F1 Racing Championship is it any good?

F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples thoughts. Thanks Willis

very good, much better than GP3 "Mick Willis" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]...

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> F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > thoughts. > > > Thanks > Willis > >

If you love sim racing, do not buy it. -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Mick Willis <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]... > F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > thoughts. > > > Thanks > Willis > >

In depth comment there! Ignore that, F1RC is the best of modern sims at the moment - no doubt at all about that,,,, and the upcoming patch should solve the quirky (at times) AI. Iain "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XK1E6.4167$[email hidden]... > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. >

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:20:55 GMT, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >If you love sim racing, do not buy it. I will give anyone a copy of GP3 and F12K for F1RC. Can't buy F1RC here in Canada yet.

The only thing that sucks more than F1RC, is Ubisoft, who produce it Mick Willis <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]...

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> F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > thoughts. > > > Thanks > Willis > > >

Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:li3E6.3053$[email hidden]... > In depth comment there! > Ignore that, F1RC is the best of modern sims at the moment - no doubt atall > about that,,,, and the upcoming patch should solve the quirky (at times)AI. > Iain Iain, you obviously dont have very high standards. The physics suck. How does a locked wheel have the ability to change the direction of the car?? Maybe you are impressed by their graphics, but as a sim, it sucks BIGTIME!!!

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> > "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XK1E6.4167$[email hidden]... > > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > > > > >

I'll agree with Iain on that one, overall it's far better than any other modern F1 sim available, except for the AI. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:li3E6.3053$[email hidden]... > In depth comment there! > Ignore that, F1RC is the best of modern sims at the moment - no doubt at all > about that,,,, and the upcoming patch should solve the quirky (at times) AI. > Iain > > "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XK1E6.4167$[email hidden]... > > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > > > >

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> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:20:55 GMT, "Colin Harris" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > I will give anyone a copy of GP3 and F12K for F1RC. > Can't buy F1RC here in Canada yet.

You'll be the loser. Bigtime >

Colin Harris wrote: > > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. Damn, why did you tell me! Now I have to uninstall that game, as I love sim racing...wait, I can just imagine, it's the best F1, eeh, best modern F1 sim available and keep playing it. Ignorance is bliss... ;) <my favorite movie quote> -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Somebody has an axe to grind. Waaaaaahhhhhh!! "Aviator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3Q4E6.2324$[email hidden]...

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> The only thing that sucks more than F1RC, is Ubisoft, who produce it > > Mick Willis <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]... > > F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > > thoughts. > > > > > > Thanks > > Willis > > > > > > > >

Hey, it's a good game, quite a reasonable sim, but by buying it you support their policies. Therefore, if you like sim racing (not just F1 Racing) don't buy it. Simple enough? -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Colin Harris wrote: > > > > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > Damn, why did you tell me! Now I have to uninstall that > game, as I love sim racing...wait, I can just imagine, > it's the best F1, eeh, best modern F1 sim available and > keep playing it. > > Ignorance is bliss... ;) > <my favorite movie quote> > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

What are their policies? "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k06E6.5180$[email hidden]... > Hey, it's a good game, quite a reasonable sim, but by buying it yousupport > their policies. Therefore, if you like sim racing (not just F1 Racing)don't

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> buy it. Simple enough? > > -- > > > Colin > ICQ 25485061 > Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Colin Harris wrote: > > > > > > If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > > > Damn, why did you tell me! Now I have to uninstall that > > game, as I love sim racing...wait, I can just imagine, > > it's the best F1, eeh, best modern F1 sim available and > > keep playing it. > > > > Ignorance is bliss... ;) > > <my favorite movie quote> > > > > -- > > l8er > > ronny > > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > > to take effect. Reboot now? > > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off! > >

On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:55:01 GMT, "Aviator" <[email hidden]> wrote: >You'll be the loser. Bigtime > I'll takes me chances, matey.

