GPLrank recovery ?

After reinstalling GPL , i went to the GPLrank site, and like a big dummy, accidentally submitted a fresh player.ini to the site. It now looks like it wiped my rankings clean. I'm sure its too late, but is there anyone i can cry to that can recover my old rank ? (it was only a 121.0 or so, but i dont get a lot of free time anymore) Be merciful, its been a long day before this happened...GMpartsguy

MYGOD! Somebody help this man....Anybody below me deserves all the help he can get!!! (ps...I theenk you are out of luck) (pps: I did the same thing but on purpose and wound up with an improvement of about 20 seconds...) dave henrie "GMpartsdude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WH5D6.8866$[email hidden]... > After reinstalling GPL , i went to the GPLrank site, and like a big dummy, > accidentally submitted a fresh player.ini to the site. It now looks likeit > wiped my rankings clean. > I'm sure its too late, but is there anyone i can cry to that can recovermy > old rank ? (it was only a 121.0 or so, but i dont get a lot of free time > anymore) > Be merciful, its been a long day before this happened...GMpartsguy > >

Hi, I guess I qualify for being the most improved driver of the week. I've always been a huge fan of GPL even though I can't really play it. Sound strange? Well, I don't have a wheel and currently can't afford one, but that's another story. I submitted my F3 player.ini to GPL a long time and never bothered to update it. Having gotten the bug again, I decided to hook up my joypad and attempt to play again. This time with a F1 engine. Brave & stupid, I know. Anyway, obviously I smashed my records at all tracks and updated my player.ini. Whoopee a massive >200 points improvement to 316. Can you imagine what my previous one was? Don't ask. Anyway, embarrasment aside, I knew that the 316 gplrank was based on some pretty pisspoor laps, even by my standards and decided to sit down last night and take it a bit more seriously. After about 2 hours of lapping, I managed to whack another 100 points off my ranking leaving me at 216. Most of the time was gained at Spa and the Ring, and I still haven't broken 10 min at the ring, so I know I have a lot more time I can chop off. Remember all of this is with a analog joypad so my thumbs are pretty much messed up write now. i'mevenhaving the odd spasm hittingmyspacebar! I figure at the rate of progress I'm making, I should be +116 tonight, +16 by Friday and -84 by Saturday night. Wish me luck :) Seriously, though, I can't wait to play GPL with a FF wheel, but that's months away if I'm lucky. I will soldier on with the joypad. I figure that realistically, I should be aiming for something like a +150 to +120 rank. If I make the former, I'll be happy. Hopefully the knowledge gained now will enable a swift transition to playing with a wheel. Is there anybody else out there suffering with an inferior controller, but doing well, nonetheless? regards, ian On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:09:01 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> MYGOD! Somebody help this man....Anybody below me deserves all the >help he can get!!! >dave henrie >"GMpartsdude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:WH5D6.8866$[email hidden]... >> old rank ? (it was only a 121.0 or so, but i dont get a lot of free time >> anymore) >> Be merciful, its been a long day before this happened...GMpartsguy

Hhhmmm... Im sorry, if you overwrote your old rank it may be irretrievable. write a mail to [email hidden] maybe Uwe can retrieve your old times (they may be stored i dont know ) dan leach (gplrank admin) GMpartsdude <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WH5D6.8866$[email hidden]... > After reinstalling GPL , i went to the GPLrank site, and like a big dummy, > accidentally submitted a fresh player.ini to the site. It now looks likeit > wiped my rankings clean. > I'm sure its too late, but is there anyone i can cry to that can recovermy > old rank ? (it was only a 121.0 or so, but i dont get a lot of free time > anymore) > Be merciful, its been a long day before this happened...GMpartsguy > >

AFAIK a new player.ini overwrites the current player.ini so it's not recoverable, sorry. On the up side, all those previous laps you drove in gpl will now pay you back. Just put in a few laps at each track and I'm sure you'll be seeing a new personal best everytime. [email hidden] (dan leach) wrote in <[email hidden]>:

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>Hhhmmm... Im sorry, if you overwrote your old rank it may be >irretrievable. > write a mail to [email hidden] maybe Uwe can retrieve > your old >times (they may be stored i dont know ) > dan leach (gplrank admin) >GMpartsdude <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:WH5D6.8866$[email hidden]... >> After reinstalling GPL , i went to the GPLrank site, and like a >> big dummy, accidentally submitted a fresh player.ini to the site. >> It now looks like >it >> wiped my rankings clean. >> I'm sure its too late, but is there anyone i can cry to that can >> recover my >> old rank ? (it was only a 121.0 or so, but i dont get a lot of >> free time anymore) >> Be merciful, its been a long day before this >> happened...GMpartsguy

-- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -12.11 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Hi, I don't understand it. I shoulda had a rank of 116 by tonight. Yet after 2 hours of solid play, I can only manage an improvement of 16 points to +199.54 (according to the replay analyser tool). Darn. I was beginning to this game was easy, but now tonight i can't go faster... :( anyway, improved my ring time from 10:09 to 9:56 in a nice session and my monaco & mexico times had much smaller improvements. its hard playing with the joypad, but if I make fewer mistakes around the ring I have a lot of time to make up. oh well. more practise required then. regards ian

Isn't it the law of diminishing returns - a logarithmic scale? Like, if you improve 5 secs laps1-2 you can expect to improve 2.5 secs laps 2-3 1.25 secs laps 3-4 and pretty soon you're chasing hundredths (and not getting them). I'm stuck at about 130 GPL rank and I reckon I've just about reached my limit of excellence - until something dramatic happens, like I learn the Ring or get a split axis wheel (or get around Monaco cleanly!) With a joypad, don't you need throttle and braking help? That'll slow you down no matter what you do, won't it? -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] "Ian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I don't understand it. I shoulda had a rank of 116 by tonight. Yet > after 2 hours of solid play, I can only manage an improvement of 16 > points to +199.54 (according to the replay analyser tool). > > Darn. I was beginning to this game was easy, but now tonight i can't > go faster... :( > > anyway, improved my ring time from 10:09 to 9:56 in a nice session and > my monaco & mexico times had much smaller improvements. > > its hard playing with the joypad, but if I make fewer mistakes around > the ring I have a lot of time to make up. > > oh well. more practise required then. > > regards > ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 18/04/01

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:02:17 GMT, "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Isn't it the law of diminishing returns - a logarithmic scale? >Like, if you improve 5 secs laps1-2 you can expect to improve 2.5 secs >laps 2-3 1.25 secs laps 3-4 and pretty soon you're chasing hundredths >(and not getting them). I had my tongue firmly in cheek when I was making those claims :) It was just so much fun being at the point where I *can* actually shave off seconds at a time. Most GPL'ers are at the point where you are and are only able to improve in 10ths of a second now. I'm glad I \am at this point now without a wheel as it gives me something to look forward to as I improve my track knowledge. >I'm stuck at about 130 GPL rank and I reckon I've just about reached >my limit of excellence - until something dramatic happens, like I >learn the Ring or get a split axis wheel (or get around Monaco >cleanly!)i am at +191 now. Still haven't made a clean ring or monaco lap yet. My ring time is down to 9.49 and if you look around, that's pretty poor. It's hard with the joypad as the throttle & brakes are digital and can't be applied simultaneosly as I use my thumb for both. I am using a playstation dual shock so maybe I should move the brake to one of the shoulder buttons. i'm still playing with an auto gearbox but i feel ready to change to manual once my fingers get used to changing gears on the pad. as for monaco & the ring, 2 questions. do people lift off the throttle through the chicane or is it flat out from the tunnel all the way? and as for the final straight on the ring...i have to lift off the throttle as I go under the last bridge or else i plant it in the hedge on the right on the way downhill. must watch greger's lap again. i have done about 15 ring laps to date and by now I should go back and watch some replays to see how it should be done. the track is slowly becoming familiar now and I am even beginning to anticipate corners now. watch out 9 minute make, here I come. i figure in my current state, if i have no spins on a lap, I should be able to save about 30-40 seconds. by then, with improving track awareness, i should be able to gain another 10 seconds or so and then I'm at the 9 min mark. if i factor taking an average of 2secs per lap off the other tracks where I am an average of 120% off the pace, I should be pushing your +130 :) Which tells me that you probably could do better as well, given time. Don't sell yourself short. >With a joypad, don't you need throttle and braking help? That'll slow >you down no matter what you do, won't it?I will play around with the controller settings some more. My main problem is that the analog stick on the psx pad is way too sensitive. I set the ratio in GPL to 20:1 and its still too sensitive. very easy to over-correct and lose control. if you watch any replays of mine, you see me sawing at the wheel much more than other people's replays. its just the stick that does that. If I use minute movements, I get the smoothness, but it is incredibly demanding do play that way, and certainly not practical for more than 10 or 20 seconds at a time. it makes driving smoothly impossible and i lose a lot of time correcting the car, even in a straight line :( oh well. making plans now to free up cash for a wheel. mmmm what can i sell...... regards, ian

