the car is very mechanical and cumbersome, and it is a bit > harder to run similar lap times as I can with Nascar Heat, which is a nice > added challenge that I like. However , it is not so much that the physics > model is much more demanding than Nascar heats, since I can run about the > same lap times on the ovals, but on the two roadcourses N4 tracks are much > more demanding. Watkins Glen and Sears Point in N4 have more blind corners > due to more substantial elevation changes than are present in their Nascar > Heat counterparts. I find myself being far more cautious entering turns in > N4 because I cannot see the track margins until the last moment sometimes, > and I have too anticipate the turns before I can see them. In Nascar Heat > the tracks seem flatter and I can easily make corrections if I see that I
am > coming into a corner a bit too fast. Consequently, it is easy to get intoa > nice smooth rhythm in Nascar heat lap after lap, which allows me to > concentrate a bit more on the A.I. cars and a bit less on my own car,which > is kind of a plus and a minus at the same time. Nascar Heat has far better > graphics in my opinion, they are almost photorealistic in replays, whileN4 > has graphics that don't look much improved over GPL's but are decent. Asfar > as one being an arcade racer and the other a sim as I have read partisansof > both games say, I think that they are clearly both sims by my standardswith > respect to physics. N4 feels a bit more simlike but it is hardly a huge > difference, it is very subtle. Both games are great, and I intend to play > them both about equally, depending on what flavor of sim I am in the mood > for that evening. If you have the money, I would say buy them both. > >

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