Ohhh..... I'm not so sure about that... Nascar 4 get my vote! ed_ Iain Mackenzie wrote:... > In depth comment there! > Ignore that, F1RC is the best of modern sims at the moment - no doubt atall > about that,,,, and the upcoming patch should solve the quirky (at times)AI. > Iain >

Yep me too, This game is superb with a patch to knock the rough edges of the AI off it will be a classic Regards Mike On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:29:56 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I would have said exactly the opposite, I have GP3, F1 2000 and F1CS. They >have all hit the recycle bin since F1RC was installed.

I would have said exactly the opposite, I have GP3, F1 2000 and F1CS. They have all hit the recycle bin since F1RC was installed. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Aviator <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FT4E6.2333$[email hidden]... > > Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:20:55 GMT, "Colin Harris" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >If you love sim racing, do not buy it. > > > > I will give anyone a copy of GP3 and F12K for F1RC. > > Can't buy F1RC here in Canada yet. > > You'll be the loser. Bigtime > > > > >

On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:29:23 +0100, Mike Blackmore <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yep me too, This game is superb with a patch to knock the rough edges >of the AI off it will be a classic > And there's the rub. Being able to accomplish this remains to be seen. Poor AI is a hard thing to fix.

"Mick Willis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]...

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> F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > thoughts. > > > Thanks > Willis >

Not the question to ask, as everyone has differing opinions about F1RC. GP3ers hate it. F12k2000ers say it's worse than captivity. GPLers, not surprisingly, would rather eat bark off a tree than even consider looking at the box that F1RC came in. It might be best to ask specific questions about what you like in an F1-type racing game and then maybe you'd get some decent answers. But just asking flat out whether F1RC is any good won't work. Ask a Democrat and a Republican whether George W. has done well in his first 100 days-- those are the kind of biased responses you'll get when asking whether F1RC is any good. Alanb

As a GPL'er, a GP3'er and occasional F12k'er who likes F1RC I'd like to point out that 87% of statistics are made up on the spot :) I'm a fairly serious GPLer by the way, with a GPLRank of - 44.92 -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yojE6.32313$[email hidden]... > > "Mick Willis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]... > > F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > > thoughts. > > > > > > Thanks > > Willis > > > Not the question to ask, as everyone has differing opinions about F1RC. > GP3ers hate it. F12k2000ers say it's worse than captivity. GPLers, not > surprisingly, would rather eat bark off a tree than even consider looking at > the box that F1RC came in. > > It might be best to ask specific questions about what you like in an F1-type > racing game and then maybe you'd get some decent answers. > > But just asking flat out whether F1RC is any good won't work. Ask a > Democrat and a Republican whether George W. has done well in his first 100 > days-- those are the kind of biased responses you'll get when asking whether > F1RC is any good. > > Alanb > >

Colin Harris wrote: > > Hey, it's a good game, quite a reasonable sim, but by buying it you support > their policies. Therefore, if you like sim racing (not just F1 Racing) don't > buy it. Simple enough? Not really. I just heard about their reaction to user mods yesterday and sent off an email to UbiSoft Germany about stopping to buy ANY of their games in the future, IF they actually disallow any user mods for their sims. OTOH, I already bought F1RC, and I still like it... -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Aviator wrote: > > The only thing that sucks more than F1RC, is Ubisoft, who produce it Maybe you should stick with flight sims, Mr. Aviator? ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Alan Bernardo wrote: > snip > > > Not the question to ask, as everyone has differing opinions about F1RC. > GP3ers hate it. F12k2000ers say it's worse than captivity. GPLers, not > surprisingly, would rather eat bark off a tree than even consider looking at > the box that F1RC came in. I'm a GP3er and GPLer but no F12ker (have to be able to recognize the tracks ;) and I just don't see the need to LOVE one sim and HATE the others, esp. if they are NO competition at all, e.g. GPL and F1RC, if you like modern and historic F1. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Fair play, Ronny....have you heard back from them yet? Was wondering what they said... -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Colin Harris wrote: > > OTOH, I already bought F1RC, and I still like it... > > -- > l8er > ronny