"Ian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:02:17 GMT, "Laurence Wilmer" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Isn't it the law of diminishing returns - a logarithmic scale? > >Like, if you improve 5 secs laps1-2 you can expect to improve 2.5secs > >laps 2-3 1.25 secs laps 3-4 and pretty soon you're chasinghundredths > >(and not getting them). > > I had my tongue firmly in cheek when I was making those claims :)It > was just so much fun being at the point where I *can* actually shave > off seconds at a time. Most GPL'ers are at the point where you are > and are only able to improve in 10ths of a second now. I'm glad I\am > at this point now without a wheel as it gives me something to look > forward to as I improve my track knowledge. > > >I'm stuck at about 130 GPL rank and I reckon I've just aboutreached > >my limit of excellence - until something dramatic happens, like I > >learn the Ring or get a split axis wheel (or get around Monaco > >cleanly!) > i am at +191 now. Still haven't made a clean ring or monaco lapyet. > My ring time is down to 9.49 and if you look around, that's pretty > poor. It's hard with the joypad as the throttle & brakes aredigital > and can't be applied simultaneosly as I use my thumb for both. I am > using a playstation dual shock so maybe I should move the brake toone > of the shoulder buttons. i'm still playing with an auto gearbox buti > feel ready to change to manual once my fingers get used to changing > gears on the pad. as for monaco & the ring, 2 questions. > > do people lift off the throttle through the chicane or is it flatout > from the tunnel all the way? > > and as for the final straight on the ring...i have to lift off the > throttle as I go under the last bridge or else i plant it in thehedge > on the right on the way downhill. must watch greger's lap again. > > i have done about 15 ring laps to date and by now I should go backand > watch some replays to see how it should be done. the track isslowly > becoming familiar now and I am even beginning to anticipate corners > now. watch out 9 minute make, here I come. i figure in my current > state, if i have no spins on a lap, I should be able to save about > 30-40 seconds. by then, with improving track awareness, i should be > able to gain another 10 seconds or so and then I'm at the 9 minmark. > if i factor taking an average of 2secs per lap off the other tracks > where I am an average of 120% off the pace, I should be pushing your > +130 :) Which tells me that you probably could do better as well, > given time. Don't sell yourself short. > > >With a joypad, don't you need throttle and braking help? That'llslow > >you down no matter what you do, won't it? > I will play around with the controller settings some more. My main > problem is that the analog stick on the psx pad is way toosensitive. > I set the ratio in GPL to 20:1 and its still too sensitive. veryeasy > to over-correct and lose control. if you watch any replays of mine, > you see me sawing at the wheel much more than other people'sreplays.

