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28 posts by 15 people · 20 Apr 2001 19:15 UTC - 22 Apr 2001 17:46 UTC

UK, England and Great Britain naming banter

A spin-off from the member-locations thread, starting with a Bromley poster explaining that the UK, England and Great Britain are not the same thing. Canadians, Americans and Irish posters joined in light-hearted debate over country names, including America versus USA versus North America and the official name of Ireland.

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(unknown) 20 Apr 2001 19:15 UTC#189963
I'm in the good old UK here. England to be precise. Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that matter) are *NOT* the same! The lovely County of Kent, otherwise known as the Garden of England. In a little place called Bromley, which is on the London and Kent border Kent is in the South East corner of the UK, and is one the Home Counties, eg: those that border the Capital. I'm about 15 minutes away from the Brands Hatch race circuit. 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you decide on just one? <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bq1t5$4au$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> I'm in the good old UK here. > > England to be precise. > > Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that > matter) are *NOT* the same! > > The lovely County of Kent, otherwise known as the Garden of England. > > In a little place called Bromley, which is on the London and Kent border > Kent is in the South East corner of the UK, and is one the Home > Counties, eg: those that border the Capital. > > I'm about 15 minutes away from the Brands Hatch race circuit. > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
He,s got a point Peter Bob "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k00E6.2486$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (25 lines)> Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you > decide on just one? > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9bq1t5$4au$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the good old UK here. > > > > England to be precise. > > > > Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that > > matter) are *NOT* the same! > > > > The lovely County of Kent, otherwise known as the Garden of England. > > > > In a little place called Bromley, which is on the London and Kent border > > Kent is in the South East corner of the UK, and is one the Home > > Counties, eg: those that border the Capital. > > > > I'm about 15 minutes away from the Brands Hatch race circuit. > > > > 8-) > > > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html > >
Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us (Canada) to take back what was once theirs! "R A Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eN8X91dyAHA.353@cpmsnbbsa07...
Quoted text (7 lines)> He,s got a point Peter > > Bob > > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:k00E6.2486$[email hidden]... > > Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't
you
Quoted text (10 lines)> > decide on just one? > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9bq1t5$4au$[email hidden]... > > > I'm in the good old UK here. > > > > > > England to be precise. > > > > > > Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that > > > matter) are *NOT* the same!
Rob Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k00E6.2486$[email hidden]... > Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you > decide on just one? Ooh, don't say that to a Scotsman - or a Welshman, for that matter. As for the Irish... ;-) Jonny
> > > I'm in the good old UK here. > > > > > > England to be precise. > > > > > > Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that > > > matter) are *NOT* the same! OK oK good joke right? Next you'll be telling us that England and France and Germany are different too...Well we Yanks are on to you...Yer all furen-ors...just some have different accents is all.. dave henrie
It's alright, you've got ymenard, we got the best deal <G> -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Rob Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Kf2E6.2662$[email hidden]... > Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) > > So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us (Canada) > to take back what was once theirs! >
But we are all keeping a "watchful eye" on you Rob A!! So be careful!! <g> "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Kf2E6.2662$[email hidden]... | Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) | | So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us (Canada) | to take back what was once theirs!<snipped>
>Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you >decide on just one? There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash
raja 21 Apr 2001 14:56 UTC↳ reply to Thom j.#189787
Cool, I live in that wonderful place called Bromley as well!!! Have you come across the rapping flower salesman in the towncentre? "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4IaE6.19908$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> But we are all keeping a "watchful eye" on you Rob A!! So be careful!! <g> > > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Kf2E6.2662$[email hidden]... > | Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) > | > | So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us
(Canada) > | to take back what was once theirs! > <snipped> > >
Graeme your my main man but 'North America' covers more then USA. Gee do you want the Canadians angry with us yanks Graeme? We dont want to go thru anymore 1776zz. So as far as I know USA is still USA. Ok Kiddiezz let the flames begin!! hahahaha Cheers Thom_j. "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)| | >Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you | >decide on just one? | | There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-) | | -- | Cheers! | Graeme Nash
"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote ...