>"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote > GPLers, not > surprisingly, would rather eat bark off a tree than even consider lookingat > the box that F1RC came in. Well I'm a GPLer (and a N4er), but I admire F1RC for the entertaining hotlapping it gives me. Everything else isn't very satisfying. The worse situation would be to try a forced cockpit multiplayer race with some AI. OUCH the nightmare ;) > But just asking flat out whether F1RC is any good won't work. Ask a > Democrat and a Republican whether George W. has done well in his first 100 > days-- those are the kind of biased responses you'll get when askingwhether > F1RC is any good. Good analogy, but GPLers are democrats or republicans? :-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Colin Harris wrote: > > Fair play, Ronny....have you heard back from them yet? Was wondering what > they said... No, it's the weekend, but I actually don't expect an answer. Most email addresses found on company websites seem to be redirected to /dev/null (trash can), at least that's my experience... ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

In article <Oy0E6.3984$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Mick Willis) wrote: > F1 Racing Championship is it any good? Would be grateful for peoples > thoughts. It pretty good, but not sure if its the best though? The physics are generally pretty good, but are not deadly accurate in every area (car acceleration/braking and turning with locked wheels!) The AI are also not the best in the World, but there is supposed to be a patch that may fix that. It is supposed to be a sim, but sometimes feels more like an arcade game? Although, overall I do like it, and it is a very good attempt at a modern F1 sim. I have GP3 also, (amongst many other games/sims) and I think that GP3, although not the great leap forward we were all expecting, is still probably the best overall modern F1 sim. 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

> It is supposed to be a sim, but sometimes feels more like an arcade > game? What on earth makes you think that? I would be VERYinterested to know. Iain

In article <yojE6.32313$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Alan Bernardo) wrote: > GPLers, not > surprisingly, would rather eat bark off a tree than even consider > looking at > the box that F1RC came in. Erm? bit of a generisation there I think! I have owned GPL since the day the first demo came out on the net, and I also own F1RC, and I like both of them. But they are different programs portraying different era's. GPL still (IMHO) has the best physics engine out there. F1RC is a great modern F1 sim, not sure if its the *best* modern F1 sim though? BTW, I also happen to own pretty much all the other major car racing sims (and arcade games) as well! 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

> Not really. I just heard about their reaction to user mods yesterday > and > sent off an email to UbiSoft Germany about stopping to buy ANY of > their > games in the future, IF they actually disallow any user mods for > their sims. What e-mail address did you use? We (RAS) should *ALL* send a similar e-mail, I know its only a token, but it may help them to change their mind? 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

I'll take this on... I've spent quite a bit of time with the demo. Most of this time has been spent playing with the various deadzone settings as well as the sensitivity. If I had to pick one thing that bugs me most it has to be the feel of acceleration and braking. Though I am able to improve it somewhat by tweaking the controller settings, I can't get away from 'binary' feeling that comes from the controls. There isn't enough feeling of gradually increasing acceleration and braking. You're full acceleration or braking. Its just too binary, thats the only way I can describe it. I have tried setting the various axis to Linear, Log, and Exponential. Nothing brings this sim to the level of control like F1CS2k or GP3. Also, try this: Come to a dead stop on the track. Engage first gear. Start accelerating. I can rev the engine to 10000 RPM and still not move forward. No brakes applied. At around 11000 or 12000, something suddenly kicks in gear and you lurch forward. At first I thought it was simulating a burnout and that I had reved the engine to 10000 to fast. So I repeated the steps, gradually increasing the revs to 10000 to avoid spinning the tires. No difference. My next complaint is with the graphics. Not the eye candy which is great, but the sensation of speed. IMO, there just isn't enough of a difference in the sense of speed visually between 100 MPH and 120 MPH, for instance. Again this points to a binary feel to the sim. This time it shows up visually. Once again, F1CS2K is superior. There are a great many very respectable sim racers who have voiced strong support for this sim, some going as far as proclaiming it as the best modern F1 sim to date. There are some positive aspects (eye candy, track accuracy, etc.) but overall I'd say that F1CS2000 is a much better sim. "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:82EE6.5495$[email hidden]...