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> its just the stick that does that. If I use minute movements, I get > the smoothness, but it is incredibly demanding do play that way, and > certainly not practical for more than 10 or 20 seconds at a time. > > it makes driving smoothly impossible and i lose a lot of time > correcting the car, even in a straight line :( > > oh well. making plans now to free up cash for a wheel. mmmm what > can i sell...... > > regards, > ian

Hope the chap who said 8:30 was an average time for the Ring had his tongue in his cheek as well!! Yes - lift off through the tunnel, power on at exit, then lift a bit again and run over the left kerb. Also lift for jump at end of Ring straight. My biggest time improvements came when I learned to dump the GP2/3 habits of blast / brake / turn and realised it is quicker not to brake, but lift off earlier. Assume you've found Alison's circuit Guides at http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/ (Contents - Circuits)? Your achievements with a joypad are quite phenomenal! I have only achieved 9:30 Ring and 1:35 Monaco - with an elderly Thrustmaster T2 no split axis, but at least it's a wheel. Currently working on Rouen (2:09) - can NOT be consistent on the hairpin! -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 18/04/01

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:52:02 GMT, "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Hope the chap who said 8:30 was an average time for the Ring had his >tongue in his cheek as well!!hehe > >Yes - lift off through the tunnel, power on at exit, then lift a bit >again and run over the left kerb.that gap is just too small :) 90% of the time i hit something and i get my best times if i manage to keep from spinning and keep it on the rail. i probably have 2 or 3 seconds i can pick up there alone. >Also lift for jump at end of Ring straight.ahh. now i don't feel like a sissy anymore. i thought i was being to conservative. i sometimes feel though that there is a time to be nice and gentle and then there are times that you use will & brute force to make the car do what you want to do. unfortunately, my will and force are not always up to the task. >My biggest time improvements came when I learned to dump the GP2/3 >habits of blast / brake / turn and realised it is quicker not to >brake, but lift off earlier.i'm learning that as well. especially in the downhill twisty bits. its such a blast being able to put the power down earlier too as a result of that technique. >Assume you've found Alison's circuit Guides at >http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/ (Contents - Circuits)?er, no. meaning to print out the guides at www.legendscentral.com/lor/ when my boss isn't looking. :) >Your achievements with a joypad are quite phenomenal! I have only >achieved 9:30 Ring and 1:35 Monaco - with an elderly Thrustmaster T2not as phenomenal as the guy doing 1.09 at watkins glen with the keyboard :) my ring time is currently 9:49 with about 4 or 5 major cockups in between. i figure 9:10 or 20 is achievable as i learn more about it. >no split axis, but at least it's a wheel.as long as you can be smooth, i guess it helps. are you sure it isn't split axis? isn't there a little back to back converter that you can remove to make it 3 axis? i borrowed one once and I seem to recall that little thing that you plugged in between the pedals and the main unit to change the brake axis. that was a looooong way back though, so my memory may be faulty. >Currently working on Rouen (2:09) - can NOT be consistent on the >hairpin!yep. needing to find a good line & braking point there myself. especially after the speedy straight before hand. regards, ian

In article <6FTD6.325$[email hidden]>, "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> writes: >Hope the chap who said 8:30 was an average time for the Ring had his >tongue in his cheek as well!! > Nope - Andre's pretty fast.... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, istoff writes: >>Currently working on Rouen (2:09) - can NOT be consistent on the >>hairpin! >yep. needing to find a good line & braking point there myself. >especially after the speedy straight before hand. If I stay on the power in the left-hand kink, I can't slow down in time for the hairpin. I end up praking for the left-hander, and coasting to/through the hairpin. I'm losing a bunch of time that way, but it's the only way I can get through it more than once in a row<g>. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Ian <[email hidden]> writes: >do people lift off the throttle through the chicane or is it flat out >from the tunnel all the way? > >and as for the final straight on the ring...i have to lift off the >throttle as I go under the last bridge or else i plant it in the hedge >on the right on the way downhill. must watch greger's lap again. 'Normal' people lift in both spots. Aliens never even NOTICE those areas...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 20 Apr 2001 19:23:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >In article <[email hidden]>, Ian ><[email hidden]> writes: > >'Normal' people lift in both spots. Aliens never even NOTICE those areas...<g> > >Eldred aliens & conspiracies. am i in the right ng? regards, ian (no gpl tonight. watching empire strikes back for the umpteenth time, is that an acceptable excuse?)