Quoted text (10 lines)> Graeme your my main man but 'North America' covers more then USA. > Gee do you want the Canadians angry with us yanks Graeme? We dont > want to go thru anymore 1776zz. So as far as I know USA is still USA. > Ok Kiddiezz let the flames begin!! hahahaha > Cheers Thom_j. > > "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | > | >Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't
you
Quoted text (7 lines)> | >decide on just one? > | > | There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-) > | > | -- > | Cheers! > | Graeme Nash
I thought there were at least three - America, USA, The States. Pip pip, old boy! Tony Whitley
>Graeme your my main man but 'North America' covers more then USA. That was my point :-) "UK" Covers more than England so in reality we're in the same boat and original point was a bit wrong :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash
m.seery 21 Apr 2001 21:14 UTC↳ reply to Ian P#189672
ROTFLOL. Now that's just plain nasty...tut tut :-) MS Ian P <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bqlf6$9a6$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> It's alright, you've got ymenard, we got the best deal <G> > > -- > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > Rob Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Kf2E6.2662$[email hidden]... > > Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) > > > > So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us
(Canada) > > to take back what was once theirs! > > > >
Hmmm. Never met a Yank yet who did not claim to be Irish, Italian, Hispanic etc etc :-) MS
Quoted text (8 lines)> OK oK good joke right? Next you'll be telling us that England and > France and > Germany are different too...Well we Yanks are on to you...Yer all > furen-ors...just some > have different accents is all.. > dave henrie > >
> Ooh, don't say that to a Scotsman - or a Welshman, for that matter. Asfor > the Irish... ;-) Yeah. Give us back those bloody 6 counties you owe us :-) Typically Irish of course is the fact that the most northerly point of the island is actually in Eire and not Northern Ireland. MS > > Jonny > >
it's cos we (the English) are more then just a state bolted in to the name of a country... choosing to use the country when we describe where we come from...what sort of people do that? special relationship...my arse Rob Adams wrote:
Quoted text (23 lines)> Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you > decide on just one? > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9bq1t5$4au$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the good old UK here. > > > > England to be precise. > > > > Americans please note: The UK and England (and Great Britain for that > > matter) are *NOT* the same! > > > > The lovely County of Kent, otherwise known as the Garden of England. > > > > In a little place called Bromley, which is on the London and Kent border > > Kent is in the South East corner of the UK, and is one the Home > > Counties, eg: those that border the Capital. > > > > I'm about 15 minutes away from the Brands Hatch race circuit. > > > > 8-) > > > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
According to one source, ymenard isn't really Canadian, he just pretends to be. "Francois", c'est vrai? "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C9oE6.2204$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (26 lines)> ROTFLOL. > > Now that's just plain nasty...tut tut :-) > > MS > Ian P <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9bqlf6$9a6$[email hidden]... > > It's alright, you've got ymenard, we got the best deal <G> > > > > -- > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > > > > Rob Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Kf2E6.2662$[email hidden]... > > > Whew! I thought I might get flamed big-time over that one ;) > > > > > > So far no sign of a pissed-off Britain (UK? England?) invading us > (Canada) > > > to take back what was once theirs! > > > > > > > > >
I hate to be pedantic, but the official name of the country is not Eire, but Poblacht na hEireann (Republic of Ireland). Don't ask me why Eire appears on our stamps - maybe because the official name would not fit on a stamp. From an R.A.S.er in Sacramento, California, U.S.A. originally from Dublin, Republic of Ireland. Anyhow, you can plonk me for being a pretentious bollocks!! Aibhne "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C9oE6.2206$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> > > Ooh, don't say that to a Scotsman - or a Welshman, for that matter. As > for > > the Irish... ;-) > > Yeah. Give us back those bloody 6 counties you owe us :-) > > Typically Irish of course is the fact that the most northerly point of the > island is actually in Eire and not Northern Ireland. > > MS > > > > Jonny > > > > > >
(unknown) 22 Apr 2001 12:07 UTC↳ reply to raja#189539
In article <9bs717$nnt$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Raja) wrote: > Cool, I live in that wonderful place called Bromley as well!!! Have > you > come across the rapping flower salesman in the towncentre? I know there is usually a flower seller near the alleyway that leads to Argos, that you? I don't go into the town center much though. There are a couple of other sim racers in and around Bromley too.... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