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> > It is supposed to be a sim, but sometimes feels more like an arcade > > game? > > What on earth makes you think that? I would be VERYinterested to know. > Iain > >

Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'll take this on... > > I've spent quite a bit of time with the demo. Most of this time has been > spent playing with the various deadzone settings as well as thesensitivity. > If I had to pick one thing that bugs me most it has to be the feel of > acceleration and braking. > Though I am able to improve it somewhat by tweaking the controllersettings, > I can't get away from 'binary' feeling that comes from the controls. There > isn't enough feeling of gradually increasing acceleration and braking. > You're full acceleration or braking. Its just too binary, thats the onlyway > I can describe it. The demo is different, I don't get these problems with the release version. > I have tried setting the various axis to Linear, Log, and Exponential. > Nothing brings this sim to the level of control like F1CS2k or GP3. I find the feel is better with F1RC than either F1CS2k or GP3. F1CS2k actually takes far too long for the engine to spin up to speed. > Also, try this: Come to a dead stop on the track. Engage first gear. Start > accelerating. I can rev the engine to 10000 RPM and still not moveforward. > No brakes applied. At around 11000 or 12000, something suddenly kicks in > gear and you lurch forward. Turn off the automatic clutch. > > At first I thought it was simulating a burnout and that I had reved the > engine to 10000 to fast. So I repeated the steps, gradually increasing the > revs to 10000 to avoid spinning the tires. > > No difference. It's an automatic clutch. > > My next complaint is with the graphics. Not the eye candy which is great, > but the sensation of speed. IMO, there just isn't enough of a differencein > the sense of speed visually between 100 MPH and 120 MPH, for instance.Again > this points to a binary feel to the sim. This time it shows up visually. > Once again, F1CS2K is superior. I find it easier to judge speed in F1RC than F1CS. As for a binary feeling, I would say that the problem is, F1CS is far too slow in it's responses. > > There are a great many very respectable sim racers who have voiced strong > support for this sim, some going as far as proclaiming it as the bestmodern > F1 sim to date. > > There are some positive aspects (eye candy, track accuracy, etc.) but > overall I'd say that F1CS2000 is a much better sim. I would strongly disagree. For an overall F1 experience, I find F1RC is head and shoulders above F1CS. As I've explained elsewhere in this NG, I find that F1CS just doesn't make me feel it's simulating F1 racing cars.

> I've spent quite a bit of time with the demo. Most of this time has been > spent playing with the various deadzone settings as well as thesensitivity. > If I had to pick one thing that bugs me most it has to be the feel of > acceleration and braking. > Though I am able to improve it somewhat by tweaking the controllersettings, > I can't get away from 'binary' feeling that comes from the controls. There > isn't enough feeling of gradually increasing acceleration and braking. > You're full acceleration or braking. Its just too binary, thats the onlyway > I can describe it. >There is none of that in the full release. > I have tried setting the various axis to Linear, Log, and Exponential. > Nothing brings this sim to the level of control like F1CS2k or GP3. >On the contrary, due to F1CS's lack of response, you have to floor it to get the car moving after any corner. > Also, try this: Come to a dead stop on the track. Engage first gear. Start > accelerating. I can rev the engine to 10000 RPM and still not moveforward.