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, istoff writes: > > >>Currently working on Rouen (2:09) - can NOT be consistent on the > >>hairpin! > >yep. needing to find a good line & braking point there myself. > >especially after the speedy straight before hand. > > If I stay on the power in the left-hand kink, I can't slow down in time for the > hairpin. I end up praking for the left-hander, and coasting to/through the > hairpin. I'm losing a bunch of time that way, but it's the only way I can get > through it more than once in a row<g>. > > Eldred

My braking point there is the tree at the right, just before the left kink. I arrive there in either 4th or 5th, depending on my exit speed out of the turn before and on the fuel load. I shift back to 3rd as soon as possible (without over revving ofcourse). Usually I am in 3rd just before the left kink starts. Throughout the left kink, I keep it in 3rd, until just before the hairpin. While braking in the left kink, it is a matter of keeping the car balanced. I do this by modulating the throttle while braking, to give the rears more or less grip as needed. Obviously, the throttle modulation is kinda hard to do if you don't have split axis. Although doing the same thing with combined axis has partially the same type of effect, as modulating the throttle pedal causes modulation of the braking force. -- René van Lobberegt, The Netherlands. http://www.toptown.com/INNERCIRCLE/1846/ [email hidden] AMCA webmaster : http://www.amcaracing.nl/ [email hidden]

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> > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:52:02 GMT, "Laurence Wilmer" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Your achievements with a joypad are quite phenomenal! I have only > >achieved 9:30 Ring and 1:35 Monaco - with an elderly Thrustmaster T2 > > not as phenomenal as the guy doing 1.09 at watkins glen with the > keyboard :) > > my ring time is currently 9:49 with about 4 or 5 major cockups in > between. i figure 9:10 or 20 is achievable as i learn more about it. > >no split axis, but at least it's a wheel. > as long as you can be smooth, i guess it helps. are you sure it isn't > split axis? isn't there a little back to back converter that you can > remove to make it 3 axis? i borrowed one once and I seem to recall > that little thing that you plugged in between the pedals and the main > unit to change the brake axis. that was a looooong way back though, > so my memory may be faulty.

I also still have a T2, which is to get a full pot replacement again. And this time it's no longer $2 pots, but a $12 conductive plastic 360 degrees pot for the wheel, and $8 c.p. pots for throttle and brake. The T2 is hardwired as combined axis. I have rewired my pedals to be switchable between split and combined axis (as some games only support that). Using or not using the converter made it possible to have the throttle/brake axis on either Joy 1 (JoyA Vert, in GP1/2/3 terms) or Joy 2 (JoyB Horz) as games.... Erm... no wait I remember now. The first series of T2's had the wheel at Joy 0 (A Horz), and the throttle/brake on Joy 2 (B Horz). But when used with Windows, selecting a 2 axis joystick/wheel required the throttle/brake axis to be on Joy 1 (A Vert). This is what the converter was for. Later T2 models had the throttle/brake already wired to Joy 1, and didn't need (and didn't get shipped with) the converter. Btw, mine came with the converter <G> With this old and rusty T2 with cheap pots, my Ring pb is 8:04.82 . Mind though, that the Ring is my favorite track, and I actually started GPL-ing on it in an F1 car :):):) -- René van Lobberegt, The Netherlands. http://www.toptown.com/INNERCIRCLE/1846/ [email hidden] AMCA webmaster : http://www.amcaracing.nl/ [email hidden]

Depends if it's the original or the Enhanced version that was required by the mega- corparations in return for releasing Willow. The backroom negotiations probably resulted in the stock market boom that just recently(December) peaked. :) dave h "Ian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 20 Apr 2001 19:23:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >In article <[email hidden]>, Ian > ><[email hidden]> writes: > > > >'Normal' people lift in both spots. Aliens never even NOTICE thoseareas...<g>

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> > > >Eldred > > aliens & conspiracies. am i in the right ng? > > regards, > ian > (no gpl tonight. watching empire strikes back for the umpteenth time, > is that an acceptable excuse?)

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>My braking point there is the tree at the right, just before the left kin= >k. >I arrive there in either 4th or 5th, depending on my exit speed out of th= >e turn >before and on the fuel load. >I shift back to 3rd as soon as possible (without over revving ofcourse). = >Usually >I am in 3rd just before the left kink starts. Throughout the left kink, I= > keep it >in 3rd, until just before the hairpin. >While braking in the left kink, it is a matter of keeping the car balance= >d. I do >this by modulating the throttle while braking, to give the rears more or = >less grip >as needed. >Obviously, the throttle modulation is kinda hard to do if you don't have = >split axis. >Although doing the same thing with combined axis has partially the same t= >ype of >effect, as modulating the throttle pedal causes modulation of the braking= > force.

