TSW and GPL...

Hi all..this is a question about settings. Due to the quality of these wheels steering and handling in GPL is affected by even the smallest of changes. Lately I have been playing all around with steering ratios and linearity (dead zones also).' How do you have your TSW set up within GPL? Linearity? Steering ratios? A dead zone tweak perhaps? Steering hack? Just my own informal poll while the daily tweaking in the sim garages roll on. Thanks... Dave C.

I used to use the steering hack, but I found I couldn't get through most hairpins...though it makes your starts a ton easier. I would try to get used to full linear steering...it gives you the quickest reaction when you are in trouble (dodging cars, catching spins). I use no deadzone tweaks with my wheel...I have found that GPL pretty much gets rid of the deadzone so I don't worry about it...and for steering ratios, depending on the track I generally run 15:1-17:1. Lower at tracks like the glen and mexico, higher at monza and the likes. BTW I have a TSW2 with paddle shifters and a momo large yoke wheel. Jesse Black "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zYTC6.1970$[email hidden]...

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> Hi all..this is a question about settings. Due to the quality of these > wheels steering and handling in GPL is affected by even the smallest of > changes. Lately I have been playing all around with steering ratios and > linearity (dead zones also).' > > How do you have your TSW set up within GPL? Linearity? Steering ratios? A > dead zone tweak perhaps? Steering hack? Just my own informal poll while

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> daily tweaking in the sim garages roll on. > > Thanks... > > Dave C. > >

"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zYTC6.1970$[email hidden]...

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> Hi all..this is a question about settings. Due to the quality of these > wheels steering and handling in GPL is affected by even the smallest of > changes. Lately I have been playing all around with steering ratios and > linearity (dead zones also).' > > How do you have your TSW set up within GPL? Linearity? Steering ratios? A > dead zone tweak perhaps? Steering hack? Just my own informal poll while

the > daily tweaking in the sim garages roll on. I have full linearity (ie. all the way to the left). It's quite sensitive on the straights, but that doesn't really matter - it helps in the corners, and that's where you need the control!

In article <987514549.8842@dionysos>, "Neil Raine" <[email hidden]> writes: >I have full linearity (ie. all the way to the left). > >It's quite sensitive on the straights, but that doesn't really matter - it >helps in the corners, and that's where you need the control! > So you end up swerving down the straights... I have mine about an inch from full linear, and I had to change the steering ratio just to keep it together on the straights. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I don't use any tweaks or the GPL steering hack. I've got my linearity almost full linear (about 1/4" from full) and usually run steering ratios around 14:1 to 16:1. Wayne Hutchison "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zYTC6.1970$[email hidden]...

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> Hi all..this is a question about settings. Due to the quality of these > wheels steering and handling in GPL is affected by even the smallest of > changes. Lately I have been playing all around with steering ratios and > linearity (dead zones also).' > > How do you have your TSW set up within GPL? Linearity? Steering ratios? A > dead zone tweak perhaps? Steering hack? Just my own informal poll while

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> daily tweaking in the sim garages roll on. > > Thanks... > > Dave C. > >

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <987514549.8842@dionysos>, "Neil Raine" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I have full linearity (ie. all the way to the left). > > > >It's quite sensitive on the straights, but that doesn't really matter -it > >helps in the corners, and that's where you need the control! > > > > So you end up swerving down the straights... I have mine about an inchfrom > full linear, and I had to change the steering ratio just to keep ittogether on > the straights. It's not that bad! The thing is that the TSW wheel is so smooth that it's possible to make tiny corrections without getting stiction, so it doesn't matter if the steering is very sensitive down the straight. It's a bit like using a joystick: you just have to "think" the car left or right a bit! ;-)

In article <987583259.29583@dionysos>, "Neil Raine" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> So you end up swerving down the straights... I have mine about an inch >from >> full linear, and I had to change the steering ratio just to keep it >together on >> the straights. > >It's not that bad! > >The thing is that the TSW wheel is so smooth that it's possible to make tiny >corrections without getting stiction, so it doesn't matter if the steering >is very sensitive down the straight. > >It's a bit like using a joystick: you just have to "think" the car left or >right a bit! ;-) >

For me, it IS that bad. I've downloaded many setups that have a steering ratio of 15:1, or even 14:1. I've found that I have to raise it to 18:1 or I can't go straight. I've never figured out how people can drive the lower ratio... :( In another discussion someone mentioned that even though my computer got 36fps, I could be driving slightly 'behind' the car because I was running a 400mhz. Well, I finally got a faster computer to work, but I haven't turned many laps in GPL yet. We'll see what happens this weekend. From my preliminary tests, I don't think the 1.2ghz will help, and THAT'S gonna piss me off... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well if it doesn't help your GPL times then you could just give it to me... But seriously, you should consider a new wheel as well as the new PC. If you're having trouble on the straights it could be a sign that that old wheel is getting near the end. I can drive the straights one-handed or even no-handed with my LWFF. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In another discussion someone mentioned that even though my computer got36fps, > I could be driving slightly 'behind' the car because I was running a400mhz. > Well, I finally got a faster computer to work, but I haven't turned manylaps > in GPL yet. We'll see what happens this weekend. From my preliminarytests, I > don't think the 1.2ghz will help, and THAT'S gonna piss me off... :(

Eldred wrote: > For me, it IS that bad. I've downloaded many setups that have a steeringratio > of 15:1, or even 14:1. I've found that I have to raise it to 18:1 or Ican't > go straight. I've never figured out how people can drive the lowerratio... :( > In another discussion someone mentioned that even though my computer got36fps, > I could be driving slightly 'behind' the car because I was running a400mhz. > Well, I finally got a faster computer to work, but I haven't turned manylaps > in GPL yet. We'll see what happens this weekend. From my preliminarytests, I > don't think the 1.2ghz will help, and THAT'S gonna piss me off... :( Are you using a TSW? Maybe there is a problem with the pots: if they have gone a bit ropey, and/or you don't have a very good game card, you could get twitching which would mess up the steering if it's very sensitive. You can easily check this by turning on the drivers arms within the cockpit.

In article <TyjD6.3902$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes: >Well if it doesn't help your GPL times then you could just give it to me... >Hehe...yeah, sure. :) >But seriously, you should consider a new wheel as well as the new PC. If >you're having trouble on the straights it could be a sign that that old >wheel is getting near the end. I can drive the straights one-handed or even >no-handed with my LWFF. > New wheel? I have a TSW2mod that's only about a year old. I really don't think I can blame the wheel... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <987716631.229571@dionysos>, "Neil Raine" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Eldred wrote: >> For me, it IS that bad. I've downloaded many setups that have a steering >ratio >> of 15:1, or even 14:1. I've found that I have to raise it to 18:1 or I >can't >> go straight. I've never figured out how people can drive the lower >ratio... :( >> In another discussion someone mentioned that even though my computer got >36fps, >> I could be driving slightly 'behind' the car because I was running a >400mhz. >> Well, I finally got a faster computer to work, but I haven't turned many >laps >> in GPL yet. We'll see what happens this weekend. From my preliminary >tests, I >> don't think the 1.2ghz will help, and THAT'S gonna piss me off... :( > >Are you using a TSW? > >Maybe there is a problem with the pots: if they have gone a bit ropey, >and/or you don't have a very good game card, you could get twitching which >would mess up the steering if it's very sensitive. > >You can easily check this by turning on the drivers arms within the cockpit.

Yes, I have a TSW. The twitchiness has been around for a long time. Even when the pots were ROCK solid, I still couldn't drive a 15:1 ratio car... I think I *do* need to clean/replace the steering pot, though. I'm just not looking to tearing the thing apart... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.