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> No brakes applied. At around 11000 or 12000, something suddenly kicks in > gear and you lurch forward. > > At first I thought it was simulating a burnout and that I had reved the > engine to 10000 to fast. So I repeated the steps, gradually increasing the > revs to 10000 to avoid spinning the tires. >

Something wrong here. Are you using the automatic clutch? Try this in F1CS - just after the start or into the first corner on any track, try braking to a stop. How many AI cars crash into you? None, most likely - not very realistic! > My next complaint is with the graphics. Not the eye candy which is great, > but the sensation of speed. IMO, there just isn't enough of a differencein > the sense of speed visually between 100 MPH and 120 MPH, for instance.Again > this points to a binary feel to the sim. This time it shows up visually. > Once again, F1CS2K is superior. >Cannot agree, the sensation of speed in F1RC cf. F1CS is very noticable. F1CS seems to really drag along. > There are a great many very respectable sim racers who have voiced strong > support for this sim, some going as far as proclaiming it as the bestmodern > F1 sim to date. >Myself included! F1CS was by a long way my favourite modern F1 sim until F1RC came along. I defended it (and F12K) in this group many times, but I'm afraid compared to F1RC it just doesn't hack it any more. The response of the car in F1CS is very slow, and it just doesn't feel right any more - it is too forgiving in the way the car handles and in its approach to kerbs. There is no real differential in the kerbs in F1CS - they just seem flat. Look at Imola for example, it is essential on that track to use the right amount of kerb in the right places, but in F1CS the kerbs all react the same. Each to his own I guess! Iain

In article <82EE6.5495$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Iain Mackenzie) wrote: > > It is supposed to be a sim, but sometimes feels more like an arcade > > game? > > What on earth makes you think that? I would be VERYinterested to > know. > Iain Iain, I thought about this, and cannot put my finger on it exactly. But, it definitely *felt* like an arcade game when I fisrt jumped into the car and did my first few lap. Maybe it was the default car set-ups, but it just didn't *feel* right? I have to point out that I only bought F1RC about 10 days ago and have only driven it for about a couple of hours, so I am still reserving judgement on it, as I'm still only at the very earliest stages of getting to know it, IYSWIM? Although, having said that I feel I am an experienced sim racer (please read that as *experienced* and not as *fast*!) As I've owned pretty much all the major sim racers since my first one on a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, which was "Chequered Flag". It usually takes me a few hours, maybe even a couple of days worth od driving to tell whether I like a sim or not, and I'm not at that point yet with F1RC, as I need to put in more time driving it. Trouble is I don't have the spare time any more, as any spare time I do have I tend to use on GPL, GP3, Superbike 2001 & Rally Masters, which are my current favourites. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying F1RC is a bad sim, it is very good as far as I can tell so far, but the handling did leave something to be desired in the *feel* department, just not sure what! Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but all these opinions of sims/games are subjective anway...... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

> Although, having said that I feel I am an experienced sim racer > (please read that as *experienced* and not as *fast*!) As I've owned > pretty much all the major sim racers since my first one on a Sinclair ZX > Spectrum 48k, which was "Chequered Flag". > 'Chequered Flag' - now you are talking! What a classic! ahhh..... the good old days, eh? That was on tape wasn't it - pre-floppy days? Iain

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> > > Not really. I just heard about their reaction to user mods yesterday > > and > > sent off an email to UbiSoft Germany about stopping to buy ANY of > > their > > games in the future, IF they actually disallow any user mods for > > their sims. > > What e-mail address did you use? > > We (RAS) should *ALL* send a similar e-mail, I know its only a token, > but it may help them to change their mind?

I used the one found at www.ubisoft.de, maybe you should look for one at http://www.ubisoft.co.uk/ (unless you speak German, of course ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Hell, I e-mailed them for tech support to try to get F1RC to even run at all..."the rest is silence." Damned if I'll get a Ubisoft product again! J. P. Hovercraft Ronald Stoehr wrote:

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> [email hidden] wrote: > > > > > Not really. I just heard about their reaction to user mods yesterday > > > and > > > sent off an email to UbiSoft Germany about stopping to buy ANY of > > > their > > > games in the future, IF they actually disallow any user mods for > > > their sims. > > > > What e-mail address did you use? > > > > We (RAS) should *ALL* send a similar e-mail, I know its only a token, > > but it may help them to change their mind? > > I used the one found at www.ubisoft.de, maybe you should look for one > at http://www.ubisoft.co.uk/ (unless you speak German, of course ;) > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!