Tree on the right? I've never noticed that. Hmm...methinks it got lost with the low graphics settings on my system... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:23:46 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Depends if it's the original or the Enhanced version that was required by >the mega- >corparations in return for releasing Willow. The backroom negotiations >probably >resulted in the stock market boom that just recently(December) peaked. >:) >dave h

watching star wars 2 nights ago, i was reminded how good the StarWarsTitanic spoof avi really was. When i saw the scene that was parodied, i was laughing hysterically. if you've seen the clip, you know what i mean :) funnily enough, we are in the middle of a mini-starwars - rerun thingy with return of the jedi on tonight and episode 1 tomorrow. nice bit of diversion from GPL. The enhancements to the original were quite more in your face than for empire strikes back. I seem to remember the list of changes being longest for the first movie. Pity they couldn't improve the quality of the acting though. Although i love the movie, the acting is really very B movie quality. Adds to the charm, i suppose. *that's all my opinion, folks* but to bring it back to the ng, the racing aspects of Jedi with the hoverbikes was for me so much better than the flash and dash of the Pod racing scene in episode 1. i actually got a little bored with the later comparing it mentally with the chariot races in spartacus. whew. not wanting to start any further discussion along these lines, so let me say, regards all, ian

On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:35:48 +0200, Ian <[email hidden]> wrote: >watching star wars 2 nights ago, i was reminded how good the >StarWarsTitanic spoof avi really was. When i saw the scene that was >parodied, i was laughing hysterically. if you've seen the clip, you >know what i mean :) Got an url for me please? Andre

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:44:18 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:35:48 +0200, Ian <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>watching star wars 2 nights ago, i was reminded how good the >>StarWarsTitanic spoof avi really was. When i saw the scene that was >>parodied, i was laughing hysterically. if you've seen the clip, you >>know what i mean :) > >Got an url for me please? > >Andre

let me know if this works for you. i'm at work and can't check it for you http://www.extranettv.com/shows/nfv/one.html http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~wang22/ regards, ian

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>>Got an url for me please? >> >>Andre >let me know if this works for you. i'm at work and can't check it for >you > >http://www.extranettv.com/shows/nfv/one.html > >http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~wang22/ > >regards, >ian

It works, thanks, what a classic movie, extremely funny :)) Andre

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:08:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>>http://www.extranettv.com/shows/nfv/one.html >> >>http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~wang22/ >> >>regards, >>ian > >It works, thanks, what a classic movie, extremely funny :)) > >Andre

ya, but we're very far offtopic here :) after watching the movie, i couldn't believe if the boardroom scene was all from original footage or was some other actor spliced in. when i watched the original movie last week, it just confirmed that only the dialog was changed. excellent stuff. cheers

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> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:23:46 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > but to bring it back to the ng, the racing aspects of Jedi with the > hoverbikes was for me so much better than the flash and dash of the > Pod racing scene in episode 1. i actually got a little bored with the > later comparing it mentally with the chariot races in spartacus.

I believe you mean Ben Hur, not Spartacus. -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:07:33 -0600, David Ewing <[email hidden]> >> >later comparing it mentally with the chariot races in spartacus. > >I believe you mean Ben Hur, not Spartacus. Spot on. I've made that mistake more than once. oops. Regards, Ian

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>ya, but we're very far offtopic here :) after watching the movie, i >couldn't believe if the boardroom scene was all from original footage >or was some other actor spliced in. when i watched the original movie >last week, it just confirmed that only the dialog was changed. >excellent stuff. > >cheers

Also check out that exploding whale movie on the second site (http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~wang22/). Funny :) Andre