In article <k00E6.2486$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Rob Adams) wrote: > Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't > you decide on just one? My country only has one name = England Whereas GB and UK are a collection of countries.... GB (Great Britain) = The largest island in Europe, comprising England Scotland and Wales. UK (United Kingdom) = A kingdom of NW Europe, consisting of Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. Whereas, America has possibly three names? 1) America 2) USA 3) North America Over to you I think....... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
North America is the continent. USA is the country. On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:32:00 +0100, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't you >>decide on just one? > >There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-)
I remember, years ago while in Germany, making the mistake of telling a German friend of mine that English and American were "the same"... hehehe, it didn't long to correct me! On 22 Apr 2001 12:07:49 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (27 lines)>In article <k00E6.2486$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (Rob Adams) wrote: > >> Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't >> you decide on just one? > >My country only has one name = England > >Whereas GB and UK are a collection of countries.... > >GB (Great Britain) = The largest island in Europe, comprising England >Scotland and Wales. > >UK (United Kingdom) = A kingdom of NW Europe, consisting of Great >Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. > >Whereas, America has possibly three names? > >1) America >2) USA >3) North America > >Over to you I think....... > >8-) > >*Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
On 22 Apr 2001 12:07:49 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >Whereas, America has possibly three names? > >1) America >2) USA >3) North America - this one doesn't apply to just the U.S. - it's Canada, U.S. and Mexico) 4) the states
Thank you, that's the clearest explanation I've ever seen! Where I come from (Canada) "America" has the following names (only counting the polite ones <g>): 1. America 2. (the) USA 3. (the) US 4. The States Note that "North America" is NOT the same as "America'. North America is a continent comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico, while America is a country. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9buhil$39r$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (27 lines)> In article <k00E6.2486$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Rob Adams) wrote: > > > Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't > > you decide on just one? > > My country only has one name = England > > Whereas GB and UK are a collection of countries.... > > GB (Great Britain) = The largest island in Europe, comprising England > Scotland and Wales. > > UK (United Kingdom) = A kingdom of NW Europe, consisting of Great > Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. > > Whereas, America has possibly three names? > > 1) America > 2) USA > 3) North America > > Over to you I think....... > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
Thank you George!! This has been stated here before.... Not that it really matters but as George states: "North America is the continent" USA=United States of America & America is kinda a nickname for USA aka America. Get it kidds? Cheers T.j. "George Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)| North America is the continent. USA is the country. | | | On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:32:00 +0100, Graeme Nash | <[email hidden]> wrote: | | > | >>Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't
you | >>decide on just one? | > | >There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-) |
Yes Rob you are basically correct and I always feel bad that our good neighbors to the north seem to just become forgotten when North America is "tagged" to only USA... Not to split hairs but I will, we only have one 'official name' USA [Our abbreviation for United States of America]..... <g> Cheers Thom_j. "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:T9DE6.8075$[email hidden]... | Thank you, that's the clearest explanation I've ever seen! | | Where I come from (Canada) "America" has the following names (onlycounting
Quoted text (42 lines)| the polite ones <g>): | | 1. America | 2. (the) USA | 3. (the) US | 4. The States | | Note that "North America" is NOT the same as "America'. North America is a | continent comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico, while America is a | country. | | <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:9buhil$39r$[email hidden]... | > In article <k00E6.2486$[email hidden]>, | > [email hidden] (Rob Adams) wrote: | > | > > Don't you get tired of having a country with so many names? Why can't | > > you decide on just one? | > | > My country only has one name = England | > | > Whereas GB and UK are a collection of countries.... | > | > GB (Great Britain) = The largest island in Europe, comprising England | > Scotland and Wales. | > | > UK (United Kingdom) = A kingdom of NW Europe, consisting of Great | > Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. | > | > Whereas, America has possibly three names? | > | > 1) America | > 2) USA | > 3) North America | > | > Over to you I think....... | > | > 8-) | > | > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html | |
>>There's only 2... like "The USA" and "North America"? :-) >North America is the continent. USA is the country. My point exactly... UK is the collective term for a group of nations. England is the (my) country. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

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