Here's some good advice for Nouveau Monde, the hairpin at Rouen. I copy and pasted this from http://www.legendscentral.com/LOR/trackguides/index.html - where you can find pictures to support the text. LOR also have trackguides, setups and replays for all the GPL tracks. Hope this helps! Jim PS. My Rouen P.B. was 2:02.xx until I found this page, but I managed to get down to 1:59.07 by using the trackguide and LOR setups. Try them! ===================================== THE NOUVEAU MONDE HAIRPIN Entrance speed: approximately 160 mph [258 kph] Speed through the left hander: approximately 100 mph [161 kph] Speed through the hairpin: approximately 25 mph Arrival time at the corner: 23.75 seconds Time to negotiate the corner: 9.76 seconds Exit time of the corner: 33.51 seconds The Nouveau Monde hairpin really starts with the left hander that preceeds it. These two turns are so close that a bad entrance or exit from the left hander will see you loosing control in the hairpin. Luckily, one of the best safety features of the 1967 year, the cement filled tyre barrier, is there to totally destroy your car if you do overdo it. The entrance to the left hander is quite easy. You just need to make sure that you don't wait too long to brake as you cannot use full brakes in this sequuence of turns as you will be turning throughout most of the braking zone. With the car in fourth gear, against the right side of the track, wait for the racing groove to darken. This happens just past the lone tree on the right. Brake hard for a moment and shift down two gears. Then ease off the brakes slightly as you add a little throttle. This is very important to prevent the rear end from stepping out and putting you into a slide. You should start to turn in at about the same time as you begin to reapply the throttle - i.e. a beat or so after getting into second gear. Turn in gently and aim for a late apex. This will line you up on the left side of the track in a good position for the hairpin. Another lone tree on the right side of the track acts as a good marker for when you should be finished slowing down. Once you arrive at this tree, you should be off the brakes, and trying to keep a constant speed with the throttle. With the car against the curb you will pass an evergree tree followed by another small tree on the right. This is a great reference point to begin your braking for the hairpin. Be very gently on the brakes here, as you are still turning. If you lock up a rear wheel, you will spin. Also don't be in a hurry to shift into first. if you do it at too high a speed, the sudden change in torque will upset the rear wheel, causing you to spin. By the time you are about half way down the Firestone sign on the left bank of the track is a good place to shift down to first. You should still be slowing down, and the challenge now is not to lock the fronts up. If you do you won't be able to turn in and you'll go straight on into those cement-filled-tyres. So keep braking gently. You should turn in when you are right on top of the turn. Apex right in the middle of the turn and keep braking, but to a slightly lesser extent than you have been, right up to the apex. Then immediately start to get back on the throttle. Gently at first or you'll spin the car. Then slowly unwind the wheel as you increase your acceleration. Once in a straight line get back to full throttle as quickly as you can, and shift up to second when you hit red line.

In article <2jfF6.5969$[email hidden]>, "Jim L" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>The entrance to the left hander is quite easy. You just need to make sure >that you don't wait too long to brake as you cannot use full brakes in this >sequuence of turns as you will be turning throughout most of the braking >zone. With the car in fourth gear, against the right side of the track, wait >for the racing groove to darken. This happens just past the lone tree on the >right. Brake hard for a moment and shift down two gears. Then ease off the >brakes slightly as you add a little throttle. This is very important to >prevent the rear end from stepping out and putting you into a slide. > >You should start to turn in at about the same time as you begin to reapply >the throttle - i.e. a beat or so after getting into second gear. Turn in >gently and aim for a late apex. This will line you up on the left side of >the track in a good position for the hairpin. Another lone tree on the right >side of the track acts as a good marker for when you should be finished >slowing down. Once you arrive at this tree, you should be off the brakes, >and trying to keep a constant speed with the throttle. > >With the car against the curb you will pass an evergree tree followed by >another small tree on the right. This is a great reference point to begin >your braking for the hairpin. Be very gently on the brakes here, as you are >still turning. If you lock up a rear wheel, you will spin. Also don't be in >a hurry to shift into first. if you do it at too high a speed, the sudden >change in torque will upset the rear wheel, causing you to spin. >

AGAIN with the trees as brake markers...<g> Man, I've *really* been losing because of having to run in lower detail. I've never noticed EITHER of those trees... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.